Having been a ham for over fifty years and having worked most modes of operation, including chasing DX and even satellite back in 1979, I totally agree that working AO-51 can get frustrating. However, if you think the mess on AO-51 is bad, try working a rare dx expedition sometime. Talk about pile-ups!
As for protocols, I think I've read this same protocol discussion in just about every ham mag. and no one has come up with a workable solution that solved the problem. People are individuals and they tend to do what they want to do.
I really wish I had a workable, amiable solution, but I don't, sorry. However, I don't recommend the Frequency Policemen idea, they generally just tend to make everyone more upset and the confusion gets even worse
Now I'll get off my soap-box. Thanks, Merle, AA4QE
A satellite with 25 channels would probably help. LOL This is why a lot of the old guard satellite ops wish for the translator days with 100-KHz of bandwidth and CW/SSB. But I do NOT want to start up a RANT on this -everyone knows this.
Single channel FM repeater satellites will always be saddled with this problem - too many users/one channel. Goes with the territory. that is reality. Another reality: lots of unused satellites while everyone is on a single satellite - why?
73, Ed when I get my rotating array QRV I will be on VO-52 and AO-7.., any maybe HO-68 ocassionally. On AO-51 I will be trying mode-VS
At 11:53 AM 1/11/2011, mlolmsted@fuse.net wrote:
Having been a ham for over fifty years and having worked most modes of operation, including chasing DX and even satellite back in 1979, I totally agree that working AO-51 can get frustrating. However, if you think the mess on AO-51 is bad, try working a rare dx expedition sometime. Talk about pile-ups!
As for protocols, I think I've read this same protocol discussion in just about every ham mag. and no one has come up with a workable solution that solved the problem. People are individuals and they tend to do what they want to do.
I really wish I had a workable, amiable solution, but I don't, sorry. However, I don't recommend the Frequency Policemen idea, they generally just tend to make everyone more upset and the confusion gets even worse
Now I'll get off my soap-box. Thanks, Merle, AA4QE
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On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 12:17 -0900, Edward R. Cole wrote:
A satellite with 25 channels would probably help. LOL This is why a lot of the old guard satellite ops wish for the translator days with 100-KHz of bandwidth and CW/SSB. But I do NOT want to start up a RANT on this -everyone knows this.
Single channel FM repeater satellites will always be saddled with this problem - too many users/one channel. Goes with the territory. that is reality. Another reality: lots of unused satellites while everyone is on a single satellite - why?
Because AO-51 is the most reliable satellite in terms of actually finding and working it. SO-50 seems to be almost impossible to lift, and the linear transponder ones require extremely expensive radios. You can work AO-51 with an el-cheapo dual-band handie and a homebrew antenna, and you can work /P really easily because you don't need a rotator or satellite tracking software.
I'm not going to rush out and buy a VHF/UHF SSB rig just to work the odd pass, especially since I've never heard anyone on the linear birds. I don't know if VO-52 works - I've never even heard its beacon - and AO-27 is only ever enabled over the US, making it useless for most of the world. It would be great to attempt a QSO through AO-7 but again I'm not going to go and buy a rig that costs as much as a car to do it.
Gordon MM0YEQ
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon JC Pearce" gordonjcp@gjcp.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Protocol
It would be great to attempt a QSO through AO-7 but again I'm not going to go and buy a rig that costs as much as a car to do it.
Gordon MM0YEQ
Hi Gordon , MM0YEQ
To work AO-7 mode-B as I actually do you need only any old CW/SSB 70 cm TX and any old 2 meters CW/SSB RX wich cost is not as much as a new car wheel.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
On 1/12/2011 2:58 AM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
and AO-27 is only ever enabled over the US, making it useless for most of the world.
This is incorrect. AO-27 is on for the same times on each orbit, meaning it covers all the mid latitude northern hemisphere. If you look at oscar.dcarr.org you'll see plenty of reports for AO-27 over EU.
73, Drew KO4MA
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