Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 6, Issue 67

2 Feb 2011

      There has been much discussion about the possibility of doing some on orbit testing of ARISSat-1 while it is still inside the cabin.
That has been proposed and it is being considered. There is no decision as of this time. This idea has some hurdles to overcome before it is a done deal.
First we must get the approval of the ISS safety panel. In order to do that we must show that it will not constitute a safety hazard to the ISS. That has not been clearly established as of this time. Second it would interfere with some planned school contacts. That would cause a lot of problems. So it is premature to declare that this testing will take place. We will continue to work the process and will let the amateur community and the world know as soon as possible if it is approved.
Lou McFadin
W5DID
ARISS US Hardware manager
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Re: Fwd: Re: Re: UKuke-1 Announcement (Wouter Weggelaar)
Re: LoTW Questions (Jim Bennett)
Re: LoTW Questions (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
LoTW Questions (Ted)
SA-AMSAT Satellites (Trevor .)
Re: LoTW Questions (Zachary Beougher)
AO-51 status on AMSAT.org page (Scott Armstrong)
Re: AO-51 status on AMSAT.org page (Mark L. Hammond)
Re: AO-51 status on AMSAT.org page (Scott Armstrong)
Re: AO-51 status on AMSAT.org page (Andrew Glasbrenner)
Re: LoTW Questions (Gary "Joe" Mayfield)
Re: LoTW Questions (Jim Bennett)

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:33:22 +0100
From: Wouter Weggelaar wouterweg@gmail.com
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Re: Re: UKuke-1 Announcement
To: Jim List jimlist@milnet.uk.net
Cc: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org, "Mark L. Hammond"
   marklhammond@gmail.com
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I guess there will be at least a couple of dutchies here as well
willing to track.
Wouter PA3WEG
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jim List jimlist@milnet.uk.net wrote:
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Agreed, but thats not to say that someone outside UK couldn't set up a GS,
using the info in the AO.
I am sure that the UKSA would welcome that, and also wish to know if any
organisation would be willing to do that.
73 Jim G3WGM
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Behalf Of Mark L. Hammond
Sent: 27 January 2011 00:23
To: amsat-bb
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Re: Re: UKuke-1 Announcement
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#21--must be from UK! ?:)
http://www.ukspaceagency.bis.gov.uk/assets/pdf/UKUBEAOGS.pdf
"UK-based entities are invited to submit a proposal for Ground Segment
support on this pilot mission."
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73,
Mark N8MH
At 06:22 PM 1/26/2011 -0500, you wrote:
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That is good news.
Also, I see bids are being solicited from anyone / any team who would
like
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to form the official U-Kube ground station for the 1 year duration of
the
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mission.
There are a list of 20 requirements for the ground station at:
_http://www.ukspaceagency.bis.gov.uk/20701.aspx_
(http://www.ukspaceagency.bis.gov.uk/20701.aspx)
Two are fairly easy. 1) Must have full amateur radio license. ?2)
Antenna
...
...
must have RH and LH polarisation.
73
David
In a message dated 26/01/2011 17:33:32 GMT Standard Time,
g.shirville@btinternet.com writes:
Sorry this time WITH the relevant link!
_http://www.ukspaceagency.bis.gov.uk/21973.aspx_
(http://www.ukspaceagency.bis.gov.uk/21973.aspx)
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:47:16 -0500
From: "Jim Bennett" jlb3nn@bellsouth.net
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LoTW Questions
To: "'Zachary Beougher'" zack.kd8ksn@hotmail.com,
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Is anyone else using HRD for logging?  I am and after entering  the mode as
Satellite, I have to load the database into Microsoft Access and edit the
mode field from Satellite to SAT.  Then LOTW will accept it.
Zach,
You might want to use MS Access to mass change the field of the mode to SAT.
Jim
Ke4kol
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From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Zachary Beougher
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:45 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LoTW Questions
Hi Gary,
Thanks for the reply - that helps me get a better understanding of how it 
works.  I have never entered the propagation mode into HRD, so I would have 
to manually go through and update each entry (329 since Oct. 24), so I think
I am going to update and upload only my portable operation QSOs DATED AFTER 
Oct. 24 (when I started using HRD instead of paper).  This would encompass 
the EN80/EM89 operation on Oct. 30, EN70vb operation on Nov. 30, EN90/EM99 
operation on Dec. 17, 2010 and again on Jan. 29, 2011.  If someone needs my 
home grid (EN80) confirmed via LoTW, send me an email off list and I will 
update the propagation mode and upload that as well.  I just can't see 
spending all of that time to make a change to all of those entries.  From 
now on I will enter "satellite" as the propagation mode, and then I will 
upload both portable and non-portable QSOs.  I did read in the instructions 
about how you could cut and paste the changed in the ADIF file, but after 
trying that it would take just as long to make the changes in HRD.
73!
Zack
KD8KSN
-----Original Message----- 
From: Gary "Joe" Mayfield
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:52 PM
To: 'Zachary Beougher' ; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] LoTW Questions
The ARRL does a nice job of spelling out the parameters here:
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/LoTW%20Instructions/N5JB.pdf
The band that matters ( according to the ARRL ) is the band you transmit on,
not the band you receive on.
Here is the data you need to log the contact and have it count in LOTW
CALL:6 [The Station You Worked]
<QSO_DATE:8> [YYYYMMDD]
<TIME_ON:6> [HHMMSS] in utc
BAND:4 [The band you transmitted on]
MODE:3 [SSB, CW, FM, etc.]
<PROP_MODE:3>SAT
<SAT_NAME:4> [The bird you used]
<EOR>
Please note it is VERY unforgiving as far as entries go. Things must be 
spelled correctly!  The [] above should not be included.  I have yet to hear
the exact allowable clock difference, but I'm sure it is several minutes at 
least.
73,
Joe kk0sd
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From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On 
Behalf Of Zachary Beougher
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:11 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW Questions
Hi All,
I am trying to get myself going on LoTW, and I need to know what the 
generally excepted parameters are for QSO information.

