While the rash of accusations, misinformation, and spin that is the hallmark of AMSAT election time the past two years carries on at a dizzying pace, I feel the need to speak up as (to borrow on a famous quote) "the reports of my complete stupidity are an exaggeration".
A background as quoted from historical emails regarding one false claim follows. Names of non-AMSAT Engineering volunteers have been removed and volunteer names are used only when needed for context.
1/26/2016
Not sure if I closed the loop at the end of last week or not. After talking with AHA (nice intro from [REDACTED]), and talking with Notorious [REDACTED], and the space team, everyone is excited about DVB-S2X for both Phase 4 and Ascent (and HEO).
AHA is going to come back with some sort of offer/deal/marketing magic in a couple-three weeks. This would be for the payloads. Ground team designs an open source receiver from the standard up.
I think if we want to go for it, we should buy an implementation of DVB-S2X for ascent, use format 0 for the very low SNR stuff, and start designing!
7/29/2016
Attached is an archive with documents for the AHA DVB-S2X IP cores. Note that there is a folder titled “Confidential – Protected under NDA”. These documents should not be posted on a public forum (anyone can get to the github site right?) and should be distributed on an “as needed” basis to those that understand / have been briefed on the conditions of the NDA.
8/12/2016
M ,
Please review the AHA NDA, sign the affirmation, and return it to me.
If there are others we need to include you may pass these along to them with the same instructions. Please be sure that we have an affirmation signed by the others who will be attending the meeting at AHA, before they have access to the materials.
I will talk to the Texas contingent after we determine whether we can have a webinar or not, they can't travel to the meetings in person due to the length of time involved.
I will keep the documents secured on an AMSAT server and we can pull them out to distribute as we determine who needs to see them and have their affirmation.
Thanks!
-- Jerry Buxton, NØJY Vice President - Engineering
Here you go! :+) [in response, with completed NDA attached]
------------------- As stated, the documents are secured on an AMSAT server. There are only two NDA affirmations on file with the documents, on the server.
\P4B\AHA NDA\Affirmations Buxton NDA Affirmation-signed.pdf T NDA Affirmation Signed MDT.pdf
It should be noted that the same property mentioned in the 7/29/2016 was sent to Virginia Tech partners in the same email as to AMSAT. I do not have any insight to their NDA (if any) with the owner of the IP.
With no other NDA affirmations on file to date much less those as requested for the meeting or use of the property, it would appear that neither the team that went to the meeting nor any other person in AMSAT Engineering needed access to the IP? Absent any acquisition of the files from the server by someone who had signed the NDA affirmation for distribution without my knowledge (affirmation is required in order for me to provide them with the passwords for the archives) it would appear that the need for the IP was not realized. This may have been due to the termination of the Heimdallr "CQC" project, or the departure of many CQC ASCENT Engineers to ORI, or both. And there may certainly have been other reasons that our engineers chose not to pursue use of DVB-S2X for a period of time.
The IP and NDA still exists and to the best of my understanding of it, the agreement for use and non-disclosure is still effective. There will no doubt be opportunities for use in HEO as was first mentioned in the negotiation and enthusiasm for use of the IP with P4B, CQC, and future HEO, despite the termination of CQC and the hold (at least at this time) on any VT need of help for P4B.
When AMSAT Engineers are working an idea as ASCENT or P4B, a design idea as was GOLF, or a project as is GOLF now, if there is technology that is shown to be useful with a proper need to justify the cost of the technology and resulting implementation of new satellites, I have historically supported the Engineering Team by doing what bosses do by providing them with the tools they need to do great work. The AHA is such an example and shows the trust I have had with all of the engineers under my supervision including those who I may not have or do not now, necessarily agree with or see eye to eye. To me it makes no sense to derail AMSAT progress over personal feelings. That's just the me that was elected VPE. Ask any engineer, and we may have disagreed or argued over things along the way but we continue to work together and things turn out happy for everyone. It is unfortunate but part of life that some just cannot put aside differences to reach that common goal. In the recent situation I believe it has something to do with the fact that I am not considered of the caliber of the upper class who knows all things about space and technology and it is probably easily shown that I am in many regards, in their point of view, stupid. I can take that, but as I said these reports of my COMPLETE stupidity are an exaggeration.
I could research and respond to other statements that exaggerate my best asset as well, honestly the time spent is better spent doing what we do to keep satellites going up. This email did not happen in two minutes, it was in excess of two hours. I think that is part of the election time disruption plan, distracting everyone and causing extra work and FUD, but despite the high noise floor your dedicated Engineering Team volunteers haven't looked up from their work. And I do not intend to take any more of my AMSAT time to address any other concocted statements, I say that with the hope and belief that you can all realize that these statements only come from one source and no one, ever, has asked the other party (i.e. me in this case) for their statement on the subject before the stuff gets flung to the masses as truth. Even a rocket scientist would realize that you can't accomplish anything of value working with only one half, one "all knowing" engineer's view, of the needed information. And that right there is all that need be said regarding the source of the stuff flying my way.
As I said I hope that this gives you some thought to the truth of this instance but I must raise one more important consideration before I close; All or many of your fellow hams in AMSAT Engineering are implicated by this and other not-true, broad claims - I will not tolerate that and I think it is fair to ask that you do not engage in or tolerate that either. Thank you.
Sigh. I suspect this arose from improper intellectual property policy. This work was intended to be added to an Open Source project, and and NDA was not appropriate for it.
Adding to all of this is the fact that AHA is difficult to deal with regarding intellectual property because, in my experience, they simply don't understand it. I have gotten purported legal agreements from AHA that were written by a salesperson rather than an attorney - and that is working for a public company customer where the risk is much higher. And they are known to have entirely lost the recipe for a product. I doubt the situation is salvageable. A student's summer work got wasted and that is who is owed an apology.
