Trying to find my downlink
I have an IC-9100 using MacDoppler and hooked up to two home-brew Eggbeater II antennas. I have had a lot of trouble finding my downlink on pretty much all of the SSB satellites that I have tried; AO-7, FO-29, AO-73 and the XWs (2A, 2C and 2F). Does anyone have suggestions, strategies for finding the downlink (so I don’t wind up annoying everyone else by uselessly transmitting). Thanks. Phil Chimento kc3cnx@arrl.net
On 7/18/16, Philip Chimento vze275m9@verizon.net wrote:
I have an IC-9100 using MacDoppler and hooked up to two home-brew Eggbeater II antennas. I have had a lot of trouble finding my downlink on pretty much all of the SSB satellites that I have tried; AO-7, FO-29, AO-73 and the XWs (2A, 2C and 2F). Does anyone have suggestions, strategies for finding the downlink (so I don’t wind up annoying everyone else by uselessly transmitting).
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I've got the same problem. I first set my software (in my case, Gpredict on Linux) to mid-band. If there isn't anyone on frequency, I start looking for my downlink. If there is someone, though, I move further up in the band so that I'm out of the way and won't cause any interference.
I keep the uplink frequency steady and adjust my downlink. For me, the trick is finding what the offset from the nominal value is. On a new satellite, I start there and move up (or down, whichever the case may be) slowly. On ones I've been on before, I start at the approximate offset.
I simply speak into my mike and announce who I am and the purpose for my transmission until I find my signal. I usually find it in a minute or two.
I have to do it that way as I need to set up my station outside and I have only two hands. I hold my antenna with one and my PTT switch with the other, keeping a finger or two free so that I can adjust my software setting. Operating a Morse key might be a touch difficult when my hands are already full.
This has worked for me so far and I haven't yet figured out a way to make it quicker or easier.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
First off, I'd suggest using CW to find downlink. It is much easier to find that than a weak voice signal. Do as Bernhard suggests and set your RX to the middle of the downlink passband, then adjust your TX until you find yourself.
FO-29 and the three XWs have fairly predictable input/output offfsets, so once you figure it out, you only need to adjust for doppler.
AO-73 is an entirely different thing -- the uplink frequency for AO-73 is about 10-15 KHz HIGHER than the published values as the uplink frequency varies with spacecraft temperature, so what works on one orbit might not work on another, but again, it will get you close (you'll be tuning your uplink +/- 2 KHz to find yourself).
FO-29 is your best bet to begin. VERY sensitive receiver, longer orbit window, stable, etc.
Once you figure out your offset, MacDoppler should do a good job for everything but AO-73, and Funcube2.
73, Bob, WB4SON
On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 1:34 PM, B J va6bmj@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/18/16, Philip Chimento vze275m9@verizon.net wrote:
I have an IC-9100 using MacDoppler and hooked up to two home-brew
Eggbeater
II antennas. I have had a lot of trouble finding my downlink on pretty
much
all of the SSB satellites that I have tried; AO-7, FO-29, AO-73 and the
XWs
(2A, 2C and 2F). Does anyone have suggestions, strategies for finding the downlink (so I don’t wind up annoying everyone else by uselessly transmitting).
<snip>
I've got the same problem. I first set my software (in my case, Gpredict on Linux) to mid-band. If there isn't anyone on frequency, I start looking for my downlink. If there is someone, though, I move further up in the band so that I'm out of the way and won't cause any interference.
I keep the uplink frequency steady and adjust my downlink. For me, the trick is finding what the offset from the nominal value is. On a new satellite, I start there and move up (or down, whichever the case may be) slowly. On ones I've been on before, I start at the approximate offset.
I simply speak into my mike and announce who I am and the purpose for my transmission until I find my signal. I usually find it in a minute or two.
I have to do it that way as I need to set up my station outside and I have only two hands. I hold my antenna with one and my PTT switch with the other, keeping a finger or two free so that I can adjust my software setting. Operating a Morse key might be a touch difficult when my hands are already full.
This has worked for me so far and I haven't yet figured out a way to make it quicker or easier.
73s
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On 7/18/2016 09:43, Philip Chimento wrote:
I have an IC-9100 using MacDoppler and hooked up to two home-brew Eggbeater II antennas. I have had a lot of trouble finding my downlink on pretty much all of the SSB satellites that I have tried; AO-7, FO-29, AO-73 and the XWs (2A, 2C and 2F). Does anyone have suggestions, strategies for finding the downlink (so I don’t wind up annoying everyone else by uselessly transmitting).
An eggbeater is a pretty marginal receive antenna for the linear satellites. Do you at least have a preamp at the receive antenna?
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