In my logbook (HRD), what should I put for the freq. (2m, 440)?

What happens if my log entry is one minute off of stations B's entry

(1906z versus 1905z) - will they match up?

What should my mode be set at (FM, SAT)?

Other than date, time, call, mode, sent RST, rcvd RST, band and name (op

name), is there anything that needs to be added to it when I go to upload? 
This was the default LoTW selection for HRD, so I am assuming it is correct.
I can't think of any other questions at the moment, but any other helpful 
tips for getting it started would be appreciated.
73!
Zack
KD8KSN
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:11:32 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" amsat-bb@wd9ewk.net
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LoTW Questions
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Hi!
...
...
Is anyone else using HRD for logging? ?I am and after entering ?the mode as
Satellite, I have to load the database into Microsoft Access and edit the
mode field from Satellite to SAT. ?Then LOTW will accept it.
Zach,
You might want to use MS Access to mass change the field of the mode to SAT.
Or a spreadsheet (MS Excel, OpenOffice, etc.) could be used to do the same
thing.
I was able to take my satellite log in an Excel spreadsheet and quickly
change some fields  - plus add all the ADIF field labels - in a short amount
of time.  My time-consuming task was to break the log down into all the
different station locations I've worked from (almost 100 for my satellite work).
I spent probably 12-14 hours over a couple of late evenings, but it was
worth it.  Now I can make much smaller uploads with new contacts, and not
take much time in doing that.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/