Thanks
Bruce
Why are you posting communications under NDA to a public list?
It's really not under dispute. The donated IP cores were lost and the signed NDA was lost.
Now you post this in anger. I don't think that was wise.
If we had AMSAT board meetings, this sort of thing would have come up over the past year in a more appropriate forum.
-Michelle W5NYV
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:21 PM Jerry Buxton via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
While the rash of accusations, misinformation, and spin that is the hallmark of AMSAT election time the past two years carries on at a dizzying pace, I feel the need to speak up as (to borrow on a famous quote) "the reports of my complete stupidity are an exaggeration".
A background as quoted from historical emails regarding one false claim follows. Names of non-AMSAT Engineering volunteers have been removed and volunteer names are used only when needed for context.
1/26/2016
Not sure if I closed the loop at the end of last week or not. After talking with AHA (nice intro from [REDACTED]), and talking with Notorious [REDACTED], and the space team, everyone is excited about DVB-S2X for both Phase 4 and Ascent (and HEO).
AHA is going to come back with some sort of offer/deal/marketing magic in a couple-three weeks. This would be for the payloads. Ground team designs an open source receiver from the standard up.
I think if we want to go for it, we should buy an implementation of DVB-S2X for ascent, use format 0 for the very low SNR stuff, and start designing!
7/29/2016
Attached is an archive with documents for the AHA DVB-S2X IP cores. Note that there is a folder titled “Confidential – Protected under NDA”. These documents should not be posted on a public forum (anyone can get to the github site right?) and should be distributed on an “as needed” basis to those that understand / have been briefed on the conditions of the NDA.
8/12/2016
M ,
Please review the AHA NDA, sign the affirmation, and return it to me.
If there are others we need to include you may pass these along to them with the same instructions. Please be sure that we have an affirmation signed by the others who will be attending the meeting at AHA, before they have access to the materials.
I will talk to the Texas contingent after we determine whether we can have a webinar or not, they can't travel to the meetings in person due to the length of time involved.
I will keep the documents secured on an AMSAT server and we can pull them out to distribute as we determine who needs to see them and have their affirmation.
Thanks!
-- Jerry Buxton, NØJY Vice President - Engineering
Here you go! :+) [in response, with completed NDA attached]
As stated, the documents are secured on an AMSAT server. There are only two NDA affirmations on file with the documents, on the server.
\P4B\AHA NDA\Affirmations Buxton NDA Affirmation-signed.pdf T NDA Affirmation Signed MDT.pdf
It should be noted that the same property mentioned in the 7/29/2016 was sent to Virginia Tech partners in the same email as to AMSAT. I do not have any insight to their NDA (if any) with the owner of the IP.
With no other NDA affirmations on file to date much less those as requested for the meeting or use of the property, it would appear that neither the team that went to the meeting nor any other person in AMSAT Engineering needed access to the IP? Absent any acquisition of the files from the server by someone who had signed the NDA affirmation for distribution without my knowledge (affirmation is required in order for me to provide them with the passwords for the archives) it would appear that the need for the IP was not realized. This may have been due to the termination of the Heimdallr "CQC" project, or the departure of many CQC ASCENT Engineers to ORI, or both. And there may certainly have been other reasons that our engineers chose not to pursue use of DVB-S2X for a period of time.
The IP and NDA still exists and to the best of my understanding of it, the agreement for use and non-disclosure is still effective. There will no doubt be opportunities for use in HEO as was first mentioned in the negotiation and enthusiasm for use of the IP with P4B, CQC, and future HEO, despite the termination of CQC and the hold (at least at this time) on any VT need of help for P4B.
When AMSAT Engineers are working an idea as ASCENT or P4B, a design idea as was GOLF, or a project as is GOLF now, if there is technology that is shown to be useful with a proper need to justify the cost of the technology and resulting implementation of new satellites, I have historically supported the Engineering Team by doing what bosses do by providing them with the tools they need to do great work. The AHA is such an example and shows the trust I have had with all of the engineers under my supervision including those who I may not have or do not now, necessarily agree with or see eye to eye. To me it makes no sense to derail AMSAT progress over personal feelings. That's just the me that was elected VPE. Ask any engineer, and we may have disagreed or argued over things along the way but we continue to work together and things turn out happy for everyone. It is unfortunate but part of life that some just cannot put aside differences to reach that common goal. In the recent situation I believe it has something to do with the fact that I am not considered of the caliber of the upper class who knows all things about space and technology and it is probably easily shown that I am in many regards, in their point of view, stupid. I can take that, but as I said these reports of my COMPLETE stupidity are an exaggeration.
I could research and respond to other statements that exaggerate my best asset as well, honestly the time spent is better spent doing what we do to keep satellites going up. This email did not happen in two minutes, it was in excess of two hours. I think that is part of the election time disruption plan, distracting everyone and causing extra work and FUD, but despite the high noise floor your dedicated Engineering Team volunteers haven't looked up from their work. And I do not intend to take any more of my AMSAT time to address any other concocted statements, I say that with the hope and belief that you can all realize that these statements only come from one source and no one, ever, has asked the other party (i.e. me in this case) for their statement on the subject before the stuff gets flung to the masses as truth. Even a rocket scientist would realize that you can't accomplish anything of value working with only one half, one "all knowing" engineer's view, of the needed information. And that right there is all that need be said regarding the source of the stuff flying my way.
As I said I hope that this gives you some thought to the truth of this instance but I must raise one more important consideration before I close; All or many of your fellow hams in AMSAT Engineering are implicated by this and other not-true, broad claims - I will not tolerate that and I think it is fair to ask that you do not engage in or tolerate that either. Thank you.
-- Jerry Buxton, NØJY
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Michelle Thompson