Hello alll,
I would just like to see if there was anyone that would like to comment on someones childish coments over the air on the AO-51 this weekend. Being new at this I did have some feedback on my transmissions. I corrected the problem with some headphones. I am saying flat out that the "CH19 few channels down" and "11 Meters check in now" and " get a real radio" were unprofessional and certainly uncalled for. I doubt that the person making these comments will step up now, I just wanted to see if anyone had the guts to comment on this. I know that others heard this. The person guilty of this childish behaviour, at the time stated "Hey ----- So-67 in 4 hours" I was on that pass and made a couple contacts, but do to the different audio was unable to identify this child. I did hear some dead keys, may or may not have been directed towards me.
This kind of thing is unacceptable to me and if I get the call sign of anyone doing these things I will report it.
Kevin S. Deane KF7MYK
Well, Kevin complain away...I'm the one that commented about 11 Meters. If you don't have a sense of humor, maybe you need another hobby. After about 2 days of your absolutely terrible 'audio'/CB style feedback, I could not restrain myself. Get over it. Since you were obviously duplex and aware of your condition, you should have stayed off the air until you fixed it!
So, with that said, I need your grid and you need mine, so see you on SO-67 in a bit.
73, Ted, K7TRK
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Deane Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 6:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] CH-19 11 Meters
Hello alll,
I would just like to see if there was anyone that would like to comment on someones childish coments over the air on the AO-51 this weekend. Being new at this I did have some feedback on my transmissions. I corrected the problem with some headphones. I am saying flat out that the "CH19 few channels down" and "11 Meters check in now" and " get a real radio" were unprofessional and certainly uncalled for. I doubt that the person making these comments will step up now, I just wanted to see if anyone had the guts to comment on this. I know that others heard this. The person guilty of this childish behaviour, at the time stated "Hey ----- So-67 in 4 hours" I was on that pass and made a couple contacts, but do to the different audio was unable to identify this child. I did hear some dead keys, may or may not have been directed towards me.
This kind of thing is unacceptable to me and if I get the call sign of anyone doing these things I will report it.
Kevin S. Deane KF7MYK _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Kevin, missed you on this pass. Try again tomorrow night
73, Ted, K7TRK
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ted Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:24 PM To: 'Kevin Deane'; [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CH-19 11 Meters
Well, Kevin complain away...I'm the one that commented about 11 Meters. If you don't have a sense of humor, maybe you need another hobby. After about 2 days of your absolutely terrible 'audio'/CB style feedback, I could not restrain myself. Get over it. Since you were obviously duplex and aware of your condition, you should have stayed off the air until you fixed it!
So, with that said, I need your grid and you need mine, so see you on SO-67 in a bit.
73, Ted, K7TRK
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Deane Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 6:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] CH-19 11 Meters
Hello alll,
I would just like to see if there was anyone that would like to comment on someones childish coments over the air on the AO-51 this weekend. Being new at this I did have some feedback on my transmissions. I corrected the problem with some headphones. I am saying flat out that the "CH19 few channels down" and "11 Meters check in now" and " get a real radio" were unprofessional and certainly uncalled for. I doubt that the person making these comments will step up now, I just wanted to see if anyone had the guts to comment on this. I know that others heard this. The person guilty of this childish behaviour, at the time stated "Hey ----- So-67 in 4 hours" I was on that pass and made a couple contacts, but do to the different audio was unable to identify this child. I did hear some dead keys, may or may not have been directed towards me.
This kind of thing is unacceptable to me and if I get the call sign of anyone doing these things I will report it.
Kevin S. Deane KF7MYK _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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I guess that this is always an interesting issue. Do you belittle people to make them change or do you give them corrective help by instructive comments? Ted, what do you feel is the best approach? What has been your experience in the past? Do you think that it helps you to feel better when you can make others feel bad about something they are failing at, or do you think it makes you feel better when you help people be successful at something that they seem to have no ability to improve at?
I generally find I feel better when I can be helpful because then the people I help, feel better because they are successful, and I feel better because they tell me thank you instead of posting on a list of my peers to tell me and everyone else how unhelpful I've been.
Ted, what are your thoughts?
Gregg W5GGW
On 2/1/2011 9:23 PM, Ted wrote:
Well, Kevin complain away...I'm the one that commented about 11 Meters. If you don't have a sense of humor, maybe you need another hobby. After about 2 days of your absolutely terrible 'audio'/CB style feedback, I could not restrain myself. Get over it. Since you were obviously duplex and aware of your condition, you should have stayed off the air until you fixed it!
So, with that said, I need your grid and you need mine, so see you on SO-67 in a bit.
