Historical Data download for FOX-1A?
Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical Telemetry downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life in space.
73 KD9KCK
Bill,
You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item. I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured data and can be left alone to play with.
Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am sure, once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT Journal article.
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote:
Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical Telemetry downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life in space.
Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't seem to find any information on what columns are what.)
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Bill,
You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item. I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured data and can be left alone to play with.
Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am sure, once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT Journal article.
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote:
Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical Telemetry downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life in space.
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What CSV files are you getting from FoxTelem. As I recall they all have a first line that has the name of the field. Or do you mean translation from downlinked units to standard units (like volts, ma, degrees, etc)? I'm not sure there is a doc, but there probably should be. Let us know what you need to know.
Burns WB1FJ
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:38 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't seem to find any information on what columns are what.)
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Bill,
You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item. I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured data and can be left alone to play with.
Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am sure, once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT Journal article.
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote:
Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical
Telemetry
downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life in
space.
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Actually they are .log files but there the data in the FOXDB folder. None of them have headers for the columns. But now that I think about it they are probably the same as the columns in the tables when you actually run FoxTelem.
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 7:18 PM Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
What CSV files are you getting from FoxTelem. As I recall they all have a first line that has the name of the field. Or do you mean translation from downlinked units to standard units (like volts, ma, degrees, etc)? I'm not sure there is a doc, but there probably should be. Let us know what you need to know.
Burns WB1FJ
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:38 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't seem to find any information on what columns are what.)
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Bill,
You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item. I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured data and can be left alone to play with.
Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am sure, once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT Journal article.
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote:
Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical
Telemetry
downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life in
space.
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I know you can export CSV files from any graph that you make. There is a button on the graph. I hear what you are saying about the FOXDB contents. I'm not sure if you can export the full monty, but I suspect the files in FOXDB may differ from satellite to satellite. I will ask the developer and let you know.
Burns WB1FJ
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 7:30 PM Bill Gaylord chibill110@gmail.com wrote:
Actually they are .log files but there the data in the FOXDB folder. None of them have headers for the columns. But now that I think about it they are probably the same as the columns in the tables when you actually run FoxTelem.
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 7:18 PM Burns Fisher wb1fj-bb@fisher.cc wrote:
What CSV files are you getting from FoxTelem. As I recall they all have a first line that has the name of the field. Or do you mean translation from downlinked units to standard units (like volts, ma, degrees, etc)? I'm not sure there is a doc, but there probably should be. Let us know what you need to know.
Burns WB1FJ
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:38 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't seem to find any information on what columns are what.)
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Bill,
You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item. I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured data and can be left alone to play with.
Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am sure, once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT Journal article.
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote:
Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical
Telemetry
downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life in
space.
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Hi Bill,
You can download all of the data for AO-85 from this link: http://amsat.org/tlm/ao85/serverlogs.tar.gz That contains the raw data in CSV format. For Fox-1A the conversions are defined in the back of the manual for FoxTelem.
As Jerry said, your best bet might be to use FoxTelem. You can save the data as a CSV file from any graph. Even if it plots multiple channels. That allows you to save converted data in human readable form and do further analysis in another program.
I'm more than happy to walk you through how to do this and help extracting or converting the data. Let me know how I can help.
73 Chris
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 8:26 PM Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
What CSV files are you getting from FoxTelem. As I recall they all have a first line that has the name of the field. Or do you mean translation from downlinked units to standard units (like volts, ma, degrees, etc)? I'm not sure there is a doc, but there probably should be. Let us know what you need to know.
Burns WB1FJ
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:38 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't seem to find any information on what columns are what.)
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Bill,
You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item. I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured data and can be left alone to play with.
Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am sure, once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT Journal article.
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote:
Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical
Telemetry
downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life in
space.
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Thank you very much! Not at my computer at the moment but i will take a look in a bit.
Btw is there a way for FoxTelem to be told what time it is to allow to process passes shortly after they occur? (I plan on trying to automate pulling data from SatNOGS for the still operating Foxes.)
Also not totally related but any idea where i can look for old TLE for Fox-1A. I normally go to SpaceTrack to get thay sort of stuff but because Fox-1A doesnt exist there its not going to help much.
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 7:37 PM Chris Thompson g0kla@arrl.net wrote:
Hi Bill,
You can download all of the data for AO-85 from this link: http://amsat.org/tlm/ao85/serverlogs.tar.gz That contains the raw data in CSV format. For Fox-1A the conversions are defined in the back of the manual for FoxTelem.
As Jerry said, your best bet might be to use FoxTelem. You can save the data as a CSV file from any graph. Even if it plots multiple channels. That allows you to save converted data in human readable form and do further analysis in another program.
I'm more than happy to walk you through how to do this and help extracting or converting the data. Let me know how I can help.
