I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it. I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando) michael.vivona@wftv.com wrote:
I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it. I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
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I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the issue is? Just sayin'.
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando) michael.vivona@wftv.com wrote:
I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it. I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
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Based on reading posts here and elsewhere that it just doesn't work very well for that purpose. It's a wonderful program for many things, but Doppler correction on linear transponders just doesn't seem to work well.
I know a ton of hams that successfully use SatPC32 to computer control their stations. I do not know of any that use HRD. If anyone does, please comment!
I have never personally used computer control because my operating conditions make it quite difficult to implement (perhaps I could strap a Windows 8 tablet running SatPC32 to my arm). When you are just getting started it's best to learn to tune manually anyway. You don't want to lose out on a rare grid or country just because your computer control stops working for whatever reason!
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Mvivona Mvivona@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the issue is? Just sayin'.
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando) michael.vivona@wftv.com wrote:
I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it. I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
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In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning does not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32 will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
73, Drew KO4MA
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On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the issue is? Just sayin'.
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando) michael.vivona@wftv.com wrote:
I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it. I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
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Thanks Andrew, OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner glasbrenner@mindspring.com wrote:
In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning does not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32 will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
73, Drew KO4MA
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the issue is? Just sayin'.
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando) michael.vivona@wftv.com wrote:
I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it. I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
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Repeated over a few high elevation passes, actually working stations. It may work for you.
Don't get me wrong, I like HRD. I used it last night with my IC-910 to work 2m Eskip remotely while out of town. However, I don't know a single active transponder op that uses it successfully. I invite them to step forward and speak up.
Myself, the response from HRD you got would give me significant pause. On the other hand the author of SatPC32 is an active participant here, and has provided outstanding, even custom, support.
73, Drew KO4MA
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On Jun 24, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Mvivona Mvivona@yahoo.com wrote:
Thanks Andrew, OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner glasbrenner@mindspring.com wrote:
In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning does not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32 will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
73, Drew KO4MA
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the issue is? Just sayin'.
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando) michael.vivona@wftv.com wrote:
I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it. I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
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Even if you were to test it at AES, I doubt they have adequate antennas (and, even more importantly, feedline) set up for decent satellite reception, so it may not make a good test.
May I ask why you are so eager to use HRD for this purpose? An IC-9100 is probably the best satellite transceiver on the market and many hams use them very successfully as part of a fully computer controlled satellite station - with SatPC32.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner glasbrenner@mindspring.com wrote:
Repeated over a few high elevation passes, actually working stations. It may work for you.
Don't get me wrong, I like HRD. I used it last night with my IC-910 to work 2m Eskip remotely while out of town. However, I don't know a single active transponder op that uses it successfully. I invite them to step forward and speak up.
Myself, the response from HRD you got would give me significant pause. On the other hand the author of SatPC32 is an active participant here, and has provided outstanding, even custom, support.
73, Drew KO4MA
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 24, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Mvivona Mvivona@yahoo.com wrote:
Thanks Andrew, OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner glasbrenner@mindspring.com wrote:
In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning does not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32 will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
73, Drew KO4MA
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the issue is? Just sayin'.
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando) michael.vivona@wftv.com wrote:
I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it. I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
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Paul, I am only giving my humble opinion here, but to answer your question of why I want to use HRD over SatPC32. After using both, my conclusions are that they are not even in the same class.
HRD is a one stop full integrated software suite for everything a ham could ever need. Logbook with synchronized web call lookup, digital mode module, satellite module, mapping that visually shows all your logbook contacts, rig control, remote access, rotor control, dual radio sync, built in solar cycle progression, DX cluster window, built in calendar, fully configurable user layouts throughout the entire suite.
SatPC32 is a satellite tracking program that has rig control via the sat window, and rotor control. It to me is quite clunky and has that old timey DOS look and feel.
Please, I don't want this to turn into a pi$$ing match. I am just trying to be as true to myself as I can. Me being a life long systems administrator and programmer have watched the upward progression of HRD over the years and have been in awe with everything Simon has accomplished. If what I'm hearing is that I just have to use SatPC32 for linear birds, then so be it. At the same time I am also hearing from many users that they only use SatPC32 or HRD just to track, but actually run their rigs by hand for the Doppler offset. So, maybe it's a moot point, I don't know?
I really want to thank you guys for all your input in making me a better operator.
