Hi Peter,NH6VB
I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E
To give Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt each other at the same time.
Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot.
Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV file bounced back to me.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Wagener" wageners@gmail.com To: "nh6vb Scheller" nh6vb@msn.com Cc: w9ae@charter.net; "amsat-bb" amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Thanks,
I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats.
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller nh6vb@msn.com wrote:
Stefan, With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO? I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say. But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot. De Peter, NH6VB
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500 From: wageners@gmail.com To: arskm9u@gmail.com CC: w9ae@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Thank you!!!!
I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs with the same access to the spectrum as all of us!
Stefan, VE4NSA
Now I understand! Why should we support AMSAT. I already have a cell phone. I could give you my number. We could set up a conference call. Everyone can talk and listen ...worldwide....and interrupt each other....for a lot less cost than putting up our own satellite. Better yet... there is the internet...Skype...complete with video. We can talk all over the world. Why should we spend money on our own satellites when somebody else has already paid the bill? No pile-ups, ...Problem solved. :-))
KM9U...just a fellow amateur wondering why. ;-))
-----Original Message----- From: i8cvs Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 21:54 To: AMSAT-BB ; nh6vb Scheller ; Stefan Wagener Cc: w9ae@charter.net Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Hi Peter,NH6VB
I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E
To give Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt each other at the same time.
Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot.
Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV file bounced back to me.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Wagener" wageners@gmail.com To: "nh6vb Scheller" nh6vb@msn.com Cc: w9ae@charter.net; "amsat-bb" amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Thanks,
I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats.
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller nh6vb@msn.com wrote:
Stefan, With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO? I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say. But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot. De Peter, NH6VB
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500 From: wageners@gmail.com To: arskm9u@gmail.com CC: w9ae@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Thank you!!!!
I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs with the same access to the spectrum as all of us!
Stefan, VE4NSA
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Hi Charles ,KM9U
There are two possible outcomes:
If you have a HEO satellite working with many transponders from the VHF to the K band like on AO40 you must became a microwave experimenter and this is the purpose of the Amateur Radio.
On the reverse side if you use only your cell phone or internet.....Skype you are not an Amateur Radio
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message ----- From: "KM9U" arskm9u@gmail.com To: "i8cvs" domenico.i8cvs@tin.it; "AMSAT-BB" amsat-bb@amsat.org; "nh6vb Scheller" nh6vb@msn.com; "Stefan Wagener" wageners@gmail.com Cc: w9ae@charter.net Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:35 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Now I understand! Why should we support AMSAT. I already have a cell phone. I could give you my number. We could set up a conference call. Everyone can talk and listen ...worldwide....and interrupt each other....for a lot less cost than putting up our own satellite. Better yet... there is the internet...Skype...complete with video. We can talk all over the world. Why should we spend money on our own satellites when somebody else has already paid the bill? No pile-ups,...Problem solved. :-))
KM9U...just a fellow amateur wondering why. ;-))
-----Original Message----- From: i8cvs Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 21:54 To: AMSAT-BB ; nh6vb Scheller ; Stefan Wagener Cc: w9ae@charter.net Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Hi Peter,NH6VB
I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E
To give Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt each other at the same time.
Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot.
Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV file bounced back to me.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Wagener" wageners@gmail.com To: "nh6vb Scheller" nh6vb@msn.com Cc: w9ae@charter.net; "amsat-bb" amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Thanks,
I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats.
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller nh6vb@msn.com wrote:
Stefan, With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO? I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say. But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot. De Peter, NH6VB
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500 From: wageners@gmail.com To: arskm9u@gmail.com CC: w9ae@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Thank you!!!!
I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs with the same access to the spectrum as all of us!
Stefan, VE4NSA
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i think i have a bunch of ao40 qso's on my website. http://www.amsatnet.com/audio.html
problem is you are dreaming of reliving a time in history when we were fortunate to have launches that were reasonably priced. today, we take what is free and if that means proliferation of cubesats and nonosats so be it.
if you are willing to pay for a heo launch, let your favorite amsat know and they will construct a heo for you to launch.
otherwise you should stop hampering the dreams and aspirations of those building launchable satellites today. history might repeat itself but not without a lot of money.
73...bruce
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:54 PM, "i8cvs" domenico.i8cvs@tin.it wrote:
Hi Peter,NH6VB
I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E
To give Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt each other at the same time.
Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot.
Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV file bounced back to me.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Wagener" wageners@gmail.com To: "nh6vb Scheller" nh6vb@msn.com Cc: w9ae@charter.net; "amsat-bb" amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Thanks,
I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats.