Message: 4
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:30:21 -0800
From: "Ted" k7trkradio@charter.net
Subject: [amsat-bb]  LoTW Questions
To: "'Jim Bennett'" jlb3nn@bellsouth.net,	"'Zachary Beougher'"
   zack.kd8ksn@hotmail.com, amsat-bb@amsat.org
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Jim, there is a 'bulk editor' in the HRD Logbook. Look in the 'more' button.
You will need to isolate your sat log, highlight all the entries, then go to
the bulk editor and add or change fields for the entire log. The
instructions are in the 'bulk editor' window. It's a little sketchy on how
it works but also somewhat intuitive. I was able to add 'satellite' in the
propagation field to all my contacts.
Check it out as it may save some time    ( I do not remember exactly how I
did it so can't be of much help on that. I just know it will work for you)
GL Ted K7TRK
-----Original Message-----
Is anyone else using HRD for logging?  I am and after entering  the mode as
Satellite, I have to load the database into Microsoft Access and edit the
mode field from Satellite to SAT.  Then LOTW will accept it.
Zach,
You might want to use MS Access to mass change the field of the mode to SAT.
Jim
Ke4kol
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Zachary Beougher
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:45 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LoTW Questions
Hi Gary,
Thanks for the reply - that helps me get a better understanding of how it 
works.  I have never entered the propagation mode into HRD, so I would have 
to manually go through and update each entry (329 since Oct. 24), so I think
I am going to update and upload only my portable operation QSOs DATED AFTER 
Oct. 24 (when I started using HRD instead of paper).  This would encompass 
the EN80/EM89 operation on Oct. 30, EN70vb operation on Nov. 30, EN90/EM99 
operation on Dec. 17, 2010 and again on Jan. 29, 2011.  If someone needs my 
home grid (EN80) confirmed via LoTW, send me an email off list and I will 
update the propagation mode and upload that as well.  I just can't see 
spending all of that time to make a change to all of those entries.  From 
now on I will enter "satellite" as the propagation mode, and then I will 
upload both portable and non-portable QSOs.  I did read in the instructions 
about how you could cut and paste the changed in the ADIF file, but after 
trying that it would take just as long to make the changes in HRD.
73!
Zack
KD8KSN
-----Original Message----- 
From: Gary "Joe" Mayfield
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:52 PM
To: 'Zachary Beougher' ; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] LoTW Questions
The ARRL does a nice job of spelling out the parameters here:
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/LoTW%20Instructions/N5JB.pdf
The band that matters ( according to the ARRL ) is the band you transmit on,
not the band you receive on.
Here is the data you need to log the contact and have it count in LOTW
CALL:6 [The Station You Worked]
<QSO_DATE:8> [YYYYMMDD]
<TIME_ON:6> [HHMMSS] in utc
BAND:4 [The band you transmitted on]
MODE:3 [SSB, CW, FM, etc.]
<PROP_MODE:3>SAT
<SAT_NAME:4> [The bird you used]
<EOR>
Please note it is VERY unforgiving as far as entries go. Things must be 
spelled correctly!  The [] above should not be included.  I have yet to hear
the exact allowable clock difference, but I'm sure it is several minutes at 
least.
73,
Joe kk0sd
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On 
Behalf Of Zachary Beougher
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:11 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW Questions
Hi All,
I am trying to get myself going on LoTW, and I need to know what the 
generally excepted parameters are for QSO information.

In my logbook (HRD), what should I put for the freq. (2m, 440)?

What happens if my log entry is one minute off of stations B's entry

(1906z versus 1905z) - will they match up?

What should my mode be set at (FM, SAT)?

Other than date, time, call, mode, sent RST, rcvd RST, band and name (op

name), is there anything that needs to be added to it when I go to upload? 
This was the default LoTW selection for HRD, so I am assuming it is correct.
I can't think of any other questions at the moment, but any other helpful 
tips for getting it started would be appreciated.
73!
Zack
KD8KSN
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 23:07:03 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Trevor ." m5aka@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: [amsat-bb]  SA-AMSAT Satellites
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Message-ID: 763258.57992.qm@web27205.mail.ukl.yahoo.com
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There is some more info on the two Southern African AMSAT satellites at
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/february2011/saamsat_projects.htm
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Or Upload At: http://www.southgatearc.org/news/your_news_1.htm