Michael Vivona KC4ZVA Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
Even if you were to test it at AES, I doubt they have adequate antennas (and, even more importantly, feedline) set up for decent satellite reception, so it may not make a good test.
May I ask why you are so eager to use HRD for this purpose? An IC-9100 is probably the best satellite transceiver on the market and many hams use them very successfully as part of a fully computer controlled satellite station - with SatPC32.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner glasbrenner@mindspring.com wrote:
Repeated over a few high elevation passes, actually working stations. It may work for you.
Don't get me wrong, I like HRD. I used it last night with my IC-910 to work 2m Eskip remotely while out of town. However, I don't know a single active transponder op that uses it successfully. I invite them to step forward and speak up.
Myself, the response from HRD you got would give me significant pause. On the other hand the author of SatPC32 is an active participant here, and has provided outstanding, even custom, support.
73, Drew KO4MA
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 24, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Mvivona Mvivona@yahoo.com wrote:
Thanks Andrew, OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner glasbrenner@mindspring.com wrote:
In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning does not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32 will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
73, Drew KO4MA
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what the issue is? Just sayin'.
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear transponders.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando) michael.vivona@wftv.com wrote:
I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it. I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
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At 05:58 PM 6/24/2015 -0400, Mvivona Mvivona@yahoo.com wrote:
Paul, I am only giving my humble opinion here, but to answer your question of why I want to use HRD over SatPC32. After using both, my conclusions are that they are not even in the same class.
HRD is a one stop full integrated software suite for everything a ham could ever need. Logbook with synchronized web call lookup, digital mode module, satellite module, mapping that visually shows all your logbook contacts, rig control, remote access, rotor control, dual radio sync, built in solar cycle progression, DX cluster window, built in calendar, fully configurable user layouts throughout the entire suite.
SatPC32 is a satellite tracking program that has rig control via the sat window, and rotor control. It to me is quite clunky and has that old timey DOS look and feel.
Please, I don't want this to turn into a pi$$ing match. I am just trying to be as true to myself as I can. Me being a life long systems administrator and programmer have watched the upward progression of HRD over the years and have been in awe with everything Simon has accomplished. If what I'm hearing is that I just have to use SatPC32 for linear birds, then so be it. At the same time I am also hearing from many users that they only use SatPC32 or HRD just to track, but actually run their rigs by hand for the Doppler offset. So, maybe it's a moot point, I don't know?
I really want to thank you guys for all your input in making me a better operator.
Michael
And to think I still use InstantTrack and two fingers....
with success.
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KB7ADL
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* I am only giving my humble opinion here, but to answer your question of why I want to use HRD over SatPC32. After using both, my conclusions are that they are not even in the same class."* Hi Michael,
You are correct and your are also wrong, with due respect. "*They are not even in the same class*" *Yes, and SatPC32 delivers where HRD is a failure!* If you truly believe that HRD is "*one stop full integrated software suite for everything a ham could ever need*" you might want to check the forums and the constant need for fixes. Having a shiny user interface does nothing if things don't work. SatPC32 works, it doesn't need fixes, it gets regular updates, that's what is important. My request to Erich (the author) for an additional function gets a positive response within days!!!!! SatPC32 is simple (you call it clunky) and the functionality is right on. It does what it promises and even better. It is fully supported, free upgrades, supports AMSAT and yes, it is a satellite tracking radio and rotor control program that simply works! That's all. HRD gives you a shiny GUI and fails horrible on the satellite function, just to mention one failure....
Rest my case,
73 Stefan, VE4NSA
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
Paul, I am only giving my humble opinion here, but to answer your question of why I want to use HRD over SatPC32. After using both, my conclusions are that they are not even in the same class.
HRD is a one stop full integrated software suite for everything a ham could ever need. Logbook with synchronized web call lookup, digital mode module, satellite module, mapping that visually shows all your logbook contacts, rig control, remote access, rotor control, dual radio sync, built in solar cycle progression, DX cluster window, built in calendar, fully configurable user layouts throughout the entire suite.
SatPC32 is a satellite tracking program that has rig control via the sat window, and rotor control. It to me is quite clunky and has that old timey DOS look and feel.
Please, I don't want this to turn into a pi$$ing match. I am just trying to be as true to myself as I can. Me being a life long systems administrator and programmer have watched the upward progression of HRD over the years and have been in awe with everything Simon has accomplished. If what I'm hearing is that I just have to use SatPC32 for linear birds, then so be it. At the same time I am also hearing from many users that they only use SatPC32 or HRD just to track, but actually run their rigs by hand for the Doppler offset. So, maybe it's a moot point, I don't know?