73, Ted, K7TRK
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Deane Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 6:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] CH-19 11 Meters
Hello alll,I would just like to see if there was anyone that would like to comment on someones childish coments over the air on the AO-51 this weekend. Being new at this I did have some feedback on my transmissions. I corrected the problem with some headphones. I am saying flat out that the "CH19 few channels down" and "11 Meters check in now" and " get a real radio" were unprofessional and certainly uncalled for. I doubt that the person making these comments will step up now, I just wanted to see if anyone had the guts to comment on this. I know that others heard this. The person guilty of this childish behaviour, at the time stated "Hey ----- So-67 in 4 hours" I was on that pass and made a couple contacts, but do to the different audio was unable to identify this child. I did hear some dead keys, may or may not have been directed towards me.
This kind of thing is unacceptable to me and if I get the call sign of anyone doing these things I will report it.
Kevin S. Deane KF7MYK _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 19:23 -0800, Ted wrote:
Well, Kevin complain away...I'm the one that commented about 11 Meters. If you don't have a sense of humor, maybe you need another hobby. After about 2 days of your absolutely terrible 'audio'/CB style feedback, I could not restrain myself. Get over it. Since you were obviously duplex and aware of your condition, you should have stayed off the air until you fixed it!
So, with that said, I need your grid and you need mine, so see you on SO-67 in a bit.
73, Ted, K7TRK
Without giving a callsign? Well, two things spring to mind - a) you're breaking the terms of your licence, and b) chicken!
Don't say stuff on air - or online - that you wouldn't say to someone's face. And don't jam repeaters and satellites with puerile crap like that, either.
Gordon MM0YEQ
Everyone makes mistakes. There is about 10 reams of instructions available on www.AMSAT.org about using FM satellites--Read and ask questions..I give many talks and always have similar questions because people do need some instructions....Good luck on the sats and enjoy them because of the hard work of a few people that volunteer their time to put them together for "US." Please join AMSAT when you start to feel guilty..Hi, Hi...
This reminds me of when Owen Garriot, W5LFL, was first on the Shuttle. The uplink and the downlink were very much confused by people trying to contact him. Speaking of chaos - everyone that transmitted on the downlink was harshly reprimanded and caused many moments of listening time abuse. The unhamly comments and language heard was enough to turn anyone off about Ham Radio. What a mess....
Rule of thumb? Listen to a few passes-learn the technique in use - then use it yourself.... AND Be K I N D to each other. Get your 2 or so QSO's in and leave some time for others to do the same....Good Luck... Giving a talk at the BARA meeting in NJ on February 13th - stop by and join in the fun evening. 73, Dee, NB2F
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CH-19 11 Meters
On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 19:23 -0800, Ted wrote:
Well, Kevin complain away...I'm the one that commented about 11 Meters. If you don't have a sense of humor, maybe you need another hobby. After about 2 days of your absolutely terrible 'audio'/CB style feedback, I could not restrain myself. Get over it. Since you were obviously duplex and aware of your condition, you should have stayed off
the air until you fixed it!
So, with that said, I need your grid and you need mine, so see you on SO-67 in a bit.
73, Ted, K7TRK
Without giving a callsign? Well, two things spring to mind - a) you're breaking the terms of your licence, and b) chicken!
Don't say stuff on air - or online - that you wouldn't say to someone's face. And don't jam repeaters and satellites with puerile crap like that, either.
Gordon MM0YEQ
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Dee,
Good points. I don't know why operators think it's a DX pileup and have to run 5 or more contacts and monopolize the bird too.
Greg N3MVF
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dee Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:57 AM To: 'Gordon JC Pearce'; [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CH-19 11 Meters
Everyone makes mistakes. There is about 10 reams of instructions available on www.AMSAT.org about using FM satellites--Read and ask questions..I give many talks and always have similar questions because people do need some instructions....Good luck on the sats and enjoy them because of the hard work of a few people that volunteer their time to put them together for "US." Please join AMSAT when you start to feel guilty..Hi, Hi...
This reminds me of when Owen Garriot, W5LFL, was first on the Shuttle. The uplink and the downlink were very much confused by people trying to contact him. Speaking of chaos - everyone that transmitted on the downlink was harshly reprimanded and caused many moments of listening time abuse. The unhamly comments and language heard was enough to turn anyone off about Ham Radio. What a mess....
