Is there any reason why AO-85 is not listed in celestrak Norad elements amateur txt ??
Joe
I have added this to the FAQ on this wiki: http://sats.wikidot.com/i-cannot-find-ao-85-tles-in-gpredict-satpc32-amsatdr...
The answer:
Resolution
Select the AMSAT source rather than CelesTrak. https://www.amsat.org/tle/current/nasabare.txt
Explanation
Due to AO-85's launch as a secondary payload on a classified mission, CelesTrak doesn't have the keps in their database. - Paul N8HM AMSAT pulls the keps from the Space-Track database. I believe the policy for secondary payloads on classified missions allows only the satellite owners or their designated representatives to do so. We can then redistribute them ourselves. Of course, this policy does not make much sense. Russia and China know exactly where all of our classified satellites are. The only consequence is that we're inconvenienced. My favorite OS tracking app pulls solely from Celestrak, so I have to use another app for NO-84 and AO-85. - Paul N8HM
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 06:21 Joe Pereira joevk5ei@gmail.com wrote:
Is there any reason why AO-85 is not listed in celestrak Norad elements amateur txt ??
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Ok thanks,
I now remember this was mentioned before and at times it does get annoying when trying to search for specific satellites particularly for amateur radio use.
Now using nasa.all. http://www.amsat.org/tle/current/nasa.all
But I still need to keep changing URL sources to follow other birds and at times also using space-track to get the most updated tle's.
All good - Thanks again. Joe
On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 9:22 PM, John Brier johnbrier@gmail.com wrote:
I have added this to the FAQ on this wiki: http://sats.wikidot.com/i-cannot-find-ao-85-tles-in- gpredict-satpc32-amsatdroid-or-c
The answer:
Resolution
Select the AMSAT source rather than CelesTrak. https://www.amsat.org/tle/current/nasabare.txt
Explanation
Due to AO-85's launch as a secondary payload on a classified mission, CelesTrak doesn't have the keps in their database. - Paul N8HM AMSAT pulls the keps from the Space-Track database. I believe the policy for secondary payloads on classified missions allows only the satellite owners or their designated representatives to do so. We can then redistribute them ourselves. Of course, this policy does not make much sense. Russia and China know exactly where all of our classified satellites are. The only consequence is that we're inconvenienced. My favorite OS tracking app pulls solely from Celestrak, so I have to use another app for NO-84 and AO-85. - Paul N8HM
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 06:21 Joe Pereira joevk5ei@gmail.com wrote:
Is there any reason why AO-85 is not listed in celestrak Norad elements amateur txt ??
Joe _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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