Hi all,
I was just looking over the VUCC award application and noticed that they now charge 20 cents per QSO. Is this fee only applicable if cards are sent to HQ for submission or in general even if you take them to a card checker? Thanks in advance!
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
Hi Jeff,
After you mentioned that, I went and took a look at the VUCC application (http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Awards/VUCC%20App%202011.pdf) and sure enough it says, "enclose 20 cents per QSO" (bottom of page). So, you send $12 for postage to get your award mailed to you, $7 for ARRL members or $12 for non-members for the award, 20 cents/QSO, and you also need to send along sufficient postage to get your QSL cards returned to you if you mail them to a card checker. I don't remember paying that much when I got mine. I wonder if this applies to endorsements??
73!
Zack KD8KSN
-----Original Message----- From: Jeff Yanko Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:11 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC QSO costs
Hi all,
I was just looking over the VUCC award application and noticed that they now charge 20 cents per QSO. Is this fee only applicable if cards are sent to HQ for submission or in general even if you take them to a card checker? Thanks in advance!
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
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Hi Zack and all,
From the way I read it, it applies to the initial application as well as
endorsements. It doesn't descriminate between them.
BTW, for those looking and wondering as well. It states "20 cents per QSO", not "20 cents per grid". So if you have a QSO with multiple grids, say 2 grids or 4 grids, it still only cost 20 cents. Don't count the grids as a single QSO, unless the QSO was with a single grid. It'll save yourself a few cents.
From the looks of it, my initial application could cost me nearly $50.
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
----- Original Message ----- From: "Zachary Beougher" zack.kd8ksn@hotmail.com To: "Jeff Yanko" wb3jfs@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 4:45 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] VUCC QSO costs
Hi Jeff,
After you mentioned that, I went and took a look at the VUCC application (http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Awards/VUCC%20App%202011.pdf) and sure enough it says, "enclose 20 cents per QSO" (bottom of page). So, you send $12 for postage to get your award mailed to you, $7 for ARRL members or $12 for non-members for the award, 20 cents/QSO, and you also need to send along sufficient postage to get your QSL cards returned to you if you mail them to a card checker. I don't remember paying that much when I got mine. I wonder if this applies to endorsements??
73!
Zack KD8KSN
-----Original Message----- From: Jeff Yanko Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:11 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC QSO costs
Hi all,
I was just looking over the VUCC award application and noticed that they now charge 20 cents per QSO. Is this fee only applicable if cards are sent to HQ for submission or in general even if you take them to a card checker? Thanks in advance!
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
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Hi Jeff and the BB,
I just found both applications on the ARRL website. (the old form, date 2009, and the new form, date Jan. 2011) see following website:
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Awards/VUCC%20App%202011.pdf
It looks like instead of a flat $10 fee, they now have gone to multiple fees for postage, the application and number of contacts. If I'm comprehending this correctly, if you apply for additional VUCC sticker, in the US and a ARRL member, and turn in 60 cards, it would cost you the following:
$1 postage, $7 application fee, and $.20 x 60 = $12 for a total of $20.00
Is this correct? I welcome all replies, if not.
73 all,
Rick WA4NVM
Hi all,
I was just looking over the VUCC award application and noticed that they now charge 20 cents per QSO. Is this fee only applicable if cards are sent to HQ for submission or in general even if you take them to a card checker? Thanks in advance!
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
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Sounds like to me all the better to find a Card Checker in your area before sending anything to ARRL. Save on postage, etc. Hopefully the Card Checker wont want his cut too now? Sign of the times, it looks like to me...
John W6ZKH #37184
________________________________ From: Rick - WA4NVM wa4nvm@comcast.net To: Jeff Yanko wb3jfs@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 4:54:02 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs
Hi Jeff and the BB,
I just found both applications on the ARRL website. (the old form, date 2009, and the new form, date Jan. 2011) see following website:
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Awards/VUCC%20App%202011.pdf
It looks like instead of a flat $10 fee, they now have gone to multiple fees for postage, the application and number of contacts. If I'm comprehending this correctly, if you apply for additional VUCC sticker, in the US and a ARRL member, and turn in 60 cards, it would cost you the following:
$1 postage, $7 application fee, and $.20 x 60 = $12 for a total of $20.00
Is this correct? I welcome all replies, if not.
