I plan to purchase a new home transceiver in the next few months and I've narrowed my choices between a 910H and a TS2000. Thinking only of satellite operation (ignoring the HF capability of the TS2000), is there a general preference in the Amsat community of one over the other? Reasons?
Thanks for your opinions. Tom, KØTW
Not trashing the 2000, but when it first came out I sold a TS-450 and an Icom 910 thinking that "one box" would be great. So, I purchased the 2000. Well, within one year, I sold the 2000 and bought a TS-870 for HF work and another IC-910. I could have lived with it as an HF radio and a UHF/VHF repeater radio. The "birdies" drove me crazy on certain sat frequencies. Not sure if that was ever fixed? It had more bells and whistles such as adding the sats name to the menu etc, but I thought the 910's receive capabilities were second to none for weak signal work. I still love my second IC-910! Still have the TS-870 too.
Of course, all is one man's opinion. This could become the "great debate" thread. hi hi
good luck, Greg N3MVF
-----Original Message----- From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:02 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910H vs Kenwood TS2000
I plan to purchase a new home transceiver in the next few months and I've narrowed my choices between a 910H and a TS2000. Thinking only of satellite operation (ignoring the HF capability of the TS2000), is there a general preference in the Amsat community of one over the other? Reasons?
Thanks for your opinions. Tom, KØTW
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I love the 910H
----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Dober" almetco@comcast.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:20 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Icom 910H vs. Kenwood TS2000
Not trashing the 2000, but when it first came out I sold a TS-450 and an Icom 910 thinking that "one box" would be great. So, I purchased the 2000. Well, within one year, I sold the 2000 and bought a TS-870 for HF work and another IC-910. I could have lived with it as an HF radio and a UHF/VHF repeater radio. The "birdies" drove me crazy on certain sat frequencies. Not sure if that was ever fixed? It had more bells and whistles such as adding the sats name to the menu etc, but I thought the 910's receive capabilities were second to none for weak signal work. I still love my second IC-910! Still have the TS-870 too.
Of course, all is one man's opinion. This could become the "great debate" thread. hi hi
good luck, Greg N3MVF
-----Original Message----- From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:02 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910H vs Kenwood TS2000
I plan to purchase a new home transceiver in the next few months and I've narrowed my choices between a 910H and a TS2000. Thinking only of satellite operation (ignoring the HF capability of the TS2000), is there a general preference in the Amsat community of one over the other? Reasons?
Thanks for your opinions. Tom, KØTW
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Greg Dober almetco@comcast.net wrote:
Not trashing the 2000, but when it first came out I sold a TS-450 and an Icom 910 thinking that "one box" would be great. So, I purchased the 2000. Well, within one year, I sold the 2000 and bought a TS-870 for HF work and another IC-910. I could have lived with it as an HF radio and a UHF/VHF repeater radio. The "birdies" drove me crazy on certain sat frequencies. Not sure if that was ever fixed? It had more bells and whistles such as adding the sats name to the menu etc, but I thought the 910's receive capabilities were second to none for weak signal work. I still love my second IC-910! Still have the TS-870 too.
Of course, all is one man's opinion. This could become the "great debate" thread. hi hi
I own a TS-2000. I have tried just about every solution for the birdies, and have found none that works well. Thus you have to be willing to lose SO-50 and AO-27 with this radio. Further draw-backs for this rig and satellite work is that the lowest adjustable power is 5w. I plan to install longish antennas in the near future, and with them my transmit power will be, in many cases, excessive no matter how low I set the TS-2000.
I haven't used an IC-910, but I understand it has an excellent reputation. I note that 5w is the minimum power for it also, but other ICOM radios have an internal pot that allows you to adjust this low point. Does the IC-910 as well? If price is a consideration, note that the ICOM rig will require the purchase of additional filters, whereas the TS-2000 has fully-adjustable filters in place. I very much like this feature.
I am very happy with my TS-2000 as an all-in-one rig, but if I could own two rigs, judging by the comments here and elsewhere I would probably get a IC-910 (or a software defined radio with transverters!).
73, Bruce VE9QRP
-----Original Message----- From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:02 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910H vs Kenwood TS2000
I plan to purchase a new home transceiver in the next few months and I've narrowed my choices between a 910H and a TS2000. Thinking only of satellite operation (ignoring the HF capability of the TS2000), is there a general preference in the Amsat community of one over the other? Reasons?