I really want to thank you guys for all your input in making me a better operator.
Michael Vivona KC4ZVA Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
Even if you were to test it at AES, I doubt they have adequate antennas (and, even more importantly, feedline) set up for decent satellite reception, so it may not make a good test.
May I ask why you are so eager to use HRD for this purpose? An IC-9100 is probably the best satellite transceiver on the market and many hams use them very successfully as part of a fully computer controlled satellite station - with SatPC32.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner glasbrenner@mindspring.com wrote:
Repeated over a few high elevation passes, actually working stations. It
may work for you.
Don't get me wrong, I like HRD. I used it last night with my IC-910 to
work 2m Eskip remotely while out of town. However, I don't know a single active transponder op that uses it successfully. I invite them to step forward and speak up.
Myself, the response from HRD you got would give me significant pause.
On the other hand the author of SatPC32 is an active participant here, and has provided outstanding, even custom, support.
73, Drew KO4MA
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On Jun 24, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Mvivona Mvivona@yahoo.com wrote:
Thanks Andrew, OK, so the test would be for me to wait for a pass of an SSB bird like
FO-29. Let HRD take control of the transceiver, manually override till I hear my return. Then let HRD take over and see if it holds the Doppler offset lock for the entire pass. Is that the test Andrew?
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <
glasbrenner@mindspring.com> wrote:
In my case, from hearing a dozen+ ops try it on the air. The tuning
does not update the frequencies fast enough for use on SSB. In every case I've been involved with, switching to SatPC32 solved the problem. $45 for SatPC32 will make that $2500 radio sing on the transponders.
73, Drew KO4MA
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org
wrote:
I'm confused. How do you know it doesn't work if you don't know what
the issue is? Just sayin'.
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
The automatic Doppler control does not work properly. I've never tried it, so I'm not sure what the actual issue is.
SatPC32 is the way to go for computer control on the linear
transponders.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando) michael.vivona@wftv.com wrote:
I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and
linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my
laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in
advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
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Michael
My experience with HRD for linear birds got some different results than others have observed. - I found the Doppler tuning worked very well, I did test it side by side with SATPC32 as well as QSOs with others using SATPC32 and we tracked each other well. - I did like the user interface - I would recommend it for hf/Terrestrial operations
But... After a year or so of struggling with HRD for satellite operations, I am now a happy SatPC32 user.
Several reasons: HRD is focusing on their main products, HRD rig control and the logging software About halfway through the beta program they broke Doppler Tuning for PowerSDR/SmartSDR (Flex Radios) and it still doesn't work. Satellite Rig control for any radio I tried, TS2000 and IC9100 did not set TX/RX modes. I never could get IC9100 Satellite rig control working properly with it.
SatPC32 is not the most glamorous user interface, but is very feature rich, I am still learning new things about its' capabilities. SatPC32 was developed by an Amateur satellite expert who uses it for his own operations, its' functionality has evolved over many years based on many hours of operation by amateurs world-wide.
My $.02
Dave W0DHB
-----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando) Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:43 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it. I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
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I'll throw in 2 cents of my own based on my experiences as a newbie to the whole SAT communication world, I'm no expert.
First I started with an HT and an Arrow antenna just wanting to listen... naturally after a few short successful passes where I heard conversations I was hooked.
I already had HRD (latest version) that I used with my TS-590 so the SAT portion of it was a shoe in for me I thought. So I did my research and stepped up and bought a shiny new IC-9100. So here is where it all starts.
Hooked up the new IC9100 and started playing.. HRD would control the rig without issue, but it didn't put it in "SAT" mode when I was attempting to track a sat pass.. after several attempts I finally figured it out... mostly, it does track and control your rig "ok" with SATS like SO-50, but no tone control, attempted FO-29.. no go, it would control receive side but not the transmit side correctly.. more testing.. my ultimate goal here (being a newbie) was to have software control the rig so I could concentrate on the communication without having to deal with radio tuning as well (although the IC-9100 makes that very easy now that I have it figured out)..
Anyway, to make a long story short I got frustrated with HRD (keep in mind I'm using egg beaters with pre amps, no rotator control necessary), so I gave SATPC32 a shot.. As most have stated the learning curve it higher with SATPC32 however it does handle the IC-9100 SAT control quite well, puts the rig in SAT mode, tunes both receive and transmit sides correctly regardless of SAT mode (FM, linear inverting, etc).. it's not pretty but it works well..