73 all,
Rick WA4NVM
Hi all,
I was just looking over the VUCC award application and noticed that they now charge 20 cents per QSO. Is this fee only applicable if cards are sent to HQ for submission or in general even if you take them to a card checker? Thanks in advance!
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
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Do you need to pay the card checker the $.20/QSO, or is that only if you send them directly to ARRL??
I agree with Rick - the wording is not very clear.
Zack KD8KSN
-----Original Message----- From: John Neeley Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:07 AM To: Rick - WA4NVM ; Jeff Yanko ; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs
Sounds like to me all the better to find a Card Checker in your area before sending anything to ARRL. Save on postage, etc. Hopefully the Card Checker wont want his cut too now? Sign of the times, it looks like to me...
John W6ZKH #37184
________________________________ From: Rick - WA4NVM wa4nvm@comcast.net To: Jeff Yanko wb3jfs@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 4:54:02 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs
Hi Jeff and the BB,
I just found both applications on the ARRL website. (the old form, date 2009, and the new form, date Jan. 2011) see following website:
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Awards/VUCC%20App%202011.pdf
It looks like instead of a flat $10 fee, they now have gone to multiple fees for postage, the application and number of contacts. If I'm comprehending this correctly, if you apply for additional VUCC sticker, in the US and a ARRL member, and turn in 60 cards, it would cost you the following:
$1 postage, $7 application fee, and $.20 x 60 = $12 for a total of $20.00
Is this correct? I welcome all replies, if not.
73 all,
Rick WA4NVM
Hi all,
I was just looking over the VUCC award application and noticed that they now charge 20 cents per QSO. Is this fee only applicable if cards are sent to HQ for submission or in general even if you take them to a card checker? Thanks in advance!
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
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no, if you take or send your cards to an arrl awards manager (i am one for vucc, was and 5bwas), you do not pay anything other than a check to the arrl for the cost of your award plus the postage to return your cards to you (if you did not take them in person). we are not allowed to accept any fee for checking cards, we volunteer to do this for other hams. i became an awards manager long ago when there was none in houston and i had to send my cards to san antonio. i have checked many a card since then.
73...bruce
________________________________ From: Zachary Beougher zack.kd8ksn@hotmail.com To: John Neeley w6zkh@att.net; Rick - WA4NVM wa4nvm@comcast.net; Jeff Yanko wb3jfs@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 8:38:51 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs
Do you need to pay the card checker the $.20/QSO, or is that only if you send them directly to ARRL??
I agree with Rick - the wording is not very clear.
Zack KD8KSN
-----Original Message----- From: John Neeley Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:07 AM To: Rick - WA4NVM ; Jeff Yanko ; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs
Sounds like to me all the better to find a Card Checker in your area before sending anything to ARRL. Save on postage, etc. Hopefully the Card Checker wont want his cut too now? Sign of the times, it looks like to me...
John W6ZKH #37184
________________________________ From: Rick - WA4NVM wa4nvm@comcast.net To: Jeff Yanko wb3jfs@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 4:54:02 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs
Hi Jeff and the BB,
I just found both applications on the ARRL website. (the old form, date 2009, and the new form, date Jan. 2011) see following website:
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Awards/VUCC%20App%202011.pdf
It looks like instead of a flat $10 fee, they now have gone to multiple fees for postage, the application and number of contacts. If I'm comprehending this correctly, if you apply for additional VUCC sticker, in the US and a ARRL member, and turn in 60 cards, it would cost you the following:
$1 postage, $7 application fee, and $.20 x 60 = $12 for a total of $20.00
Is this correct? I welcome all replies, if not.
73 all,
Rick WA4NVM
Hi all,
I was just looking over the VUCC award application and noticed that they now charge 20 cents per QSO. Is this fee only applicable if cards are sent to HQ for submission or in general even if you take them to a card checker? Thanks in advance!
