Attempting full-duplex as a best practice is agreeable but is certainly a different animal than making it MANDATORY. Sounds like the folks in my CW club who post on the sked page "QRO ONLY" or the folks who think everybody must be able to do 20 wpm before they put a dit on the air. Let's keep it a hobby, help and encourage newcomers, and not block folks from trying things by setting unnecessarily high bars to entry.Steve AI9IN

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone-------- Original message --------From: mvivona--- via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: 6/26/2016 7:34 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Michael Mat_62@charter.net, amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations I humbly agree with you Michael. Even though I do understand that some Hams can not afford a second radio, the swarms of cheap radios on the market lately has pretty much alleviated that issue.Maybe it's not always possible, but attempting full duplex is not only better practice, but is a very gratifying challenge to anyone that hears what the have been missing.

I give you a thumbs up sir.  KC4ZVA

From: Michael Mat_62@charter.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations    It sure would be nice if you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory" for working sats.  It absolutely should be MANDATORY. Having full duplex should be stated as rule # 1 of operating on a satellite regardless of which  one it is and what mode you are operating. Not using full duplex results in needless interference and frustration. Just my humble opinion. 73, Michael, W4HIJ On 6/26/2016 2:49 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:

ARRL instructor and ARISS / AMSAT-NA / AMSAT-UK supporter Clint Bradford, K6LCS, will be presenting his 84th and 85th satellite presentations in September.

"I have no idea how I have "missed" the Downey (CA) Amateur Radio Club," Clint writes. "They are long-time ARRL supporters, and have been serving their region well for more than FIFTY years."

"The Victor Valley (CA) ARC is another story. This will be my fourth show for them these past ten years. I suppose I will have to change some of the bad jokes that are interspersed throughout the presentation ... "

Attendees will be shown EVERYTHING needed to work the FM voice ham satellites – with a re-occurring theme of, “Most hams already have most of the necessary equipment … ” Attendees can download a four-page tutorial beforehand at …

http://www.work-sat.com

… and Clint welcomes pre-presentation questions. Call him at 909-999-SATS (909-999-7287), or send email to clint@clintbradford.com .

Not in the Southern California region - but would like your club to experience an hour-long educational and entertaining presentation on working the FM birds? Send me an email - I will bring the show to your club!

Thursday, September 1, 2016, 7:30 PM Downey Amateur Radio Club First Baptist Church, Room 120, in Downey, California. The church is between 2nd and 3rd streets, at 8348 E. 3rd St. Use 2nd St, East from Downey Ave (one block north of Firestone Blvd.) adjacent to City Hall. Entrance via double glass doors on the north side of 2nd St.

Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 7:00 PM Sitting Bull Academy Library, 19445 Sitting Bull Road, Apple Valley. CA.

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