Message: 6
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:37:13 -0500
From: "Zachary Beougher" zack.kd8ksn@hotmail.com
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LoTW Questions
To: "Ted" k7trkradio@charter.net, "'Jim Bennett'"
   jlb3nn@bellsouth.net,	amsat-bb@amsat.org
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WOW! Thanks for the tip, Ted.  I did the bulk editor like you had mentioned, 
and it not only changed all off the propagation modes to satellite, but it 
even changed it to "SAT."  I didn't know that option existed.
Here is a sample ADIF file encompassing 2 contacts from the other day.  The 
propagation mode is in line 4 from the bottom in both.  Can anyone tell me 
if this looks like something LoTW would except?
#++
#
#   HRD Logbook version 5.0 build 2636, Copyright (C) 2009-2010 by Simon 
Brown, HB9DRV
#   http://www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
#
#   Created:  01-Feb-2011 19:30:58
#
#--
<ADIF_VERS:3>2.2
PROGRAMID:14HamRadioDeluxe
PROGRAMVERSION:22Version 5.0 build 2636
<EOH>
address:48Michael D Elliott
PO BOX 1165
Nebo, NC 28761
USA <a_index:3>0.0 <ant_az:3>0.0 <ant_el:4>47.0
<ant_path:1>S band:22m call:5K4MOA cnty:8McDowell cont:2NA 
country:24United States of America
cqz:15 distance:7503.537 dxcc:3291 <eqsl_qsl_rcvd:1>N 
<eqsl_qsl_sent:1>N <force_init:1>0 gridsquare:6EM95bp
ituz:16 <k_index:3>0.0 lat:11N035 38.750 lon:11W081 52.500 
<lotw_qsl_rcvd:1>N <lotw_qsl_sent:1>N
mode:2FM <my_country:24>United States of America <my_cq_zone:1>5 
<my_gridsquare:6>EN80sd <my_itu_zone:1>6
<my_lat:11>N040 08.750 <my_lon:11>W082 27.500 <my_name:4>Zack 
name:17Michael D Elliott operator:16ZACHARY BEOUGHER
<owner_callsign:16>ZACHARY BEOUGHER pfx:2K4 <prop_mode:3>SAT <qsl_rcvd:1>N 
<qsl_rcvd_via:1>D <qsl_sent:1>N
<qsl_sent_via:1>D <qso_complete:1>Y <qso_random:1>0 qth:4Nebo 
<rst_rcvd:2>59 <rst_sent:2>59 <rx_pwr:3>0.0
<sat_mode:6>FM V/U <sat_name:4>AO51 sfi:30.0 state:2NC 
<station_callsign:6>KD8KSN swl:10 <time_off:6>215800
<time_on:6>215800 <qso_date:8>20110129 <tx_pwr:5>5.000 <EOR>
address:54Richard G Bogen
835 W South St
Stoughton, WI 53589
USA <a_index:3>4.0 <ant_az:3>0.0 <ant_el:4>47.0
<ant_path:1>S band:22m call:5N9AMW cnty:4Dane cont:2NA 
country:24United States of America cqz:15
distance:7640.187 dxcc:3291 <eqsl_qsl_rcvd:1>N <eqsl_qsl_sent:1>N 
<force_init:1>0 gridsquare:6EN52jv
ituz:16 <k_index:3>0.0 lat:11N042 53.750 lon:11W089 12.500 
<lotw_qsl_rcvd:1>N <lotw_qsl_sent:1>N
mode:2FM <my_country:24>United States of America <my_cq_zone:1>5 
<my_gridsquare:6>EN80sd <my_itu_zone:1>6
<my_lat:11>N040 08.750 <my_lon:11>W082 27.500 <my_name:4>Zack 
name:15Richard G Bogen operator:16ZACHARY BEOUGHER
<owner_callsign:16>ZACHARY BEOUGHER pfx:2N9 <prop_mode:3>SAT <qsl_rcvd:1>N 
<qsl_rcvd_via:1>D <qsl_sent:1>N
<qsl_sent_via:1>D <qso_complete:1>Y <qso_random:1>0 qth:9Stoughton 
<rst_rcvd:2>59 <rst_sent:2>59 <rx_pwr:3>0.0
<sat_mode:6>FM V/U <sat_name:4>AO51 sfi:481.0 state:2WI 
<station_callsign:6>KD8KSN swl:10 <time_off:6>215400
<time_on:6>215400 <qso_date:8>20110129 <tx_pwr:5>5.000 <EOR>
How does that look??
Zack
KD8KSN
-----Original Message----- 
From: Ted
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:30 PM
To: 'Jim Bennett' ; 'Zachary Beougher' ; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: LoTW Questions
Jim, there is a 'bulk editor' in the HRD Logbook. Look in the 'more' button.
You will need to isolate your sat log, highlight all the entries, then go to
the bulk editor and add or change fields for the entire log. The
instructions are in the 'bulk editor' window. It's a little sketchy on how
it works but also somewhat intuitive. I was able to add 'satellite' in the
propagation field to all my contacts.
Check it out as it may save some time    ( I do not remember exactly how I
did it so can't be of much help on that. I just know it will work for you)
GL Ted K7TRK
-----Original Message-----
Is anyone else using HRD for logging?  I am and after entering  the mode as
Satellite, I have to load the database into Microsoft Access and edit the
mode field from Satellite to SAT.  Then LOTW will accept it.
Zach,
You might want to use MS Access to mass change the field of the mode to SAT.
Jim
Ke4kol
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Zachary Beougher
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:45 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LoTW Questions
Hi Gary,
Thanks for the reply - that helps me get a better understanding of how it
works.  I have never entered the propagation mode into HRD, so I would have
to manually go through and update each entry (329 since Oct. 24), so I think
I am going to update and upload only my portable operation QSOs DATED AFTER
Oct. 24 (when I started using HRD instead of paper).  This would encompass
the EN80/EM89 operation on Oct. 30, EN70vb operation on Nov. 30, EN90/EM99
operation on Dec. 17, 2010 and again on Jan. 29, 2011.  If someone needs my
home grid (EN80) confirmed via LoTW, send me an email off list and I will
update the propagation mode and upload that as well.  I just can't see
spending all of that time to make a change to all of those entries.  From
now on I will enter "satellite" as the propagation mode, and then I will
upload both portable and non-portable QSOs.  I did read in the instructions
about how you could cut and paste the changed in the ADIF file, but after
trying that it would take just as long to make the changes in HRD.
73!
Zack
KD8KSN
-----Original Message----- 
From: Gary "Joe" Mayfield
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:52 PM
To: 'Zachary Beougher' ; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] LoTW Questions
The ARRL does a nice job of spelling out the parameters here:
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/LoTW%20Instructions/N5JB.pdf
The band that matters ( according to the ARRL ) is the band you transmit on,
not the band you receive on.
Here is the data you need to log the contact and have it count in LOTW
CALL:6 [The Station You Worked]
<QSO_DATE:8> [YYYYMMDD]
<TIME_ON:6> [HHMMSS] in utc
BAND:4 [The band you transmitted on]
MODE:3 [SSB, CW, FM, etc.]
<PROP_MODE:3>SAT
<SAT_NAME:4> [The bird you used]
<EOR>
Please note it is VERY unforgiving as far as entries go. Things must be
spelled correctly!  The [] above should not be included.  I have yet to hear
the exact allowable clock difference, but I'm sure it is several minutes at
least.
73,
Joe kk0sd
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Zachary Beougher
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:11 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW Questions
Hi All,
I am trying to get myself going on LoTW, and I need to know what the
generally excepted parameters are for QSO information.

