![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/128e9aa6c7be02bd02944b72e0ee138e.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
Hi
I mentioned in an earlier email today that I'm doing a Sat 101 lecture for a ham club.
Just putting the finishing touches on the presentation, and I have a question....
I'm displaying a picture of AO-13 (my first sat QSO was on that bird) to contrast it with a picture of the the cubesats of today
The only dimensions I'm finding for AO-13 are 600 x 40 x 200 mm...this seems awfully small for a 92 Kg (plus another 30Kg for fuel) weight. (23.6 inches x 1.6 inches x 7.8 inches).
Were these dimensions actually in centimeters. and not millimeters?
Thanks
Philip N4HF
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/5712ae1058da6e45b63ffbac77d35e75.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
I can't find the precise dimensions. but here's a photo of the satellite structure being worked on:
https://n4hy.smugmug.com/AMSAT/AO-13/02-Structure/i-6jBxrP2/A
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Philip Jenkins [email protected] wrote:
Hi
I mentioned in an earlier email today that I'm doing a Sat 101 lecture for a ham club.
Just putting the finishing touches on the presentation, and I have a question....
I'm displaying a picture of AO-13 (my first sat QSO was on that bird) to contrast it with a picture of the the cubesats of today
The only dimensions I'm finding for AO-13 are 600 x 40 x 200 mm...this seems awfully small for a 92 Kg (plus another 30Kg for fuel) weight. (23.6 inches x 1.6 inches x 7.8 inches).
Were these dimensions actually in centimeters. and not millimeters?
Thanks
Philip N4HF _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/128e9aa6c7be02bd02944b72e0ee138e.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
That is definitely larger than 600mm (~23 inches) in the largest dimension) and more than 40mm in the smallest one, so I'm guessing that "mm" is a misprint in the only source I'm finding - http://www.om3ktr.sk/druzice/ao13.html - and should actually be "cm".
Thanks Paul
Philip
On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Paul Stoetzer [email protected] wrote:
I can't find the precise dimensions. but here's a photo of the satellite structure being worked on:
https://n4hy.smugmug.com/AMSAT/AO-13/02-Structure/i-6jBxrP2/A
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Philip Jenkins [email protected] wrote:
Hi
I mentioned in an earlier email today that I'm doing a Sat 101 lecture for a ham club.
Just putting the finishing touches on the presentation, and I have a question....
I'm displaying a picture of AO-13 (my first sat QSO was on that bird) to contrast it with a picture of the the cubesats of today
The only dimensions I'm finding for AO-13 are 600 x 40 x 200 mm...this seems awfully small for a 92 Kg (plus another 30Kg for fuel) weight. (23.6 inches x 1.6 inches x 7.8 inches).
Were these dimensions actually in centimeters. and not millimeters?
Thanks
Philip N4HF _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/128e9aa6c7be02bd02944b72e0ee138e.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
Well, "cm" doesn't seem right either. 600 cm is nearly 20 feet, as WB4APR just emailed to me (thanks Bob)
Getting the correct dimensions is not a big deal...as I said, just using a pic of AO-13 to contrast with that of a cubesat
Thanks for the help
N4HF
On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Philip Jenkins [email protected] wrote:
That is definitely larger than 600mm (~23 inches) in the largest dimension) and more than 40mm in the smallest one, so I'm guessing that "mm" is a misprint in the only source I'm finding - http://www.om3ktr.sk/druzice/ao13.html - and should actually be "cm".
Thanks Paul
Philip
On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Paul Stoetzer [email protected] wrote:
I can't find the precise dimensions. but here's a photo of the satellite structure being worked on:
https://n4hy.smugmug.com/AMSAT/AO-13/02-Structure/i-6jBxrP2/A
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Philip Jenkins [email protected] wrote:
Hi
I mentioned in an earlier email today that I'm doing a Sat 101 lecture for a ham club.
Just putting the finishing touches on the presentation, and I have a question....