Thanks for your opinions. Tom, KØTW
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With watt/swr meter in-line I have found my IC-910 to actually go down to as low as 1 - 2 watts. It have used it in a QRP mode at this level many times. I know that the brochure states 5 watts for 2/70cm and 1 watt for 1.2ghz, but found it to actually go lower, but still go to full power as advertised.
Reid, W4UPD
Bruce Robertson wrote:
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Greg Dober almetco@comcast.net wrote:
Not trashing the 2000, but when it first came out I sold a TS-450 and an Icom 910 thinking that "one box" would be great. So, I purchased the 2000. Well, within one year, I sold the 2000 and bought a TS-870 for HF work and another IC-910. I could have lived with it as an HF radio and a UHF/VHF repeater radio. The "birdies" drove me crazy on certain sat frequencies. Not sure if that was ever fixed? It had more bells and whistles such as adding the sats name to the menu etc, but I thought the 910's receive capabilities were second to none for weak signal work. I still love my second IC-910! Still have the TS-870 too.
Of course, all is one man's opinion. This could become the "great debate" thread. hi hi
I own a TS-2000. I have tried just about every solution for the birdies, and have found none that works well. Thus you have to be willing to lose SO-50 and AO-27 with this radio. Further draw-backs for this rig and satellite work is that the lowest adjustable power is 5w. I plan to install longish antennas in the near future, and with them my transmit power will be, in many cases, excessive no matter how low I set the TS-2000.
I haven't used an IC-910, but I understand it has an excellent reputation. I note that 5w is the minimum power for it also, but other ICOM radios have an internal pot that allows you to adjust this low point. Does the IC-910 as well? If price is a consideration, note that the ICOM rig will require the purchase of additional filters, whereas the TS-2000 has fully-adjustable filters in place. I very much like this feature.
I am very happy with my TS-2000 as an all-in-one rig, but if I could own two rigs, judging by the comments here and elsewhere I would probably get a IC-910 (or a software defined radio with transverters!).
73, Bruce VE9QRP
-----Original Message----- From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:02 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910H vs Kenwood TS2000
I plan to purchase a new home transceiver in the next few months and I've narrowed my choices between a 910H and a TS2000. Thinking only of satellite operation (ignoring the HF capability of the TS2000), is there a general preference in the Amsat community of one over the other? Reasons?
Thanks for your opinions. Tom, KØTW
Although I have owned Kenwood equipment (and still have the TS711/811 pair) I purchased an Icom IC-910 and have been very happy with it. I have a few friends with the TS2000 and although it is a nice rig, I found the IC-910 to be more sensitive to weak signals related to satellites and have at times received the signals without using my preamp. The TS2000 also have some birdies in the satellite frequencies that can be annoying and this problem has not nor do they plan on fixing.
If you do not have a rig yet and wish a unit that covers HF/VHF/UHF than this may be the unit. Frankly, I don't like having all my eggs in one basket in the event the rig fails, you lose it all. You can get other rigs cheaper that cover HF/VHF/UHF that are not satellite rigs at affordable prices and still get the Icom IC-910 which is what I did. Also, if you want to add 1.2Ghz it is less than a 5 minute project on the IC-910. The TS2000 is a bit more time consuming and difficult.
Just my two cents.
Reid, W4UPD
Tom wrote:
I plan to purchase a new home transceiver in the next few months and I've narrowed my choices between a 910H and a TS2000. Thinking only of satellite operation (ignoring the HF capability of the TS2000), is there a general preference in the Amsat community of one over the other? Reasons?
Thanks for your opinions. Tom, KØTW
The IC-910H is officially discontinued by Icom. It's being replaced by the IC-9100 which is a "dc to light" "all-in-one" box like the TS-2000. The IC-9100 isn't yet available in the US - still awaiting FCC approval. According to Icom, the IC-9100 is a combination of the 746Pro (also discontinued) and the 910H. No pricing yet either, but I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out substantially more expensive that the TS-2000. Icom plans to debut the IC-9100 at next years Dayton Hamvention. If it's significantly more expensive than the TS-2000, I'll buy the Kenwood rig.
Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom" k0tw@cox.net
I plan to purchase a new home transceiver in the next few months and I've narrowed my choices between a 910H and a TS2000. Thinking only of satellite operation (ignoring the HF capability of the TS2000), is there a general preference in the Amsat community of one over the other? Reasons?
Thanks for your opinions. Tom, KØTW
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