Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:19:38 +0200 From: John Hackett archie.hackett@hotmail.com Subject: [amsat-bb] Staus? ... come back next week!. To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Message-ID: COL123-W51C224C616E9AE78F157B191F30@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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I saw them tearing a building down A team of men in my hometown. With a heave and a ho and a yes yes yell, they swung a beam and a sidewall fell.
And I said to the foreman, "Are these men skilled?" "Like the ones you'd use if you had to build?" And he laughed and said, "Oh no, indeed... the most common labor is all I need... for I can destroy in a day or two what takes a builder ten years to do."
So I thought to myself as I went on my way... Which one of these roles am I willing to play? Am I one who is tearing down as I carelessly make my way around? Or am I one who builds with care, in order to make the world a little better... because I was there?
Err ... chaps, This evening, Sunday the 30th of August, 21:10 GMT.
The Amsat-NA satellite status page reports FO-29 as being A-OK.
It's the 6th day of silence now - (the D.Carr page status is correct).
*NOT* very Impressive Amsat. 1 day, OK, 2 days (marginally) acceptable, but 6 days? ... doesn't exactly incite to impress the pitential newcomer.
Yes, I *KNOW* they're volunteers. I understand the workload. The potential newcomer doesn't - and he may wonder why he can't hear his downlink.
The newcomer probably doesn't subscribe to the ANS yet, and maybe has never even heard! of D.Carr & Bob Bruninga.
73 John. la2qaa@amsat.org
I just put my software testing hat on, went to the offending web page, and noted that while there is a link to report bugs, there is no link to report outdated information. While this *is* an option when you follow the report a bug link, my idea of a bug on a web page is wonky layout on Safari (a common problem, alas...) or a graphic that doesn't load. Outdated information is not a bug.
Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Que les nuages soient notre Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..." ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Hospital/Shafte
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I agree Laura, Incorrect information is not a 'bug'.
For what it's worth, there were 7 replies in yesterday's mailbox commenting on the somewhat crass reply from the b.o.d. member concerned - good job they didn't see the private! one ... and just one, Gentleman commenting on tearing things down (???) - based on an obvious incorrect opinion.
I also note that Mr Glasbrenner referred he whom enquired about AO-7's status, to the D.Carr page. Wasn't that rather inopportune after making such a fuss about the Amsat page being updated?.
Please note that I *DIDN'T* criticise either an American, nor the Amsat organisation - (as Mr Glasbrenner accused me of doing in - (his words) ... "every time he saw my callsign" ... (in his mail to me direct).
For those old enough to remember, there are many instances where I've praised Americans - (operating proceedure) and the Amsat organisation (full of clever, and often very helpful indivuduals). My friends Stateside are too numerous to mention individually but they know who they are.
I'd hardly call Bill Tynan's plaque to LA2QAA as proof of concept of my criticising Americans or the Amsat organisation - however, if a current member of the b.o.d. gets his rocks off by a tantrum ... good luck! to him, I've faced slightly more wrath than that.
The the 'tearing down' Gentleman ... if you find 6 days of incorrect information on your organisation's website as acceptable, and the reaction shown for pointing it out, fine. Personally, like I mentioned in my original mail, a couple of days I find acceptable, due to various commitments etc - but 6 days is, in my personal opinion rather lax - volunteer or not.
That Mr Glasbrenner was a good deal rattier direct, was probably due to him confusing satire with criticism on a previous occasion ... and no, eventual satire has *NEVER* been directed at an individual.
That, as they say - is it. I felt I needed to justify myself for anyone 'just wondering' where all that temper came from.
I apologise for the bandwidth if you think it's misused.
In my opinion, no permanent harm done. Worse things happen at sea!.
73 John. LA2QAA. archie.hackett@hotmail.com .......................................................................................................................
From: marsgal42@hotmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 08:31:29 -0700 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Staus? ... come back next week!
I just put my software testing hat on, went to the offending web page, and noted that while there is a link to report bugs, there is no link to report outdated information. While this *is* an option when you follow the report a bug link, my idea of a bug on a web page is wonky layout on Safari (a common problem, alas...) or a graphic that doesn't load. Outdated information is not a bug.
Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Que les nuages soient notre Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..." ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Hospital/Shafte
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Armando Mercado
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john hackett
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laura halliday