A local friend here has an Icom 451A 70cm all mode which he might sell me. What is the typical selling price for these rigs? It is in good physical condition with the mic and power cord. Are there any typical problems that show up with these rigs as they age, that I should be looking out for?
73s John AA5JG
On 01/12/12 23:19, John Geiger wrote:
A local friend here has an Icom 451A 70cm all mode which he might sell me. What is the typical selling price for these rigs? It is in good physical condition with the mic and power cord. Are there any typical problems that show up with these rigs as they age, that I should be looking out for?
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During my quest for x75 Icom rigs, I was told a few times that the 471 did not have a service manual, and you had to use a 271 manual for it. Since I have not ever seen one, I tend to think that is true.
I've only used a 471 once, but I have respect for it. The larger problem with it may be its age, and getting some of the specialty ICs could be hard. I seem to remember a few of them selling on ebay in the $200 area?
--STeve Andre' wb8wsf en72
I have one of these radios. Had many good years of use. A problem came up as follows: the frequency of the radio would not change properly when rotating the tuning knob. I sent the radio in for repair and ICOM sent it back saying that the decoder chip had failed and they did not have any repair parts any more. Good luck, Bob W2CNS
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On 01/12/12 23:19, John Geiger wrote:
A local friend here has an Icom 451A 70cm all mode which he might sell me.
What is the typical selling price for these rigs? It is in good physical condition with the mic and power cord. Are there any typical problems that show up with these rigs as they age, that I should be looking out for?
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During my quest for x75 Icom rigs, I was told a few times that the 471 did not have a service manual, and you had to use a 271 manual for it. Since I have not ever seen one, I tend to think that is true.
I've only used a 471 once, but I have respect for it. The larger problem with it may be its age, and getting some of the specialty ICs could be hard. I seem to remember a few of them selling on ebay in the $200 area?
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Bob, get in touch with Scott Malcom, MTS, in Washington State. Google it up. Scott is a former Icom tech. He specializes in older Icoms. He has repaired several of my X75 series radios. That being said, I had a decoder chip fail in a not-so-old Kenwood and I had to find another radio for parts. It might be time to think about upgrading to a newer radio. You might find after all is said and done that you have more money in the radio than it is worth. In fact, that might be the case right now after the very expensive trip to Icom. Just a guess. I have and use all of the X75 radios here and it is kind of like keeping a vintage car running. They have better selectivity than anything else out there except possibly a transverter. Good luck.
Steve, N4JQQ, EM55
Robert Nezelek wrote:
I have one of these radios. Had many good years of use. A problem came up as follows: the frequency of the radio would not change properly when rotating the tuning knob. I sent the radio in for repair and ICOM sent it back saying that the decoder chip had failed and they did not have any repair parts any more. Good luck, Bob W2CNS
-----Original Message----- From: owner-vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu [mailto:owner-vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of STeve Andre' Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:23 PM To: 'VHF REFLECTOR'; ICOM Reflector; Amsat-Bb@Amsat. Org Subject: [VHF] Re: [amsat-bb] Icom 451 questions
On 01/12/12 23:19, John Geiger wrote:
A local friend here has an Icom 451A 70cm all mode which he might sell me.
What is the typical selling price for these rigs? It is in good physical condition with the mic and power cord. Are there any typical problems that show up with these rigs as they age, that I should be looking out for?
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During my quest for x75 Icom rigs, I was told a few times that the 471 did not have a service manual, and you had to use a 271 manual for it. Since I have not ever seen one, I tend to think that is true.
I've only used a 471 once, but I have respect for it. The larger problem with it may be its age, and getting some of the specialty ICs could be hard. I seem to remember a few of them selling on ebay in the $200 area?
--STeve Andre' wb8wsf en72
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No more than $100. I actually think they are about worthless based on the current radios available and the age unless you are just into vintage radios. What are you going to use it for? I had a 251A as my first two-meter rig for weak-signal work. It was deaf. It HAD to have an outboard preamp. None of this generation of radios were very sensitive based on the technology used at the time.
I would say it might be a great radio for your repeater work.
Steve, N4JQQ, EM55bd
STeve Andre' wrote:
On 01/12/12 23:19, John Geiger wrote:
A local friend here has an Icom 451A 70cm all mode which he might sell me. What is the typical selling price for these rigs? It is in good physical condition with the mic and power cord. Are there any typical problems that show up with these rigs as they age, that I should be looking out for?
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During my quest for x75 Icom rigs, I was told a few times that the 471 did not have a service manual, and you had to use a 271 manual for it. Since I have not ever seen one, I tend to think that is true.
I've only used a 471 once, but I have respect for it. The larger problem with it may be its age, and getting some of the specialty ICs could be hard. I seem to remember a few of them selling on ebay in the $200 area?
--STeve Andre' wb8wsf en72
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I would tend to be slightly more positive. The decoders, while known to fail after a static shock, are old line 4k CMOS. These are still around at fleas and so forth. The X51 series is a solid workhorse IF the switching supply (internal) is OK. Some were good, some were bad and stayed that way. The flourescent display supply is probably subject to electrolytics drying out over time given the age of the radio. I still have mine as a back-up and because it was part of a terrestrial record. It definitely can use a preamp as can almost every all-mode ever created. But it isn't a bad radio at the right price. Here in NE, they are still hovering around $200 or more depending on condition.
