Hi All: I am rebuilding a 440 MHZ Helix that I built several years ago . It worked very well, but I would like to reduce the size of the reflector to a more manageable size than I had before. The only reference to reflector size I can find is, "minimum 20" ". I may be looking in the wrong places. I would appreciate it, if someone would steer me in the right direction. Thanks, Pete, K1HZU
According to the W1GHZ antenna book at :
http://www.w1ghz.org/antbook/conf/Helical_feed_antennas.pdf
"The ground plane diameter is typically 0.94? in diameter" or about 25.25" for 440 MHz.
John WA4WDL
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Pete Norris, K1HZU" k1hzu@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:51 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] HELIX REFLECTOR?
Hi All: I am rebuilding a 440 MHZ Helix that I built several years ago . It worked very well, but I would like to reduce the size of the reflector to a more manageable size than I had before. The only reference to reflector size I can find is, "minimum 20" ". I may be looking in the wrong places. I would appreciate it, if someone would steer me in the right direction. Thanks, Pete, K1HZU
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Hi Pete,
Take a look at this article on helix ground planes: http://www.alzacomm.com/downloads/Helix_Letter.pdfhttp://www.alzacomm.com/downloads/Helix_Letter.pdf
It is also possible to make a helix with no ground plane. This was a cover article of the IEEE Antennas magazine in 1995. Search for the article
Kraus, J.D. A helical-beam antenna without a ground plane. IEEE Ant. Prop. Mag., 37 (2), 45, 1995.
at
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/guesthome.jsphttp://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/guesthome.jsp
You have to buy this one from IEEE if you are not an APS member.
Best of luck with your projects!
73, Tony AA2TX ---
At 08:51 PM 6/3/2010, Pete Norris, K1HZU wrote:
Hi All: I am rebuilding a 440 MHZ Helix that I built several years ago . It worked very well, but I would like to reduce the size of the reflector to a more manageable size than I had before. The only reference to reflector size I can find is, "minimum 20" ". I may be looking in the wrong places. I would appreciate it, if someone would steer me in the right direction. Thanks, Pete, K1HZU
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At 04:51 PM 6/3/2010, Pete Norris, K1HZU wrote:
Hi All: I am rebuilding a 440 MHZ Helix that I built several years ago . It worked very well, but I would like to reduce the size of the reflector to a more manageable size than I had before. The only reference to reflector size I can find is, "minimum 20" ". I may be looking in the wrong places. I would appreciate it, if someone would steer me in the right direction. Thanks, Pete, K1HZU
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You might be interested in the Helical Beam that Mike Cook designed in 1996 for reception of the Mars Global Surveyor (MGS). He used a 10.66 inch diameter loop Reflector. His antenna was designed for 437.1 MHz so you will want to adjust size to your operating frequency. If you doubt the performance of this antenna, mike detected MGS at 10 Million km from earth. MGS signal output is approx. 1w EIRP. http://af9y.com/helix.htm
I made an 18-turn version of Mike's helix, but did not have my 432 converter completed in time to receive MGS. I used a 15-inch aluminum pizza pan for my reflector. In general one uses a 0.5 to 0.6 wavelength reflector (diameter) (13.6-16.3 inch at 440-MHz) (Not withstanding W1GHZ's findings in his Antenna Book)
73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 ====================================== BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 144-600w, 432-100w, 1296-60w, 3400-fall 2010 DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa@hotmail.com ======================================
----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Norris, K1HZU" k1hzu@yahoo.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:51 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] HELIX REFLECTOR?
Hi All: I am rebuilding a 440 MHZ Helix that I built several years ago . It worked
very well, but I would like to reduce the size of the reflector to a more manageable size than I had before. The only reference to reflector size I can find is, "minimum 20" ". I may be looking in the wrong places. I would appreciate it, if someone would steer me in the right direction.
Thanks, Pete, K1HZU
Hi Pete, K1HZU
My 15 turns RHCP 70 cm Helix Antenna was built at first with a round aluminum sheet perforated reflector with a diameter of 460 mm ( 0.67 wavelenght) and it worked very well but after enlarging the diameter of reflector to 690 mm (about 1 wavelenght) overlapping to it a perforated aluminum mesh I realized that the gain increases by about 2 dB and the front to back ratio was much better than before.
The Helix is made with a non annealed wiredrawn aluminum rod 8 mm in diameter and the boom is made with a very hard plastic pipe 42 mm outside diameter and 31 mm inside diameter originally used for hight pressure oil ducts.
Following "ANTENNAS" from John Kraus the lenght of a turn has been made 1 wavelenght long into free space and the pitch angle between turns is about 13.8 degrees while the calculated half-power beam width is about 28 degrees.
The matching system between the 150 ohm impedance at the feed point and a 50 ohm coax cable is made using a 1/4 electrical wavelenght impedance transformer with Zo = 86 ohm made with two coaxial tubing.
For better performance and not to distort the pattern the antenna is fastened to the rear of reflector and the weight is balanced with a counterweight made with few lead disks.
The picture of the above 15 turns helix antenna is visible at i8CVS in QRZ.com
I have built two Helix Antennas the first one is a 10 turns with 0.67 wavelenght round reflector used beginning from OSCAR-7 to actually FO-29 and HO-68 and it works very well.
The second one is a 15 turns helix with a 1 wavelenght in diameter round reflector and it was used for the uplink from OSCAR-10 to AO40 as can be seen at i8CVS in QRZ.com but unfortunately I cannot use it for LEO satellites because the AZ/EL mount is slow because it was designed for HEO satellites and this is why I pull for P3E !
If someone is interested to built the above antenna for 10 or 15 turns I can send a zipped file with all the electrical and mechanical sized drawings of it.
Best 73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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