73 Chris
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 8:26 PM Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
What CSV files are you getting from FoxTelem. As I recall they all have a first line that has the name of the field. Or do you mean translation from downlinked units to standard units (like volts, ma, degrees, etc)? I'm not sure there is a doc, but there probably should be. Let us know what you need to know.
Burns WB1FJ
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:38 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't seem to find any information on what columns are what.)
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Bill,
You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item. I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured
data
and can be left alone to play with.
Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am sure, once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT Journal article.
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote:
Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical
Telemetry
downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life in
space.
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Hi Bill, it’s aka AO-85 so pretty sure the Keps can still be gotten. Old or new.
73, Mark N8MH
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:21 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Thank you very much! Not at my computer at the moment but i will take a look in a bit.
Btw is there a way for FoxTelem to be told what time it is to allow to process passes shortly after they occur? (I plan on trying to automate pulling data from SatNOGS for the still operating Foxes.)
Also not totally related but any idea where i can look for old TLE for Fox-1A. I normally go to SpaceTrack to get thay sort of stuff but because Fox-1A doesnt exist there its not going to help much.
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 7:37 PM Chris Thompson g0kla@arrl.net wrote:
Hi Bill,
You can download all of the data for AO-85 from this link: http://amsat.org/tlm/ao85/serverlogs.tar.gz That contains the raw data in CSV format. For Fox-1A the conversions are defined in the back of the manual for FoxTelem.
As Jerry said, your best bet might be to use FoxTelem. You can save the data as a CSV file from any graph. Even if it plots multiple channels. That allows you to save converted data in human readable form and do further analysis in another program.
I'm more than happy to walk you through how to do this and help
extracting
or converting the data. Let me know how I can help.
73 Chris
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 8:26 PM Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
What CSV files are you getting from FoxTelem. As I recall they all
have a
first line that has the name of the field. Or do you mean translation from downlinked units to standard units (like volts, ma, degrees, etc)? I'm not sure there is a doc, but there probably should
be.
Let us know what you need to know.
Burns WB1FJ
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:38 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't seem
to
find any information on what columns are what.)
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Bill,
You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item. I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured
data
and can be left alone to play with.
Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am
sure,
once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT
Journal
article.
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote:
Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical
Telemetry
downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life in
space.
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I looked it up by Norad ID. From what i know its TLE are opennly distrobuted by space tracked because it went up with some military stuff. Same reason it was never on CelesTrack.
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 8:24 PM Mark L. Hammond marklhammond@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Bill, it’s aka AO-85 so pretty sure the Keps can still be gotten. Old or new.
73, Mark N8MH
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:21 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Thank you very much! Not at my computer at the moment but i will take a look in a bit.
Btw is there a way for FoxTelem to be told what time it is to allow to process passes shortly after they occur? (I plan on trying to automate pulling data from SatNOGS for the still operating Foxes.)
Also not totally related but any idea where i can look for old TLE for Fox-1A. I normally go to SpaceTrack to get thay sort of stuff but because Fox-1A doesnt exist there its not going to help much.
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 7:37 PM Chris Thompson g0kla@arrl.net wrote:
Hi Bill,
You can download all of the data for AO-85 from this link: http://amsat.org/tlm/ao85/serverlogs.tar.gz That contains the raw data in CSV format. For Fox-1A the conversions are defined in the back of
the
manual for FoxTelem.
As Jerry said, your best bet might be to use FoxTelem. You can save the data as a CSV file from any graph. Even if it plots multiple channels. That allows you to save converted data in human readable form and do further analysis in another program.
I'm more than happy to walk you through how to do this and help
extracting
or converting the data. Let me know how I can help.
73 Chris
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 8:26 PM Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
What CSV files are you getting from FoxTelem. As I recall they all
have a
first line that has the name of the field. Or do you mean translation from downlinked units to standard units (like volts, ma, degrees, etc)? I'm not sure there is a doc, but there probably should
be.
Let us know what you need to know.
Burns WB1FJ
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:38 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't
seem to
find any information on what columns are what.)
KD9KCK
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Bill,
You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item. I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured
data
and can be left alone to play with.
Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am
sure,
once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT
Journal
article.
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote: > Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical
Telemetry
> downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life
in
space.
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AO-85 and a couple of others are not available in the normal distributions. AMSAT keeps its own archives:
https://www.amsat.org/tle/historical/
Toward the bottom you can get the Keps for AO-85 in approximately weekly intervals.
