Hi All, I am glad that someone else has responded with this observation. I sent an email to the BBS last week about a problem and had comment.. The keps gave the same trouble when used with my Pocket Palm software as well as Orbitron if you stripped out the header and footer. Thanks for your very valuable time and efforts by the way Paul , we have become very dependant on them as a tool for tracking and predictions. Regards Ken Eaton GW1FKY Amsat - UK Amsat NA