I'm displaying a picture of AO-13 (my first sat QSO was on that bird) to contrast it with a picture of the the cubesats of today
The only dimensions I'm finding for AO-13 are 600 x 40 x 200 mm...this seems awfully small for a 92 Kg (plus another 30Kg for fuel) weight. (23.6 inches x 1.6 inches x 7.8 inches).
Were these dimensions actually in centimeters. and not millimeters?
Thanks
Philip N4HF _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/e569f1b68634f659f0e277ccbb457a81.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
These two pic's should help. http://ww2.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/A0-13-009.jpg https://www.p3e-satellite.org/en_EN/images/ao_13.jpg
Looking at the one picture the 600 millimeters looks close. Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 6/4/2017 10:09 AM, Philip Jenkins wrote:
Well, "cm" doesn't seem right either. 600 cm is nearly 20 feet, as WB4APR just emailed to me (thanks Bob)
Getting the correct dimensions is not a big deal...as I said, just using a pic of AO-13 to contrast with that of a cubesat
Thanks for the help
N4HF
On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Philip Jenkins [email protected] wrote:
That is definitely larger than 600mm (~23 inches) in the largest dimension) and more than 40mm in the smallest one, so I'm guessing that "mm" is a misprint in the only source I'm finding - http://www.om3ktr.sk/druzice/ao13.html - and should actually be "cm".
Thanks Paul
Philip
On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Paul Stoetzer [email protected] wrote:
I can't find the precise dimensions. but here's a photo of the satellite structure being worked on:
https://n4hy.smugmug.com/AMSAT/AO-13/02-Structure/i-6jBxrP2/A
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Philip Jenkins [email protected] wrote:
Hi
I mentioned in an earlier email today that I'm doing a Sat 101 lecture for a ham club.
Just putting the finishing touches on the presentation, and I have a question....
I'm displaying a picture of AO-13 (my first sat QSO was on that bird) to contrast it with a picture of the the cubesats of today
The only dimensions I'm finding for AO-13 are 600 x 40 x 200 mm...this seems awfully small for a 92 Kg (plus another 30Kg for fuel) weight. (23.6 inches x 1.6 inches x 7.8 inches).
Were these dimensions actually in centimeters. and not millimeters?
Thanks
Philip N4HF _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/a7703b16767b66344bf8ff8c1fdc023c.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
The misprint is that the 40mm should be 400mm and then the others can make sense. And the 200mm must be the width of a side.
Bob
-----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Philip Jenkins
That is definitely larger than 600mm (~23 inches) in the largest dimension) and more than 40mm in the smallest one, so I'm guessing that "mm" is a misprint in the only source I'm finding - http://www.om3ktr.sk/druzice/ao13.html - and should actually be "cm".
Thanks Paul
Philip
On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Paul Stoetzer [email protected] wrote:
I can't find the precise dimensions. but here's a photo of the satellite structure being worked on:
https://n4hy.smugmug.com/AMSAT/AO-13/02-Structure/i-6jBxrP2/A
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Philip Jenkins [email protected] wrote:
Hi
I mentioned in an earlier email today that I'm doing a Sat 101 lecture for a ham club.
Just putting the finishing touches on the presentation, and I have a question....
I'm displaying a picture of AO-13 (my first sat QSO was on that bird) to contrast it with a picture of the the cubesats of today
The only dimensions I'm finding for AO-13 are 600 x 40 x 200 mm...this seems awfully small for a 92 Kg (plus another 30Kg for fuel) weight. (23.6 inches x 1.6 inches x 7.8 inches).
Were these dimensions actually in centimeters. and not millimeters?
Thanks
Philip N4HF _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/e17fa22c3ff5a281c8656442049abc48.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
Here is a picture that should help:
https://n4hy.smugmug.com/AMSAT/AO-10/Planning/i-9qFH42X/A
There is a dimension scale at the bottom.
Andy WB3JNZ
On 6/4/2017 10:40 AM, Philip Jenkins wrote:
Hi
I mentioned in an earlier email today that I'm doing a Sat 101 lecture for a ham club.
Just putting the finishing touches on the presentation, and I have a question....