73,
Alan WA4SCA
<-----Original Message----- <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bill Gaylord via <AMSAT-BB <Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 8:35 PM <To: Mark L. Hammond marklhammond@gmail.com <Cc: Chris Thompson g0kla@arrl.net; AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Historical Data download for FOX-1A? < <I looked it up by Norad ID. From what i know its TLE are opennly <distrobuted by space tracked because it went up with some military stuff. <Same reason it was never on CelesTrack. < <KD9KCK < <On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 8:24 PM Mark L. Hammond marklhammond@gmail.com <wrote: < <> Hi Bill, it’s aka AO-85 so pretty sure the Keps can still be gotten. Old <> or new. <> <> 73, <> Mark N8MH <> <> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:21 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB < <> amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote: <> <>> Thank you very much! Not at my computer at the moment but i will take a <>> look in a bit. <>> <>> Btw is there a way for FoxTelem to be told what time it is to allow to <>> process passes shortly after they occur? (I plan on trying to automate <>> pulling data from SatNOGS for the still operating Foxes.) <>> <>> <>> <>> Also not totally related but any idea where i can look for old TLE for <>> Fox-1A. I normally go to SpaceTrack to get thay sort of stuff but because <>> Fox-1A doesnt exist there its not going to help much. <>> <>> KD9KCK <>> <>> <>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 7:37 PM Chris Thompson g0kla@arrl.net wrote: <>> <>> > Hi Bill, <>> > <>> > You can download all of the data for AO-85 from this link: <>> > http://amsat.org/tlm/ao85/serverlogs.tar.gz That contains the raw data <>> > in CSV format. For Fox-1A the conversions are defined in the back of <>> the <>> > manual for FoxTelem. <>> > <>> > As Jerry said, your best bet might be to use FoxTelem. You can save the <>> > data as a CSV file from any graph. Even if it plots multiple channels. <>> > That allows you to save converted data in human readable form and do <>> > further analysis in another program. <>> > <>> > I'm more than happy to walk you through how to do this and help <>> extracting <>> > or converting the data. Let me know how I can help. <>> > <>> > 73 <>> > Chris <>> > <>> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 8:26 PM Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB < <>> > amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote: <>> > <>> >> What CSV files are you getting from FoxTelem. As I recall they all <>> have a <>> >> first line that has the name of the field. Or do you mean <>> >> translation from downlinked units to standard units (like volts, ma, <>> >> degrees, etc)? I'm not sure there is a doc, but there probably should <>> be. <>> >> Let us know what you need to know. <>> >> <>> >> Burns WB1FJ <>> >> <>> >> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:38 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB < <>> >> amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote: <>> >> <>> >> > Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't <>> seem to <>> >> > find any information on what columns are what.) <>> >> > <>> >> > KD9KCK <>> >> > <>> >> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB < <>> >> > amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote: <>> >> > <>> >> > > Bill, <>> >> > > <>> >> > > You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with <>> >> > > FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item. <>> >> > > I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data <>> >> > > directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured <>> >> data <>> >> > > and can be left alone to play with. <>> >> > > <>> >> > > Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am <>> sure, <>> >> > > once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or <>> >> > > hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT <>> Journal <>> >> > > article. <>> >> > > <>> >> > > Jerry Buxton, NØJY <>> >> > > <>> >> > > On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote: <>> >> > > > Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical <>> >> > Telemetry <>> >> > > > downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life <>> in <>> >> > space. <>> >> > > <>> >> > > _______________________________________________ <>> >> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum <>> available <>> >> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <>> >> > Opinions <>> >> > > expressed <>> >> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official <>> views <>> >> of <>> >> > > AMSAT-NA. <>> >> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <>> >> > program! <>> >> > > Subscription settings: <>> >> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <>> >> > > <>> >> > _______________________________________________ <>> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum <>> available <>> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <>> >> Opinions <>> >> > expressed <>> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official <>> views of <>> >> > AMSAT-NA. <>> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <>> >> program! <>> >> > Subscription settings: <>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <>> >> > <>> >> _______________________________________________ <>> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <>> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <>> >> Opinions expressed <>> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views <>> of <>> >> AMSAT-NA. <>> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <>> program! <>> >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <>> >> <>> > <>> > <>> > -- <>> > Chris E. Thompson <>> > chrisethompson@gmail.com <>> > g0kla@arrl.net <>> > <>> _______________________________________________ <>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <>> Opinions expressed <>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <>> AMSAT-NA. <>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! <>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <>> <> -- <> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] <> AMSAT Director and Command Station <> <> <_______________________________________________ <Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. <Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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AO-85 and a couple of others are not available in the normal distributions. AMSAT keeps its own archives:
https://www.amsat.org/tle/historical/
Toward the bottom you can get the Keps for AO-85 in approximately weekly intervals.