So bottom line, to each his own... My suggestion is to do your research, check out all options and test.. then test some more, find what works for you.
My preference for SAT work is SATPC32 to control the rig, Heavens Above on my tablet to see what's coming...
Thanks
David, KK4QOE
-----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of David W0DHB Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:53 AM To: 'Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)'; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
Michael
My experience with HRD for linear birds got some different results than others have observed. - I found the Doppler tuning worked very well, I did test it side by side with SATPC32 as well as QSOs with others using SATPC32 and we tracked each other well. - I did like the user interface - I would recommend it for hf/Terrestrial operations
But... After a year or so of struggling with HRD for satellite operations, I am now a happy SatPC32 user.
Several reasons: HRD is focusing on their main products, HRD rig control and the logging software About halfway through the beta program they broke Doppler Tuning for PowerSDR/SmartSDR (Flex Radios) and it still doesn't work. Satellite Rig control for any radio I tried, TS2000 and IC9100 did not set TX/RX modes. I never could get IC9100 Satellite rig control working properly with it.
SatPC32 is not the most glamorous user interface, but is very feature rich, I am still learning new things about its' capabilities. SatPC32 was developed by an Amateur satellite expert who uses it for his own operations, its' functionality has evolved over many years based on many hours of operation by amateurs world-wide.
My $.02
Dave W0DHB
-----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando) Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:43 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it. I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
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OK, I just tried my first attempt on FO-29. I have done SO-50 FM with great success, but now it's on to the scary SSB bird. I was setup with dual IC7000, one for TX (VHF/LSB) and one for RX (UHF/LSB). The RX rig was being controlled by computer. During the pass I could hear someone calling. I adjusted the frequency just a little and he sounded nice a clear. I moved a little away from his freq and began to transmit to see if I could hear my return. Immediately heard my return, but no matter what I did could not get it to sound clear. It was real high pitched sounding. If I dialed it down it would start to get close to the right pitch, but then get so weak that I couldn't hear it. I was dialing my TX rig. Any thoughts?
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:55 AM, David dwarnberg@verizon.net wrote:
I'll throw in 2 cents of my own based on my experiences as a newbie to the whole SAT communication world, I'm no expert.
First I started with an HT and an Arrow antenna just wanting to listen... naturally after a few short successful passes where I heard conversations I was hooked.
I already had HRD (latest version) that I used with my TS-590 so the SAT portion of it was a shoe in for me I thought. So I did my research and stepped up and bought a shiny new IC-9100. So here is where it all starts.
Hooked up the new IC9100 and started playing.. HRD would control the rig without issue, but it didn't put it in "SAT" mode when I was attempting to track a sat pass.. after several attempts I finally figured it out... mostly, it does track and control your rig "ok" with SATS like SO-50, but no tone control, attempted FO-29.. no go, it would control receive side but not the transmit side correctly.. more testing.. my ultimate goal here (being a newbie) was to have software control the rig so I could concentrate on the communication without having to deal with radio tuning as well (although the IC-9100 makes that very easy now that I have it figured out)..
Anyway, to make a long story short I got frustrated with HRD (keep in mind I'm using egg beaters with pre amps, no rotator control necessary), so I gave SATPC32 a shot.. As most have stated the learning curve it higher with SATPC32 however it does handle the IC-9100 SAT control quite well, puts the rig in SAT mode, tunes both receive and transmit sides correctly regardless of SAT mode (FM, linear inverting, etc).. it's not pretty but it works well..
So bottom line, to each his own... My suggestion is to do your research, check out all options and test.. then test some more, find what works for you.
My preference for SAT work is SATPC32 to control the rig, Heavens Above on my tablet to see what's coming...
Thanks
David, KK4QOE
-----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of David W0DHB Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:53 AM To: 'Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)'; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
Michael
My experience with HRD for linear birds got some different results than others have observed. - I found the Doppler tuning worked very well, I did test it side by side with SATPC32 as well as QSOs with others using SATPC32 and we tracked each other well. - I did like the user interface - I would recommend it for hf/Terrestrial operations
But... After a year or so of struggling with HRD for satellite operations, I am now a happy SatPC32 user.
Several reasons: HRD is focusing on their main products, HRD rig control and the logging software About halfway through the beta program they broke Doppler Tuning for PowerSDR/SmartSDR (Flex Radios) and it still doesn't work. Satellite Rig control for any radio I tried, TS2000 and IC9100 did not set TX/RX modes. I never could get IC9100 Satellite rig control working properly with it.