I'm displaying a picture of AO-13 (my first sat QSO was on that bird) to contrast it with a picture of the the cubesats of today
The only dimensions I'm finding for AO-13 are 600 x 40 x 200 mm...this seems awfully small for a 92 Kg (plus another 30Kg for fuel) weight. (23.6 inches x 1.6 inches x 7.8 inches).
Were these dimensions actually in centimeters. and not millimeters?
Thanks
Philip N4HF _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/9e9410e11418b2e5df3fe1fbf969da36.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
It's cool that the satellite had its own motor. Was it used much?
Steve AI9IN
On 2017-06-04 12:01, Andy L. wrote:
Here is a picture that should help:
https://n4hy.smugmug.com/AMSAT/AO-10/Planning/i-9qFH42X/A
There is a dimension scale at the bottom.
Andy WB3JNZ
On 6/4/2017 10:40 AM, Philip Jenkins wrote:
Hi
I mentioned in an earlier email today that I'm doing a Sat 101 lecture for a ham club.
Just putting the finishing touches on the presentation, and I have a question....
I'm displaying a picture of AO-13 (my first sat QSO was on that bird) to contrast it with a picture of the the cubesats of today
The only dimensions I'm finding for AO-13 are 600 x 40 x 200 mm...this seems awfully small for a 92 Kg (plus another 30Kg for fuel) weight. (23.6 inches x 1.6 inches x 7.8 inches).
Were these dimensions actually in centimeters. and not millimeters?
Thanks
Philip N4HF _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/5712ae1058da6e45b63ffbac77d35e75.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
The motor was used to raise the perigee and change the satellite's inclination. It only carried enough fuel to reach the intended orbit.
The satellite was launched into a geostationary transfer orbit with a perigee of 240 km and an inclination of just a few degrees. The motor allowed the perigee to be raised to 1100 km and the inclination raised to 58 degrees.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 17:43 [email protected] wrote:
It's cool that the satellite had its own motor. Was it used much?
Steve AI9IN
On 2017-06-04 12:01, Andy L. wrote:
Here is a picture that should help:
https://n4hy.smugmug.com/AMSAT/AO-10/Planning/i-9qFH42X/A
There is a dimension scale at the bottom.
Andy WB3JNZ
On 6/4/2017 10:40 AM, Philip Jenkins wrote:
Hi
I mentioned in an earlier email today that I'm doing a Sat 101 lecture
for
a ham club.
Just putting the finishing touches on the presentation, and I have a question....
I'm displaying a picture of AO-13 (my first sat QSO was on that bird) to contrast it with a picture of the the cubesats of today
The only dimensions I'm finding for AO-13 are 600 x 40 x 200 mm...this seems awfully small for a 92 Kg (plus another 30Kg for fuel) weight.
(23.6
inches x 1.6 inches x 7.8 inches).
Were these dimensions actually in centimeters. and not millimeters?
Thanks
Philip N4HF _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
![](https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7ee4f8114396366f609f5cbaeaaf3140.jpg?s=120&d=mm&r=g)
Here the Information from the Amsat-DL Webside: Diameter: 126cm (without antennas) High: 50cm http://www.amsat-dl.org/ao_13.html
73s Michael, hb9wdf
Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Am 04.06.2017 um 15:40 schrieb Philip Jenkins [email protected]:
Hi
I mentioned in an earlier email today that I'm doing a Sat 101 lecture for a ham club.
Just putting the finishing touches on the presentation, and I have a question....
I'm displaying a picture of AO-13 (my first sat QSO was on that bird) to contrast it with a picture of the the cubesats of today
The only dimensions I'm finding for AO-13 are 600 x 40 x 200 mm...this seems awfully small for a 92 Kg (plus another 30Kg for fuel) weight. (23.6 inches x 1.6 inches x 7.8 inches).
Were these dimensions actually in centimeters. and not millimeters?
Thanks
Philip N4HF _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
participants (7)
-
Andy L.
-
Joe
-
Michael Lipp, HB9WDF
-
Paul Stoetzer
-
Philip Jenkins
-
Robert Bruninga
-
skristof@etczone.com