Or just work the transponders (not the FM repeaters) and avoid the lids. That normally means being somewhere other than the exact middle of the passband. I have a few stations that I will absolutely not work until they clean up their operating style. Otherwise, I go out of my way to look for new ops.
73, Drew KO4MA
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob- W7LRD [email protected] Sent: Sep 2, 2013 1:39 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: So50
Hi John...the LIDS will never disappear..there are many more waiting in the wings...the best we can do is to "politely" educate the alleged offenders, usually via email. 73 Bob W7LRD
----- Original Message ----- From: "John - VE7JZ" [email protected] To: "Mat 62" [email protected], [email protected] Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 8:19:59 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: So50
My daughter, who is a new ham has just given up on trying SO-50. 5 times now she has set up the station to work someone and the moment she unkeys, there is someone calling and not listening. We here, have a TS-2000 with az-el setup and 2 yagis with auto tracking. I totally agree with the comments here on this subject of wild west operations on SO-50. It is out of control. Here on the wet coast there is a WA6 ( wont say his call here ) every day that is constantly either ruining qso's or using way too much power and wiping out transponders completely. And if you call this LID, he either cannot hear you or ignores you and continues his ignorant disregard for other users so HE can get HIS contacts and to heck with anyone else. A constant and rather rude transponder HOG that is on almost every pass of every voice satellite. So as of today, we (my daughter and I) will go back to weak signal work and drop off satellite use until these LIDS either disappear or something. Our 2 cents worth. Everyone have a great day wherever you might be. 73.<br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
On 9/2/13, Andrew Glasbrenner [email protected] wrote:
Or just work the transponders (not the FM repeaters) and avoid the lids. That normally means being somewhere other than the exact middle of the passband. I have a few stations that I will absolutely not work until they clean up their operating style. Otherwise, I go out of my way to look for new ops.
If I happen to hear a QSO in progress when I'm checking for my downlink on, say, FO-29, I move further up into the band and continue. I might miss some potential contacts but I'm not in anyone's way.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
<snip>
I may be mistaken but wouldn't instances like this be viable candidates to notify an ARRL Official Observer about? They are there to help educate people about proper operating practices and nudge others who are pushing the limits.
Bryce KB1LQC
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:11 AM, B J [email protected] wrote:
On 9/2/13, Andrew Glasbrenner [email protected] wrote:
Or just work the transponders (not the FM repeaters) and avoid the lids. That normally means being somewhere other than the exact middle of the passband. I have a few stations that I will absolutely not work until
they
clean up their operating style. Otherwise, I go out of my way to look for new ops.
If I happen to hear a QSO in progress when I'm checking for my downlink on, say, FO-29, I move further up into the band and continue. I might miss some potential contacts but I'm not in anyone's way.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
<snip> _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Getting an OO involved would be a waste of time, they have no more authority to do anything than you or I.
As long as we have these self proclaimed Satellite Instructors neglecting the benefit of Full Duplex operation, and the guy that thinks he must talk to every station on the bird, the problem won't go away.
What we need to do is exactly what someone else said, shoot the offending station an e-mail and try to elmer them in operating procedures. Full Duplex would take care of a lot, and its easily done with a couple of $35 dollar Chinese HT's and an Arrow or Elk antenna.
These operating issues have become much more obvious now that there is only one FM Bird left in operation.
Anyway, attempt to educate if at all possible and maybe it will get better.
73, Craig W1MSG
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bryce Salmi Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 2:50 PM To: amsat-bb Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: So50
I may be mistaken but wouldn't instances like this be viable candidates to notify an ARRL Official Observer about? They are there to help educate people about proper operating practices and nudge others who are pushing the limits.
Bryce KB1LQC
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:11 AM, B J [email protected] wrote:
On 9/2/13, Andrew Glasbrenner [email protected] wrote:
Or just work the transponders (not the FM repeaters) and avoid the lids. That normally means being somewhere other than the exact middle of the passband. I have a few stations that I will absolutely not work until
they
clean up their operating style. Otherwise, I go out of my way to look for new ops.
If I happen to hear a QSO in progress when I'm checking for my downlink on, say, FO-29, I move further up into the band and continue. I might miss some potential contacts but I'm not in anyone's way.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
<snip>
participants (4)
-
Andrew Glasbrenner -
B J -
Bryce Salmi -
Craig Gagner