SatPC32 is not the most glamorous user interface, but is very feature rich, I am still learning new things about its' capabilities. SatPC32 was developed by an Amateur satellite expert who uses it for his own operations, its' functionality has evolved over many years based on many hours of operation by amateurs world-wide.
My $.02
Dave W0DHB
-----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando) Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:43 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it. I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
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Ahhhh, I see I miss-typed. I was actually on LSB for the VHF side and USB on the UHF side. I will probably get a billion responses on the previous email. Ha.
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
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From: Mvivona via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: June 25, 2015 at 5:29:45 PM EDT To: "amsat-bb@amsat.org" amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] My first attempt on a linear bird Reply-To: Mvivona Mvivona@yahoo.com
OK, I just tried my first attempt on FO-29. I have done SO-50 FM with great success, but now it's on to the scary SSB bird. I was setup with dual IC7000, one for TX (VHF/LSB) and one for RX (UHF/LSB). The RX rig was being controlled by computer. During the pass I could hear someone calling. I adjusted the frequency just a little and he sounded nice a clear. I moved a little away from his freq and began to transmit to see if I could hear my return. Immediately heard my return, but no matter what I did could not get it to sound clear. It was real high pitched sounding. If I dialed it down it would start to get close to the right pitch, but then get so weak that I couldn't hear it. I was dialing my TX rig. Any thoughts?
Michael Vivona Sent from my iPad
On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:55 AM, David dwarnberg@verizon.net wrote:
I'll throw in 2 cents of my own based on my experiences as a newbie to the whole SAT communication world, I'm no expert.
First I started with an HT and an Arrow antenna just wanting to listen... naturally after a few short successful passes where I heard conversations I was hooked.
I already had HRD (latest version) that I used with my TS-590 so the SAT portion of it was a shoe in for me I thought. So I did my research and stepped up and bought a shiny new IC-9100. So here is where it all starts.
Hooked up the new IC9100 and started playing.. HRD would control the rig without issue, but it didn't put it in "SAT" mode when I was attempting to track a sat pass.. after several attempts I finally figured it out... mostly, it does track and control your rig "ok" with SATS like SO-50, but no tone control, attempted FO-29.. no go, it would control receive side but not the transmit side correctly.. more testing.. my ultimate goal here (being a newbie) was to have software control the rig so I could concentrate on the communication without having to deal with radio tuning as well (although the IC-9100 makes that very easy now that I have it figured out)..
Anyway, to make a long story short I got frustrated with HRD (keep in mind I'm using egg beaters with pre amps, no rotator control necessary), so I gave SATPC32 a shot.. As most have stated the learning curve it higher with SATPC32 however it does handle the IC-9100 SAT control quite well, puts the rig in SAT mode, tunes both receive and transmit sides correctly regardless of SAT mode (FM, linear inverting, etc).. it's not pretty but it works well..
So bottom line, to each his own... My suggestion is to do your research, check out all options and test.. then test some more, find what works for you.
My preference for SAT work is SATPC32 to control the rig, Heavens Above on my tablet to see what's coming...
Thanks
David, KK4QOE
-----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of David W0DHB Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:53 AM To: 'Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)'; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
Michael
My experience with HRD for linear birds got some different results than others have observed. - I found the Doppler tuning worked very well, I did test it side by side with SATPC32 as well as QSOs with others using SATPC32 and we tracked each other well. - I did like the user interface - I would recommend it for hf/Terrestrial operations
But... After a year or so of struggling with HRD for satellite operations, I am now a happy SatPC32 user.
Several reasons: HRD is focusing on their main products, HRD rig control and the logging software About halfway through the beta program they broke Doppler Tuning for PowerSDR/SmartSDR (Flex Radios) and it still doesn't work. Satellite Rig control for any radio I tried, TS2000 and IC9100 did not set TX/RX modes. I never could get IC9100 Satellite rig control working properly with it.
SatPC32 is not the most glamorous user interface, but is very feature rich, I am still learning new things about its' capabilities. SatPC32 was developed by an Amateur satellite expert who uses it for his own operations, its' functionality has evolved over many years based on many hours of operation by amateurs world-wide.
My $.02
Dave W0DHB
-----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando) Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:43 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds
I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds. Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it. I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person. I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for anyone that wants to jump in on this.
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Andrew Glasbrenner -
David -
David W0DHB -
Mvivona -
Paul Stoetzer -
Stefan Wagener -
Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL -
Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)