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
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Bruce is the best, and very timely.......appreciate all that he does in working as a volunteer card checker and awards manager for Amsat...
John W6ZKH
________________________________ From: Bruce Paige kk5do@att.net To: Zachary Beougher zack.kd8ksn@hotmail.com; John Neeley w6zkh@att.net; Rick - WA4NVM wa4nvm@comcast.net; Jeff Yanko wb3jfs@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 7:58:40 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs
no, if you take or send your cards to an arrl awards manager (i am one for vucc, was and 5bwas), you do not pay anything other than a check to the arrl for the cost of your award plus the postage to return your cards to you (if you did not take them in person). we are not allowed to accept any fee for checking cards, we volunteer to do this for other hams. i became an awards manager long ago when there was none in houston and i had to send my cards to san antonio. i have checked many a card since then.
73...bruce
________________________________ From: Zachary Beougher zack.kd8ksn@hotmail.com To: John Neeley w6zkh@att.net; Rick - WA4NVM wa4nvm@comcast.net; Jeff Yanko wb3jfs@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 8:38:51 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs
Do you need to pay the card checker the $.20/QSO, or is that only if you send them directly to ARRL??
I agree with Rick - the wording is not very clear.
Zack KD8KSN
-----Original Message----- From: John Neeley Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:07 AM To: Rick - WA4NVM ; Jeff Yanko ; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs
Sounds like to me all the better to find a Card Checker in your area before sending anything to ARRL. Save on postage, etc. Hopefully the Card Checker wont want his cut too now? Sign of the times, it looks like to me...
John W6ZKH #37184
________________________________ From: Rick - WA4NVM wa4nvm@comcast.net To: Jeff Yanko wb3jfs@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 4:54:02 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs
Hi Jeff and the BB,
I just found both applications on the ARRL website. (the old form, date 2009, and the new form, date Jan. 2011) see following website:
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Awards/VUCC%20App%202011.pdf
It looks like instead of a flat $10 fee, they now have gone to multiple fees for postage, the application and number of contacts. If I'm comprehending this correctly, if you apply for additional VUCC sticker, in the US and a ARRL member, and turn in 60 cards, it would cost you the following:
$1 postage, $7 application fee, and $.20 x 60 = $12 for a total of $20.00
Is this correct? I welcome all replies, if not.
73 all,
Rick WA4NVM
Hi all,
I was just looking over the VUCC award application and noticed that they now charge 20 cents per QSO. Is this fee only applicable if cards are sent to HQ for submission or in general even if you take them to a card checker? Thanks in advance!
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
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Hi John and all,
From what I recall with the old VUCC application it was discouraged to send
cards to HQ and to use local card checkers for VUCC. With the new application it seems like they will accept cards at HQ for VUCC but there is a cost. However, it doesn't state what to do if you take them to a card checker? On Thursday, I had sent an e-mail to Bill Moore, head of the awards division at ARRL HQ, and haven't receive a reply back as of Saturday morning. In any case, we'll find out sooner or later.
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
----- Original Message ----- From: "Zachary Beougher" zack.kd8ksn@hotmail.com To: "John Neeley" w6zkh@att.net; "Rick - WA4NVM" wa4nvm@comcast.net; "Jeff Yanko" wb3jfs@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs
Do you need to pay the card checker the $.20/QSO, or is that only if you send them directly to ARRL??
I agree with Rick - the wording is not very clear.
Zack KD8KSN
-----Original Message----- From: John Neeley Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:07 AM To: Rick - WA4NVM ; Jeff Yanko ; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs
Sounds like to me all the better to find a Card Checker in your area before sending anything to ARRL. Save on postage, etc. Hopefully the Card Checker wont want his cut too now? Sign of the times, it looks like to me...