In my logbook (HRD), what should I put for the freq. (2m, 440)?

What happens if my log entry is one minute off of stations B's entry

(1906z versus 1905z) - will they match up?

What should my mode be set at (FM, SAT)?

Other than date, time, call, mode, sent RST, rcvd RST, band and name (op

name), is there anything that needs to be added to it when I go to upload?
This was the default LoTW selection for HRD, so I am assuming it is correct.
I can't think of any other questions at the moment, but any other helpful
tips for getting it started would be appreciated.
73!
Zack
KD8KSN
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:54:49 -0600
From: Scott Armstrong aa5am@arrl.net
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 status on AMSAT.org page
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
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Question for the group.
The AO-51 status on the AMSAT.org status page shows AO-51 to have a HF component that is operational.
Reading about the satellite and some of the related links I found mentioned something about a 10m uplink budget but no additional information.  All other references to the satellite make no mention of any HF component.
Does AO51 have a HF uplink or downlink?
Scott AA5AM

Message: 8
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 20:07:58 -0500
From: "Mark L. Hammond" marklhammond@gmail.com
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 status on AMSAT.org page
To: Scott Armstrong aa5am@arrl.net, amsat-bb@amsat.org
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Hi Scott,
AO-51 has a broad band receiver (think something like an Icom PCR-1000) that can be tuned to 10M.  The problem is that the antenna is either one tuned for 2M or 1.2GHz.  So---it's very inefficient and not very effective.  There have been some short periods of testing, but it's not on the list of "commonly used modes."
There is no HF transmitter on AO-51.
Hope that helps!
Mark N8MH
At 06:54 PM 2/1/2011 -0600, Scott Armstrong wrote:
...
Question for the group.
The AO-51 status on the AMSAT.org status page shows AO-51 to have a HF component that is operational.
Reading about the satellite and some of the related links I found mentioned something about a 10m uplink budget but no additional information.  All other references to the satellite make no mention of any HF component.
Does AO51 have a HF uplink or downlink?
Scott AA5AM                                       
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:15:59 -0600
From: Scott Armstrong aa5am@arrl.net
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 status on AMSAT.org page
To: marklhammond@gmail.com, amsat-bb@amsat.org
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Thanks Mark.
Clears up that mystery!  Been meaning to ask that question for a few weeks and just  never seem to get around to doing it.
73,
Scott AA5AM
...
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:07:58 -0500
To: aa5am@arrl.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org
From: marklhammond@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-51 status on AMSAT.org page
Hi Scott,
AO-51 has a broad band receiver (think something like an Icom PCR-1000) that can be tuned to 10M. The problem is that the antenna is either one tuned for 2M or 1.2GHz. So---it's very inefficient and not very effective. There have been some short periods of testing, but it's not on the list of "commonly used modes."
There is no HF transmitter on AO-51.
Hope that helps!
Mark N8MH
At 06:54 PM 2/1/2011 -0600, Scott Armstrong wrote:
...
Question for the group.
The AO-51 status on the AMSAT.org status page shows AO-51 to have a HF component that is operational.
Reading about the satellite and some of the related links I found mentioned something about a 10m uplink budget but no additional information. All other references to the satellite make no mention of any HF component.
Does AO51 have a HF uplink or downlink?
Scott AA5AM 
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 20:21:16 -0500
From: Andrew Glasbrenner glasbrenner@mindspring.com
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 status on AMSAT.org page
To: Scott Armstrong aa5am@arrl.net
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On 2/1/2011 7:54 PM, Scott Armstrong wrote:
...
Question for the group.
The AO-51 status on the AMSAT.org status page shows AO-51 to have a HF component that is operational.
Reading about the satellite and some of the related links I found mentioned something about a 10m uplink budget but no additional information.  All other references to the satellite make no mention of any HF component.
Does AO51 have a HF uplink or downlink?
Scott AA5AM
The wideband SQRX receiver will operate on HF, but early tests indicated 
really poor performance. This is largely in part to a late change in the 
onboard equipment just before launch, but also due to using an 18 inch 
whip for receive on the satellite.
So, it's there but it's not normally in use. We could try it again if 
there is interest enough.
73, Drew KO4MA
AMSAT-NA VP Operations