Rule of thumb? Listen to a few passes-learn the technique in use - then use it yourself.... AND Be K I N D to each other. Get your 2 or so QSO's in and leave some time for others to do the same....Good Luck... Giving a talk at the BARA meeting in NJ on February 13th - stop by and join in the fun evening. 73, Dee, NB2F
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CH-19 11 Meters
On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 19:23 -0800, Ted wrote:
Well, Kevin complain away...I'm the one that commented about 11 Meters. If you don't have a sense of humor, maybe you need another hobby. After about 2 days of your absolutely terrible 'audio'/CB style feedback, I could not restrain myself. Get over it. Since you were obviously duplex and aware of your condition, you should have stayed off
the air until you fixed it!
So, with that said, I need your grid and you need mine, so see you on SO-67 in a bit.
73, Ted, K7TRK
Without giving a callsign? Well, two things spring to mind - a) you're breaking the terms of your licence, and b) chicken!
Don't say stuff on air - or online - that you wouldn't say to someone's face. And don't jam repeaters and satellites with puerile crap like that, either.
Gordon MM0YEQ
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At 11:06 AM 2/2/2011 -0500, "Greg Dober" [email protected] wrote:
Dee,
Good points. I don't know why operators think it's a DX pileup and have to run 5 or more contacts and monopolize the bird too.
Greg N3MVF
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dee Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:57 AM To: 'Gordon JC Pearce'; [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CH-19 11 Meters
Everyone makes mistakes. There is about 10 reams of instructions available on www.AMSAT.org about using FM satellites--Read and ask questions..I give many talks and always have similar questions because people do need some instructions....Good luck on the sats and enjoy them because of the hard work of a few people that volunteer their time to put them together for "US." Please join AMSAT when you start to feel guilty..Hi, Hi...
This reminds me of when Owen Garriot, W5LFL, was first on the Shuttle. The uplink and the downlink were very much confused by people trying to contact him. Speaking of chaos - everyone that transmitted on the downlink was harshly reprimanded and caused many moments of listening time abuse. The unhamly comments and language heard was enough to turn anyone off about Ham Radio. What a mess....
Rule of thumb? Listen to a few passes-learn the technique in use - then use it yourself.... AND Be K I N D to each other. Get your 2 or so QSO's in and leave some time for others to do the same....Good Luck... Giving a talk at the BARA meeting in NJ on February 13th - stop by and join in the fun evening. 73, Dee, NB2F
I thought the FM satellites were *supposed* to sound like eleven meters...
Foolish me.
KB7ADL
And if we are going to make fun of new operators, we need to modernize our terminology. Referring to "Channel 19" or "11 Meters" is sooooooo 20th Century. :-)
73, Bob K0NR
On 2/2/2011 8:56 AM, Dee wrote:
Everyone makes mistakes. There is about 10 reams of instructions available on www.AMSAT.org about using FM satellites--Read and ask questions..I give many talks and always have similar questions because people do need some instructions....Good luck on the sats and enjoy them because of the hard work of a few people that volunteer their time to put them together for "US." Please join AMSAT when you start to feel guilty..Hi, Hi...
This reminds me of when Owen Garriot, W5LFL, was first on the Shuttle. The uplink and the downlink were very much confused by people trying to contact him. Speaking of chaos - everyone that transmitted on the downlink was harshly reprimanded and caused many moments of listening time abuse. The unhamly comments and language heard was enough to turn anyone off about Ham Radio. What a mess....
Rule of thumb? Listen to a few passes-learn the technique in use - then use it yourself.... AND Be K I N D to each other. Get your 2 or so QSO's in and leave some time for others to do the same....Good Luck... Giving a talk at the BARA meeting in NJ on February 13th - stop by and join in the fun evening. 73, Dee, NB2F
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 12:30 -0700, Bob K0NR - email list wrote:
And if we are going to make fun of new operators, we need to modernize our terminology. Referring to "Channel 19" or "11 Meters" is sooooooo 20th Century. :-)
73, Bob K0NR
I'll tell you what, you can make fun of newly-licenced operators if you like, but you can get off my damn Internet until you learn how to behave ;-)
Isn't it annoying when a bunch of clueless newbies come along and bugger up your hobby?
Gordon MM0YEQ
On 2/4/2011 3:54 PM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 12:30 -0700, Bob K0NR - email list wrote:
And if we are going to make fun of new operators, we need to modernize our terminology. Referring to "Channel 19" or "11 Meters" is sooooooo 20th Century. :-)
73, Bob K0NR
I'll tell you what, you can make fun of newly-licenced operators if you like, but you can get off my damn Internet until you learn how to behave ;-)
Isn't it annoying when a bunch of clueless newbies come along and bugger up your hobby?
Gordon MM0YEQ
Just for the record: I like new licensees....I used to be one.
Bob K0NR
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Bob K0NR - email list -
Dee -
Gordon JC Pearce -
Greg Dober -
Gregg Wonderly -
Kevin Deane -
Ted -
Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL