Cheap Antenna For Beginning AMSAT Work
I am just getting interested in Satellite work and I don't really have any money at all for antennas.
What is the easiest/chepest way to get into this part of the hobby as far as an antenna goes?
I have a Wouxun UV8D for a HT radio that I will use so I only plan to do FM work at the moment.
Thanks and 73
David N4DCT
'Cheap' is kind of relative... Do you have a dollar cap?
If you want to buy, for < $150 get an Arrow and assorted goodies:
http://www.arrowantennas.com/arrowii/146-437.html
Roughly the same Price for an Elk Log periodic, if you're into that sort of style:
https://elkantennas.com/product/dual-band-2m440l5-log-periodic-antenna/
If you want to build, cheap Yagi for AMSAT:
http://www.wa5vjb.com/references/Cheap%20Antennas-LEOs.pdf
Or the original WA5JVB designs have some AMSAT models too:
http://www.wa5vjb.com/yagi-pdf/cheapyagi.pdf
I can't really in good conscience recommend anything else. Any option listed will suit you well.
-Dave, KG5CCI
On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 2:43 PM, David Taylor davidtaylorjr1985@gmail.com wrote:
I am just getting interested in Satellite work and I don't really have any money at all for antennas.
What is the easiest/chepest way to get into this part of the hobby as far as an antenna goes?
I have a Wouxun UV8D for a HT radio that I will use so I only plan to do FM work at the moment.
Thanks and 73
David N4DCT _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Have you checked out WA5VJB's cheap yagi antenna designs for AMSAT? If you have a soldering iron, you can get some 1/8" brass or bronze 36" brazing rods for the driven element and/or directors at a local welding shop for like $20 for 10 of them. The 3/4" square dowel is also a couple of dollars for 3'. I actually cut all of the elements for a 6 element 435 MHz yagi earlier today to test out a filter and LNA and I already have two identical 2 meter 3 element yagis made out of the same stuff for some phasing experiments (eventually) with the dual receiver on the LimeSDR. Best regards, Jordan KF5COQ
On Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 15:27 David Taylor davidtaylorjr1985@gmail.com wrote:
I am just getting interested in Satellite work and I don't really have any money at all for antennas.
What is the easiest/chepest way to get into this part of the hobby as far as an antenna goes?
I have a Wouxun UV8D for a HT radio that I will use so I only plan to do FM work at the moment.
Thanks and 73
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Go to wa5vjb.com. Look for downloads then cheap yagis. Kent's designs are easy to build and work just fine. He even has a duplexer to use a single dual band ht on satellites.
Ed Krome K9EK
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On Oct 22, 2017, at 3:43 PM, David Taylor davidtaylorjr1985@gmail.com wrote:
I am just getting interested in Satellite work and I don't really have any money at all for antennas.
What is the easiest/chepest way to get into this part of the hobby as far as an antenna goes?
I have a Wouxun UV8D for a HT radio that I will use so I only plan to do FM work at the moment.
Thanks and 73
David N4DCT _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
The Arrow with the integrated diplexer is your best bet if you only have a single HT radio.
You can build a simple 3 element 2M and 5 element 70cm antenna for almost nothing. Google the term "tape measure antenna" and you'll find plans to build an antenna using a metal flexible tape measure.
You can use wood or PVC pipe for the boom. I've seen one of these work nicely with the SO-50 FM satellite.
I would recommend buying a second HT radio so you can operate full duplex and hear your voice on the downlink.
The 2nd radio is more important than buying a commercial made antenna.
I worked SO-50 with a long wipp antenna on a 5W HT. It doesn't take much when the satellite is directly overhead.
Good luck.
73 - Paul - W2HRO
On Oct 22, 2017 16:29, "David Taylor" davidtaylorjr1985@gmail.com wrote:
I am just getting interested in Satellite work and I don't really have any money at all for antennas.
What is the easiest/chepest way to get into this part of the hobby as far as an antenna goes?
I have a Wouxun UV8D for a HT radio that I will use so I only plan to do FM work at the moment.
Thanks and 73
David N4DCT _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
having tried all of these different antennas, if you are willing to go commercial I’d get an Arrow with handle duplexer, or an Elk. The arrow has better reception on 70cm, but the Elk doesn’t need a duplexer. That’s up to you to decide which is more important for your operating style!
If you intend to use 2 radios for full duplex (recommended), then the arrow with no duplexer will work fine. Be aware that using a second baofeng as a receiver for SO50 will not give you a good experience. The receiver on the baofengs tend to overload when you are transmitting on 2m on another rig. An FT-60R or similar as a receiver won’t have this problem.
Alternatively, if you’re handy the cheap yagis (diy) that others mentioned work well, similar to the arrow. I’d steer away from a tape measure yagi or whip. These are very frustrating to use, especially if you haven’t done much sat wrk before. They do not have good reception, especially on SO50.
I have made a few hundred sat QSOs with an Elk and kenwood TH-D72, and a couple thousand using an Arrow and various radios...hopefully all that time and money I spent will help you make your decision! ;-)
73,
- Matthew nj4y
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On Oct 22, 2017, at 16:55, Paul Andrews w2hro.fn20@gmail.com wrote:
The Arrow with the integrated diplexer is your best bet if you only have a single HT radio.
You can build a simple 3 element 2M and 5 element 70cm antenna for almost nothing. Google the term "tape measure antenna" and you'll find plans to build an antenna using a metal flexible tape measure.
You can use wood or PVC pipe for the boom. I've seen one of these work nicely with the SO-50 FM satellite.
I would recommend buying a second HT radio so you can operate full duplex and hear your voice on the downlink.
The 2nd radio is more important than buying a commercial made antenna.
I worked SO-50 with a long wipp antenna on a 5W HT. It doesn't take much when the satellite is directly overhead.
Good luck.
73 - Paul - W2HRO
On Oct 22, 2017 16:29, "David Taylor" davidtaylorjr1985@gmail.com wrote:
I am just getting interested in Satellite work and I don't really have any money at all for antennas.
What is the easiest/chepest way to get into this part of the hobby as far as an antenna goes?
I have a Wouxun UV8D for a HT radio that I will use so I only plan to do FM work at the moment.
Thanks and 73
David N4DCT _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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On 10/22/17, David Taylor davidtaylorjr1985@gmail.com wrote:
I am just getting interested in Satellite work and I don't really have any money at all for antennas.
What is the easiest/chepest way to get into this part of the hobby as far as an antenna goes?
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If you want to consider second-hand equipment, one good website to try is:
http://www.kwarc.org/swapshop/
I bought both my Yaesu FT-847 and ICOM IC-910 from that site. For the latter, I placed an ad for it and, within 2 days, I had 3 people offering to sell me their rigs.
Ham flea markets are another good source of second-hand gear, though that can be hit and miss, depending on what's being offered for sale. One year, at a flea market that's held annually in my city, I came home with a 2 m Yagi and a 6 m loop. Other times, I wondered why I bothered going.
Also, check if there are any swap-and-shop nets in your area where hams advertise items for sale or are looking for something in particular.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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