David, WB1CMG Mont Vernon, NH 03057 FN42DV
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Crownhaven crownhaven@bellsouth.netwrote:
No more than $100. I actually think they are about worthless based on the current radios available and the age unless you are just into vintage radios. What are you going to use it for? I had a 251A as my first two-meter rig for weak-signal work. It was deaf. It HAD to have an outboard preamp. None of this generation of radios were very sensitive based on the technology used at the time. I would say it might be a great radio for your repeater work.
Steve, N4JQQ, EM55bd
STeve Andre' wrote:
On 01/12/12 23:19, John Geiger wrote:
A local friend here has an Icom 451A 70cm all mode which he might sell me. What is the typical selling price for these rigs? It is in good physical condition with the mic and power cord. Are there any typical problems that show up with these rigs as they age, that I should be looking out for?
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During my quest for x75 Icom rigs, I was told a few times that
the 471 did not have a service manual, and you had to use a 271 manual for it. Since I have not ever seen one, I tend to think that is true.
I've only used a 471 once, but I have respect for it. The larger problem with it may be its age, and getting some of the specialty ICs could be hard. I seem to remember a few of them selling on ebay in the $200 area?
--STeve Andre' wb8wsf en72
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Sorry David, I was giving "southern" prices. :))))))
Steve
David Upton wrote:
I would tend to be slightly more positive. The decoders, while known to fail after a static shock, are old line 4k CMOS. These are still around at fleas and so forth. The X51 series is a solid workhorse IF the switching supply (internal) is OK. Some were good, some were bad and stayed that way. The flourescent display supply is probably subject to electrolytics drying out over time given the age of the radio. I still have mine as a back-up and because it was part of a terrestrial record. It definitely can use a preamp as can almost every all-mode ever created. But it isn't a bad radio at the right price. Here in NE, they are still hovering around $200 or more depending on condition.
David, WB1CMG Mont Vernon, NH 03057 FN42DV
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Crownhaven <crownhaven@bellsouth.net mailto:crownhaven@bellsouth.net> wrote:
No more than $100. I actually think they are about worthless based on the current radios available and the age unless you are just into vintage radios. What are you going to use it for? I had a 251A as my first two-meter rig for weak-signal work. It was deaf. It HAD to have an outboard preamp. None of this generation of radios were very sensitive based on the technology used at the time. I would say it might be a great radio for your repeater work. Steve, N4JQQ, EM55bd STeve Andre' wrote: On 01/12/12 23:19, John Geiger wrote: A local friend here has an Icom 451A 70cm all mode which he might sell me. What is the typical selling price for these rigs? It is in good physical condition with the mic and power cord. Are there any typical problems that show up with these rigs as they age, that I should be looking out for? 73s John AA5JG _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org <mailto:AMSAT-BB@amsat.org>. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb During my quest for x75 Icom rigs, I was told a few times that the 471 did not have a service manual, and you had to use a 271 manual for it. Since I have not ever seen one, I tend to think that is true. I've only used a 471 once, but I have respect for it. The larger problem with it may be its age, and getting some of the specialty ICs could be hard. I seem to remember a few of them selling on ebay in the $200 area? --STeve Andre' wb8wsf en72 ------ Submissions: vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu <mailto:vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu> Subscription/removal requests: vhf-request@w6yx.stanford.edu <mailto:vhf-request@w6yx.stanford.edu> Human list administrator: vhf-approval@w6yx.stanford.edu <mailto:vhf-approval@w6yx.stanford.edu> List rules and information: http://www-w6yx.stanford.edu/vhf/ ------ Submissions: vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu <mailto:vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu> Subscription/removal requests: vhf-request@w6yx.stanford.edu <mailto:vhf-request@w6yx.stanford.edu> Human list administrator: vhf-approval@w6yx.stanford.edu <mailto:vhf-approval@w6yx.stanford.edu> List rules and information: http://www-w6yx.stanford.edu/vhf/
also check out http://www.w7jv.com/
nice guy, has done some work for me
73 Bob W7LRD
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From: "Crownhaven" crownhaven@bellsouth.net To: "STeve Andre'" andres@msu.edu Cc: "Amsat-Bb@Amsat. Org" amsat-bb@amsat.org, "ICOM Reflector" icom@mailman.qth.net, "VHF REFLECTOR" vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 6:00:39 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [VHF] Re: Icom 451 questions
No more than $100. I actually think they are about worthless based on the current radios available and the age unless you are just into vintage radios. What are you going to use it for? I had a 251A as my first two-meter rig for weak-signal work. It was deaf. It HAD to have an outboard preamp. None of this generation of radios were very sensitive based on the technology used at the time.
I would say it might be a great radio for your repeater work.
Steve, N4JQQ, EM55bd
STeve Andre' wrote:
On 01/12/12 23:19, John Geiger wrote:
A local friend here has an Icom 451A 70cm all mode which he might sell me. What is the typical selling price for these rigs? It is in good physical condition with the mic and power cord. Are there any typical problems that show up with these rigs as they age, that I should be looking out for?
73s John AA5JG _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
During my quest for x75 Icom rigs, I was told a few times that the 471 did not have a service manual, and you had to use a 271 manual for it. Since I have not ever seen one, I tend to think that is true.
I've only used a 471 once, but I have respect for it. The larger problem with it may be its age, and getting some of the specialty ICs could be hard. I seem to remember a few of them selling on ebay in the $200 area?
--STeve Andre' wb8wsf en72
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