1. Based upon the AMSAT page, I conclude the following birds are active: ISS (FM), LILACSAT-2, AO-73, AO-85, SO-50, NO-44, NO-84, FO-29, XW-2F, AO-07. 2. At the top of the AMSAT satellite status page, there is a blank line for satellite status, with reports. Is this a new satellite that is not yet turned over to operations? 3. Which of the following satellites will work when NOT illuminated? I remember AO-7 and NO-44 won't, and AO-73 will, but not sure about SO-50, FO-29, NO-84, AO-85, XW-2F. 4. What is the best way to tell if a satellite is illuminated? Could be before sunrise at my QTH if the bird is east, or after my sunset if the bird is west. How can I tell? 5. I need more info on APRS. I set it up to relay my position from my car on 144.39 many years ago, but Bob Bruninga has often said APRS capable of so much more. a. Is satellite APRS helpful just for isolated locations, for relaying information? b. How long does the satellite transmit the information packet (what is the lifetime of the packet?) c. What if the amount of packets to be transmitted by the satellite takes longer than the visibility of the satellite at my QTH? I won't hear certain data, right? d. What is everyone else using satellite APRS for?
Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg@arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com
El 02/12/15 a las 04:00, Mark Lunday escribió:
Hi Mark,
Lets try to answer some of your questions.
- Based upon the AMSAT page, I conclude the following birds are
active: ISS (FM), LILACSAT-2, AO-73, AO-85, SO-50, NO-44, NO-84, FO-29, XW-2F, AO-07.
Yes. However, LilacSat's transponder is only active some days, as you can see. Also, NO-44's health is not very good and its giving several problems. I hear that, for instance, it shouldn't be used over Region 1 (Europe and Africa) to prevent it from transmitting on 144.390 (which is used by meteor scatter people).
- At the top of the AMSAT satellite status page, there is a blank line
for satellite status, with reports. Is this a new satellite that is not yet turned over to operations?
That's probably nothing. Reports not correctly labelled or a software bug.
- Which of the following satellites will work when NOT illuminated? I
remember AO-7 and NO-44 won't, and AO-73 will, but not sure about SO-50, FO-29, NO-84, AO-85, XW-2F.
AO-7 only works when illuminated. NO-44 I'm not sure about its status. As I said, it's not doing so well. The rest of them work fine in eclipse.
Also, note that on weekdays AO-73 will only run high-power (300mW) telemetry when illuminated and transponder and low-power telemetry when in eclipse. In weekends it's always transponder and low-power telemetry.
- What is the best way to tell if a satellite is illuminated? Could
be before sunrise at my QTH if the bird is east, or after my sunset if the bird is west. How can I tell?
In fact a satellite can be illuminated even if it is over the nigh side of Earth, because it high above the surface. For instance, AO-7 will spend about half of the year always illuminated.
If your satellite tracking software doesn't tell you (Gpredict) does, you could use Illum by DK3WN. Look for it here: http://www.dk3wn.info/software.shtml
- I need more info on APRS. I set it up to relay my position from my
car on 144.39 many years ago, but Bob Bruninga has often said APRS capable of so much more.
You can send text messages, get weather reports, send "objects" for locations of interest, etc. Take a look at http://aprs.fi to see what other people are doing with APRS.
a. Is satellite APRS helpful just for isolated locations, for relaying information?
Not sure. Probably most people use it just for playing. You can do valid DX QSOs by satellite APRS if that's your thing, also.
b. How long does the satellite transmit the information packet (what is the lifetime of the packet?)
The satellite retransmits the packet almost immediately after receiving it and only one time. This is the same as a terrestrial digipeater does.
c. What if the amount of packets to be transmitted by the satellite takes longer than the visibility of the satellite at my QTH? I won't hear certain data, right?
As I said, the satellite doesn't do store and forward, but rather repeats the packets immediately. What happens if many people are using the satellite is that the packets will collide and won't be heard by the satellite. The same happens with a terrestrial digipeater.
d. What is everyone else using satellite APRS for?
As I said, probably just for fun, but perhaps there are people in remote locations using it for relaying some useful data (although you probably could also use HF APRS for that).
Hope you find this useful. Probably other people can add more information or another point of view.
73,
Dani M0HXM/EA4GPZ.
I have had several successful QSOs via the Space Station APRS repeater (ARISS). I use DireWolf and UISS software. The UISS software allows you to set up macros to send short messages via packet. Put your call, name, and grid square in there. You send that, get a confirmation from the other station and they send their info, then you send a confirmation back. A digital satellite QSO in a matter of seconds. You really need to listen carefully so you don't send in the middle of another person's packet to prevent packet collisions. It doesn't always work, but when it does it work, it's pretty cool.
Steve AI9IN EM79 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Lunday" wd4elg@triad.rr.com To: "'AMSAT BB'" amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 11:00 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] A refresher needed...
- Based upon the AMSAT page, I conclude the following birds are
active: ISS (FM), LILACSAT-2, AO-73, AO-85, SO-50, NO-44, NO-84, FO-29, XW-2F, AO-07. 2. At the top of the AMSAT satellite status page, there is a blank line for satellite status, with reports. Is this a new satellite that is not yet turned over to operations? 3. Which of the following satellites will work when NOT illuminated? I remember AO-7 and NO-44 won't, and AO-73 will, but not sure about SO-50, FO-29, NO-84, AO-85, XW-2F. 4. What is the best way to tell if a satellite is illuminated? Could be before sunrise at my QTH if the bird is east, or after my sunset if the bird is west. How can I tell? 5. I need more info on APRS. I set it up to relay my position from my car on 144.39 many years ago, but Bob Bruninga has often said APRS capable of so much more. a. Is satellite APRS helpful just for isolated locations, for relaying information? b. How long does the satellite transmit the information packet (what is the lifetime of the packet?) c. What if the amount of packets to be transmitted by the satellite takes longer than the visibility of the satellite at my QTH? I won't hear certain data, right? d. What is everyone else using satellite APRS for?
Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg@arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com
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