73,
Alan WA4SCA
<-----Original Message----- <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bill Gaylord via <AMSAT-BB <Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 8:35 PM <To: Mark L. Hammond marklhammond@gmail.com <Cc: Chris Thompson g0kla@arrl.net; AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Historical Data download for FOX-1A? < <I looked it up by Norad ID. From what i know its TLE are opennly <distrobuted by space tracked because it went up with some military stuff. <Same reason it was never on CelesTrack. < <KD9KCK < <On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 8:24 PM Mark L. Hammond marklhammond@gmail.com <wrote: < <> Hi Bill, it’s aka AO-85 so pretty sure the Keps can still be gotten. Old <> or new. <> <> 73, <> Mark N8MH <> <> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:21 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB < <> amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote: <> <>> Thank you very much! Not at my computer at the moment but i will take a <>> look in a bit. <>> <>> Btw is there a way for FoxTelem to be told what time it is to allow to <>> process passes shortly after they occur? (I plan on trying to automate <>> pulling data from SatNOGS for the still operating Foxes.) <>> <>> <>> <>> Also not totally related but any idea where i can look for old TLE for <>> Fox-1A. I normally go to SpaceTrack to get thay sort of stuff but because <>> Fox-1A doesnt exist there its not going to help much. <>> <>> KD9KCK <>> <>> <>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 7:37 PM Chris Thompson g0kla@arrl.net wrote: <>> <>> > Hi Bill, <>> > <>> > You can download all of the data for AO-85 from this link: <>> > http://amsat.org/tlm/ao85/serverlogs.tar.gz That contains the raw data <>> > in CSV format. For Fox-1A the conversions are defined in the back of <>> the <>> > manual for FoxTelem. <>> > <>> > As Jerry said, your best bet might be to use FoxTelem. You can save the <>> > data as a CSV file from any graph. Even if it plots multiple channels. <>> > That allows you to save converted data in human readable form and do <>> > further analysis in another program. <>> > <>> > I'm more than happy to walk you through how to do this and help <>> extracting <>> > or converting the data. Let me know how I can help. <>> > <>> > 73 <>> > Chris <>> > <>> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 8:26 PM Burns Fisher via AMSAT-BB < <>> > amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote: <>> > <>> >> What CSV files are you getting from FoxTelem. As I recall they all <>> have a <>> >> first line that has the name of the field. Or do you mean <>> >> translation from downlinked units to standard units (like volts, ma, <>> >> degrees, etc)? I'm not sure there is a doc, but there probably should <>> be. <>> >> Let us know what you need to know. <>> >> <>> >> Burns WB1FJ <>> >> <>> >> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 4:38 PM Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB < <>> >> amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote: <>> >> <>> >> > Is there a document on how the CSV files are formatted? (I can't <>> seem to <>> >> > find any information on what columns are what.) <>> >> > <>> >> > KD9KCK <>> >> > <>> >> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 2:07 AM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB < <>> >> > amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote: <>> >> > <>> >> > > Bill, <>> >> > > <>> >> > > You can download all of the data for any particular satellite with <>> >> > > FoxTelem, using the "fetch server data" menu item. <>> >> > > I would suggest setting up/switching to a separate FoxTelem data <>> >> > > directory for that so the info doesn't overwrite your own captured <>> >> data <>> >> > > and can be left alone to play with. <>> >> > > <>> >> > > Your analysis is of interest to engineering and many others I am <>> sure, <>> >> > > once you have studied the data and come to some conclusions or <>> >> > > hypotheses you may want to consider presenting it in an AMSAT <>> Journal <>> >> > > article. <>> >> > > <>> >> > > Jerry Buxton, NØJY <>> >> > > <>> >> > > On 7/25/2020 22:22, Bill Gaylord via AMSAT-BB wrote: <>> >> > > > Is it possible to get some sort of download for the Historical <>> >> > Telemetry <>> >> > > > downlinked by Fox-1A? It would be interesting to study its life <>> in <>> >> > space. <>> >> > > <>> >> > > _______________________________________________ <>> >> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum <>> available <>> >> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <>> >> > Opinions <>> >> > > expressed <>> >> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official <>> views <>> >> of <>> >> > > AMSAT-NA. <>> >> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <>> >> > program! <>> >> > > Subscription settings: <>> >> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <>> >> > > <>> >> > _______________________________________________ <>> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum <>> available <>> >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <>> >> Opinions <>> >> > expressed <>> >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official <>> views of <>> >> > AMSAT-NA. <>> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <>> >> program! <>> >> > Subscription settings: <>> https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <>> >> > <>> >> _______________________________________________ <>> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <>> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <>> >> Opinions expressed <>> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views <>> of <>> >> AMSAT-NA. <>> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <>> program! <>> >> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <>> >> <>> > <>> > <>> > -- <>> > Chris E. Thompson <>> > chrisethompson@gmail.com <>> > g0kla@arrl.net <>> > <>> _______________________________________________ <>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <>> Opinions expressed <>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <>> AMSAT-NA. <>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! <>> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <>> <> -- <> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] <> AMSAT Director and Command Station <> <> <_______________________________________________ <Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. <Not an AMSAT-NA member? 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