I could use a little help. I'm trying to get an idea of which countries permit third party traffic (communications by an unlicensed person while under the control of a licensed operator). It would appear that the full gambit exists. Some countries do not permit third party with any unlicensed individual. Some countries permit just a select list of countries that they have agreements with and others permit third party traffic with anyone (as long as the other party's country does not prohibit). So, could a few kind souls answer these questions to with accurate information about various countries regulations?
1. Does your country permit third party traffic between stations within your country?
2. Does your country permit third party traffic between your station and a station outside your country?
2a. If so, which ones?
3. Does your country have a link to the regulation regarding third party traffic (please provide)?
For example, the answers for the USA would be: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Yes
2. Yes (just specific countries)
2a. Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Australia, Belize, Bolivia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Federal Islamic Republic of Comoros, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, The Gambia, Ghana, Grenada, Guatemala, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Israel, Jamaica, Jordan, Liberia, Republic of the Marshall Islands, Mexico, Federated States of Micronesia, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, St. Christopher and Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Sierra Leone, South Africa, Swaziland, Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, United Kingdom (special event stations with call sign prefix GB followed by a number other than 3), Uruguay, and Venezuela. The United Nations also has arrangements with the United States to permit an amateur station regulated by the FCC to exchange messages for a third party with amateur stations 4U1ITU in Geneva, Switzerland, and 4U1VIC in Vienna, Austria
3. http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=about_2&id=amateur#Third% 20Party%20Communications -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of particular interest are countries that do not prohibit third party at all (like Canada and New Zealand). I'd like to compile a list of these countries in addition to identifying countries that do permit third party traffic with agreements and possibly try to add more countries to their list. This could be very helpful when supporting education events where unlicensed kids might participate.
Kenneth - N5VHO
On 17 Oct 2006 at 15:59, Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[B wrote:
- Does your country permit third party traffic between stations within
your country?
- Does your country permit third party traffic between your station and
a station outside your country?
2a. If so, which ones?
- Does your country have a link to the regulation regarding third party
traffic (please provide)?
In Canada Why making simple things over complicated?
6. Communications on behalf of Third Parties
International third-party communication in case of emergencies or disaster relief is expressly permitted unless specifically prohibited by a foreign administration.
Any foreign administration may permit its amateur stations to communicate on behalf of third parties without having to enter into any special arrangements with Canada.
Canada does not prohibit international communications on behalf of third parties.
We have to assume the other station operator conducting a third parties QSO is fully aware of his/her country restrictions regarding third parties traffic.
Just to pointed out this peculiar rules section:
3. Frequency Bands and Qualifications An operator of an amateur station may operate within the frequency bands set out in the attached Schedules I, II and III in accordance with the operator´s qualifications identified for the specified band.
And the schedules only mentioned Frequency Band Maximum bandwidth Operating provisions Operator qualifications
There is no sub band allocation or mode/modulation restriction. It's a free for all but our national and provincial associations ask we respect the old modulation sub bands allocation...But it is only suggested to avoid interfering with our next neighbours and other DX country.
Can i pointed out how silly theses call sign struggle on ISS can appears down here...but we respect the right to be silly even in space... Ridicule is even present in space.
Why not choosing a neutral international space station call sign as ISS-1 easy, simple and mature amateur operator will have to set aside their "nationalism"... But the hard part to find is maturity...
I don't know if they will have to use different toilet paper brand depending in which module they will read their news papers... as we all know money have no odours!
"-" The medium is the message...The content is the audience...;)
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE WAC basic,CW,Phone,Satellite Skype VE2DWE www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
Thanks to all that have responded. I have links regarding third party for the following countries. Any more?
Country - Link
Australia - http://www.acma.gov.au/ACMAINTER.852114:STANDARD::pc=PC_1255 Bangladesh - http://www.barl.org/assets/DocuImages/amateur-licence-conditions.pdf Bermuda - http://www.bermudashorts.bm/rsb/class3r.htm#Third_Party_communications Canada - http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/insmt-gst.nsf/en/sf01226e.html#c omm Germany - http://bundesrecht.juris.de/afug_1997/__5.html New Zealand - http://www.rsm.govt.nz/licensing/gurls/gurl-amateur.html United States - http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=about_2&id=amateur#Third% 20Party%20Communications
Kenneth - N5VHO
-----Original Message----- From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:59 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Third Party questionnaire
I could use a little help. I'm trying to get an idea of which countries permit third party traffic (communications by an unlicensed person while under the control of a licensed operator). It would appear that the full gambit exists. Some countries do not permit third party with any unlicensed individual. Some countries permit just a select list of countries that they have agreements with and others permit third party traffic with anyone (as long as the other party's country does not prohibit). So, could a few kind souls answer these questions to with accurate information about various countries regulations?
1. Does your country permit third party traffic between stations within your country?
2. Does your country permit third party traffic between your station and a station outside your country?
2a. If so, which ones?
3. Does your country have a link to the regulation regarding third party traffic (please provide)?
For example, the answers for the USA would be: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Yes
2. Yes (just specific countries)
2a. Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Australia, Belize, Bolivia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Federal Islamic Republic of Comoros, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, The Gambia, Ghana, Grenada, Guatemala, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Israel, Jamaica, Jordan, Liberia, Republic of the Marshall Islands, Mexico, Federated States of Micronesia, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, St. Christopher and Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Sierra Leone, South Africa, Swaziland, Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, United Kingdom (special event stations with call sign prefix GB followed by a number other than 3), Uruguay, and Venezuela. The United Nations also has arrangements with the United States to permit an amateur station regulated by the FCC to exchange messages for a third party with amateur stations 4U1ITU in Geneva, Switzerland, and 4U1VIC in Vienna, Austria
3. http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=about_2&id=amateur#Third% 20Party%20Communications -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of particular interest are countries that do not prohibit third party at all (like Canada and New Zealand). I'd like to compile a list of these countries in addition to identifying countries that do permit third party traffic with agreements and possibly try to add more countries to their list. This could be very helpful when supporting education events where unlicensed kids might participate.
Kenneth - N5VHO
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