John W6ZKH #37184
From: Rick - WA4NVM wa4nvm@comcast.net To: Jeff Yanko wb3jfs@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 4:54:02 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC QSO costs
Hi Jeff and the BB,
I just found both applications on the ARRL website. (the old form, date 2009, and the new form, date Jan. 2011) see following website:
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Awards/VUCC%20App%202011.pdf
It looks like instead of a flat $10 fee, they now have gone to multiple fees for postage, the application and number of contacts. If I'm comprehending this correctly, if you apply for additional VUCC sticker, in the US and a ARRL member, and turn in 60 cards, it would cost you the following:
$1 postage, $7 application fee, and $.20 x 60 = $12 for a total of $20.00
Is this correct? I welcome all replies, if not.
73 all,
Rick WA4NVM
Hi all,
I was just looking over the VUCC award application and noticed that they now charge 20 cents per QSO. Is this fee only applicable if cards are sent to HQ for submission or in general even if you take them to a card checker? Thanks in advance!
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
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Although I already have VUCC satellite (#200 wow!), for those that don't yet what happens when you have enough confirmed grids via both paper cards and LoTW?
Will card checkers go to the trouble of looking at your LoTW account and compare them to the paper cards, or should the paper cards go to ARRL for credit towards VUCC?
73 de Sebastian, W4AS
On Jan 22, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Jeff Yanko wrote:
Hi John and all,
From what I recall with the old VUCC application it was discouraged to send
cards to HQ and to use local card checkers for VUCC. With the new application it seems like they will accept cards at HQ for VUCC but there is a cost. However, it doesn't state what to do if you take them to a card checker? On Thursday, I had sent an e-mail to Bill Moore, head of the awards division at ARRL HQ, and haven't receive a reply back as of Saturday morning. In any case, we'll find out sooner or later.
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
as i am an arrl awards manager, i have sent an email to my contact at the league to clarify all this.
no... we do not have access to anyones lotw account. if you present cards to me, i will check those cards. all lotw qso's must be checked by the arrl.
73...bruce
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On Jan 22, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Sebastian w4as@bellsouth.net wrote:
Although I already have VUCC satellite (#200 wow!), for those that don't yet what happens when you have enough confirmed grids via both paper cards and LoTW?
Will card checkers go to the trouble of looking at your LoTW account and compare them to the paper cards, or should the paper cards go to ARRL for credit towards VUCC?
73 de Sebastian, W4AS
On Jan 22, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Jeff Yanko wrote:
Hi John and all,
From what I recall with the old VUCC application it was discouraged to send
cards to HQ and to use local card checkers for VUCC. With the new application it seems like they will accept cards at HQ for VUCC but there is a cost. However, it doesn't state what to do if you take them to a card checker? On Thursday, I had sent an e-mail to Bill Moore, head of the awards division at ARRL HQ, and haven't receive a reply back as of Saturday morning. In any case, we'll find out sooner or later.
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
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Hi Rick,
That's the way I'm interpreting it as well. For me, my fees would add up to nearly $50 for my initial application.
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick - WA4NVM" wa4nvm@comcast.net To: "Jeff Yanko" wb3jfs@cox.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] VUCC QSO costs
Hi Jeff and the BB,
I just found both applications on the ARRL website. (the old form, date 2009, and the new form, date Jan. 2011) see following website:
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Awards/VUCC%20App%202011.pdf
It looks like instead of a flat $10 fee, they now have gone to multiple fees for postage, the application and number of contacts. If I'm comprehending this correctly, if you apply for additional VUCC sticker, in the US and a ARRL member, and turn in 60 cards, it would cost you the following:
$1 postage, $7 application fee, and $.20 x 60 = $12 for a total of $20.00
Is this correct? I welcome all replies, if not.
73 all,
Rick WA4NVM
Hi all,
I was just looking over the VUCC award application and noticed that they now charge 20 cents per QSO. Is this fee only applicable if cards are sent to HQ for submission or in general even if you take them to a card checker? Thanks in advance!
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
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Hi again Jeff,
Just a follow up on previous post. Look at line #3 of the application. Maybe they don't charge this fee IF your in the US. Really not clear on the wording.
73,
Rick WA4NVM
Hi all,
I was just looking over the VUCC award application and noticed that they now charge 20 cents per QSO. Is this fee only applicable if cards are sent to HQ for submission or in general even if you take them to a card checker? Thanks in advance!
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
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