For the past several years I have used FO-29 for field day. Is this sat usable? The sat status appears that it is in a questionable state. I have never used a FM mode J sat for field day, and would assume that it would turn into what CBer's call a key down contest, were the biggest amp wins due to the capture effect. It seems that mode J-FM birds are already crowded during a regular day. I could only imagine that it would be very difficult to work during FD. I had listen to VO-52 during FD and noticed that there was not any FD traffic on the bird. Could we use this sat if FO-29 is not functional? If so, that is the satellite I plan on trying to work for FD. I miss RS-12/13 Good bird for FD.
Thanks, Chris KQ6UP
Hi Chris!
For the past several years I have used FO-29 for field day. Is this sat usable? The sat status appears that it is in a questionable state. I have
It looks like we won't be able to use FO-29. Since it started having problems, the Japanese have been turning it on for just passes near Japan.
never used a FM mode J sat for field day, and would assume that it would turn into what CBer's call a key down contest, were the biggest amp wins due to the capture effect. It seems that mode J-FM birds are already crowded during a regular day. I could only imagine that it would be very difficult
Yes, the FM birds are crowded during Field Day. With the 100-point satellite QSO bonus under the ARRL Field Day rules, there are many stations set up just to make the contact for those points. Low-power or QRP stations *can* make the contacts during Field Day, but it is much harder than on a normal weekend. Difficult, but not impossible.
to work during FD. I had listen to VO-52 during FD and noticed that there was not any FD traffic on the bird. Could we use this sat if FO-29 is not functional? If so, that is the satellite I plan on trying to work for FD. I miss RS-12/13 Good bird for FD.
Any satellite is available for use during Field Day, including VO-52. If you plan on entering your log for either ARRL's or AMSAT's Field Day competition (or both), make sure to read through both sets of rules. There are some differences between them.
I now have a new setup for the SSB birds, a pair of FT-817NDs, since I have not been successful using an AOR handheld receiver for the downlink. The receiver is more than sensitive enough, but could not tune in steps small enough to clearly hear the voices in SSB. I saw the two 817s work with VO-52 during a demo at Dayton in 2006, so I am confident I will make my first non-FM satellite QSO this weekend. Then, on to Field Day...
Good luck and 73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/
(planning on a 1B/1-operator/battery QRP effort, on HF and satellites, from somewhere in Arizona for Field Day)
I plan to be on VO-52 for Field Day, working the Satellite station for the Palomar Amateur Radio Club and using the Club Call W6NWG Schedule was sent out for FO-29 It should be on for Field Day and I will try it too. See copy below: "From: Mineo Wakita <ei7m-wkt@asahi-net.or.jp> Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 Schedule June To: pbaudino@formatnet.it Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Sunday, June 15, 2008, 5:01 AM
June UTC 14 2:13 - 15 1:18 - 16 none 17 1:15 - 18 2:03 - 19 2:55 - 20 2:00 - 21 2:50 - 22 1:55 - 23 none 24 1:50 - 25 2:40 - 26 1:45 - 27 2:35 - 28 1:40 - 29 2:31 - 30 none
July UTC 1 2:25 - 2 1:30 -
de JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita"
Art, KC6UQH
----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" amsat-bb@wd9ewk.net To: amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:44 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FO-29 and Field Day?
Hi Chris!
For the past several years I have used FO-29 for field day. Is this sat usable? The sat status appears that it is in a questionable state. I have
It looks like we won't be able to use FO-29. Since it started having problems, the Japanese have been turning it on for just passes near Japan.
never used a FM mode J sat for field day, and would assume that it would turn into what CBer's call a key down contest, were the biggest amp wins due to the capture effect. It seems that mode J-FM birds are already crowded during a regular day. I could only imagine that it would be very difficult
Yes, the FM birds are crowded during Field Day. With the 100-point satellite QSO bonus under the ARRL Field Day rules, there are many stations set up just to make the contact for those points. Low-power or QRP stations *can* make the contacts during Field Day, but it is much harder than on a normal weekend. Difficult, but not impossible.
to work during FD. I had listen to VO-52 during FD and noticed that there was not any FD traffic on the bird. Could we use this sat if FO-29 is not functional? If so, that is the satellite I plan on trying to work for FD. I miss RS-12/13 Good bird for FD.
Any satellite is available for use during Field Day, including VO-52. If you plan on entering your log for either ARRL's or AMSAT's Field Day competition (or both), make sure to read through both sets of rules. There are some differences between them.
I now have a new setup for the SSB birds, a pair of FT-817NDs, since I have not been successful using an AOR handheld receiver for the downlink. The receiver is more than sensitive enough, but could not tune in steps small enough to clearly hear the voices in SSB. I saw the two 817s work with VO-52 during a demo at Dayton in 2006, so I am confident I will make my first non-FM satellite QSO this weekend. Then, on to Field Day...
Good luck and 73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/
(planning on a 1B/1-operator/battery QRP effort, on HF and satellites, from somewhere in Arizona for Field Day) _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Hi Art!
I plan to be on VO-52 for Field Day, working the Satellite station for the Palomar Amateur Radio Club and using the Club Call W6NWG Schedule was sent out for FO-29 It should be on for Field Day and I will try it too. See copy below:
<snip>
I compared those pass times from JE9PEL's e-mail (generally between 0100 and 0300 UTC on each day when it will be on), and compared it to FO-29 passes for Arizona. In the next few days, FO-29 would pass by generally between 0600 and 1000 UTC and also between 1600 and 1900 UTC. Since none of those times match up with the times in that other e-mail, it is fair to say that - for North America, at least - FO-29 is not available for us to use during Field Day on 28-29 June. A shame.
I had hoped that FO-29 would be back, as that would make the Doppler tuning with my two-radio setup a little bit easier. Oh well... I will give VO-52 a try this weekend as previously planned. I'm really confident that my planned SSB/CW satellite station (two FT-817NDs) will work out, and it will be nice to have something in addition to FM satellites available for demonstrations, presentations, etc. I do.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/
I think that FO29 shuts off all transmitters always just before it gets to NA because of power problems which cause it to become silent at eclipse. Then it must be manually re-started by japanese groundstations during their available daylight passes, mostly ascending ones. That's why it is never heard over NA. This was discussed a few months ago on the BBS, so the original discussion should be available online in the various archives.
Hopw that helps
Auke
----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" amsat-bb@wd9ewk.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:20 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FO-29 and Field Day?
Hi Art!
I plan to be on VO-52 for Field Day, working the Satellite station for the Palomar Amateur Radio Club and using the Club Call W6NWG Schedule was sent out for FO-29 It should be on for Field Day and I will try it too. See copy below:
<snip>
I compared those pass times from JE9PEL's e-mail (generally between 0100 and 0300 UTC on each day when it will be on), and compared it to FO-29 passes for Arizona. In the next few days, FO-29 would pass by generally between 0600 and 1000 UTC and also between 1600 and 1900 UTC. Since none of those times match up with the times in that other e-mail, it is fair to say that - for North America, at least - FO-29 is not available for us to use during Field Day on 28-29 June. A shame.
I had hoped that FO-29 would be back, as that would make the Doppler tuning with my two-radio setup a little bit easier. Oh well... I will give VO-52 a try this weekend as previously planned. I'm really confident that my planned SSB/CW satellite station (two FT-817NDs) will work out, and it will be nice to have something in addition to FM satellites available for demonstrations, presentations, etc. I do.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Auke de Jong, VE6PWN
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Chris Maness
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Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)