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller nh6vb@msn.com wrote:
Stefan, With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO? I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say. But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot. De Peter, NH6VB
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500 From: wageners@gmail.com To: arskm9u@gmail.com CC: w9ae@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Thank you!!!!
I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs with the same access to the spectrum as all of us!
Stefan, VE4NSA
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Hi Bruce,KK5DO
AMSAT-DL is working very hard on P3-E and P5-A and in the near future they will be able to launch P3-E
Work on P3-E is continuing and AMSAT-DL is busy looking for launch possibilities and other ways for financing it, i.e. on coat-tails of the P5 Mars Mission.
Indeed, P3-E is not a dream but a reality and AMSAT-DL need the support of the community.
There will only a P3-E, if we all really want it..
If you want to support P3-E, than please visit http://www.p3e-satellite.org/?lang=en_EN and make a direct donation to the project - THANKS!
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce" kk5do@amsat.org To: "i8cvs" domenico.i8cvs@tin.it; "amsat-bb" amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:36 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
i think i have a bunch of ao40 qso's on my website. http://www.amsatnet.com/audio.html
problem is you are dreaming of reliving a time in history when we were fortunate to have launches that were reasonably priced. today, we take what is free and if that means proliferation of cubesats and nonosats so be it.
if you are willing to pay for a heo launch, let your favorite amsat know and they will construct a heo for you to launch.
otherwise you should stop hampering the dreams and aspirations of those building launchable satellites today. history might repeat itself but not without a lot of money.
73...bruce
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:54 PM, "i8cvs" domenico.i8cvs@tin.it wrote:
Hi Peter,NH6VB
I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E
To give Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt each other at the same time.
Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot.
Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV file bounced back to me.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Wagener" wageners@gmail.com To: "nh6vb Scheller" nh6vb@msn.com Cc: w9ae@charter.net; "amsat-bb" amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Thanks,
I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats.
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller nh6vb@msn.com wrote:
Stefan, With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO? I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say. But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot. De Peter, NH6VB
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500 From: wageners@gmail.com To: arskm9u@gmail.com CC: w9ae@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Thank you!!!!
I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs with the same access to the spectrum as all of us!
Stefan, VE4NSA
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Sorry to disappoint you.
At this point AMSAT-DL has not been able to secure any funding to secure a launch (not even from their own government) and the rant against cubesats at the UK colloquium by has only hurt them even more.
Unless this community learns to work together and sees the benefits in all satellite programs and supports each other, we are only hurting ourselves. Why is so difficult to understand?
Stefn, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:11 PM, i8cvs domenico.i8cvs@tin.it wrote:
Hi Bruce,KK5DO
AMSAT-DL is working very hard on P3-E and P5-A and in the near future they will be able to launch P3-E
Work on P3-E is continuing and AMSAT-DL is busy looking for launch possibilities and other ways for financing it, i.e. on coat-tails of the P5 Mars Mission.
Indeed, P3-E is not a dream but a reality and AMSAT-DL need the support of the community.
There will only a P3-E, if we all really want it..
If you want to support P3-E, than please visit http://www.p3e-satellite.org/?lang=en_EN and make a direct donation to the project - THANKS!
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce" kk5do@amsat.org To: "i8cvs" domenico.i8cvs@tin.it; "amsat-bb" amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:36 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
i think i have a bunch of ao40 qso's on my website. http://www.amsatnet.com/audio.html
problem is you are dreaming of reliving a time in history when we were fortunate to have launches that were reasonably priced. today, we take what is free and if that means proliferation of cubesats and nonosats so be it.
if you are willing to pay for a heo launch, let your favorite amsat know and they will construct a heo for you to launch.
otherwise you should stop hampering the dreams and aspirations of those building launchable satellites today. history might repeat itself but not without a lot of money.
73...bruce
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:54 PM, "i8cvs" domenico.i8cvs@tin.it wrote:
Hi Peter,NH6VB
I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E
To give Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt each other at the same time.
Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot.
Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV file bounced back to me.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Wagener" wageners@gmail.com To: "nh6vb Scheller" nh6vb@msn.com Cc: w9ae@charter.net; "amsat-bb" amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Thanks,
I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats.
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller nh6vb@msn.com wrote:
Stefan, With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO? I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say. But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot. De Peter, NH6VB
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500 From: wageners@gmail.com To: arskm9u@gmail.com CC: w9ae@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
Thank you!!!!
I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs with the same access to the spectrum as all of us!
Stefan, VE4NSA
Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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