Message: 11
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:48:39 -0600
From: "Gary "Joe" Mayfield" gary_mayfield@hotmail.com
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LoTW Questions
To: "'k6yk'" k6yk@juno.com, k7trkradio@charter.net
Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org
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Yes,
My logging program became confused and threw an error.   All seems well now.
73,
Joe kk0sd
-----Original Message-----
From: k6yk [mailto:k6yk@juno.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:50 AM
To: k7trkradio@charter.net
Cc: aa5am@arrl.net; gary_mayfield@hotmail.com; zack.kd8ksn@hotmail.com;
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Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LoTW Questions
Anybody notice a hang-up in LOTW yesterday or today?
I uploaded about 300 QSO's last night, they never showed up on
my count yet.  So I uploaded them again this morning, same thing.
BTW I also uploaded all the  RS-13 mode T  QSO's and a bunch of 
older  AO-27 QSO's this week, about  4000 QSO's.  They went in OK.
73,
John K6YK

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:51:01 -0500
From: "Jim Bennett" jlb3nn@bellsouth.net
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LoTW Questions
To: "'Ted'" k7trkradio@charter.net,	"'Zachary Beougher'"
   zack.kd8ksn@hotmail.com, amsat-bb@amsat.org
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Ted,
Thanks for tip.  I didn't know that.  I will try it out the next time I
update my log.
Cu on the birds
73's
Jim
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From: Ted [mailto:k7trkradio@charter.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:30 PM
To: 'Jim Bennett'; 'Zachary Beougher'; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: LoTW Questions
Jim, there is a 'bulk editor' in the HRD Logbook. Look in the 'more' button.
You will need to isolate your sat log, highlight all the entries, then go to
the bulk editor and add or change fields for the entire log. The
instructions are in the 'bulk editor' window. It's a little sketchy on how
it works but also somewhat intuitive. I was able to add 'satellite' in the
propagation field to all my contacts.
Check it out as it may save some time    ( I do not remember exactly how I
did it so can't be of much help on that. I just know it will work for you)
GL Ted K7TRK
-----Original Message-----
Is anyone else using HRD for logging?  I am and after entering  the mode as
Satellite, I have to load the database into Microsoft Access and edit the
mode field from Satellite to SAT.  Then LOTW will accept it.
Zach,
You might want to use MS Access to mass change the field of the mode to SAT.
Jim
Ke4kol
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From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Zachary Beougher
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:45 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LoTW Questions
Hi Gary,
Thanks for the reply - that helps me get a better understanding of how it 
works.  I have never entered the propagation mode into HRD, so I would have 
to manually go through and update each entry (329 since Oct. 24), so I think
I am going to update and upload only my portable operation QSOs DATED AFTER 
Oct. 24 (when I started using HRD instead of paper).  This would encompass 
the EN80/EM89 operation on Oct. 30, EN70vb operation on Nov. 30, EN90/EM99 
operation on Dec. 17, 2010 and again on Jan. 29, 2011.  If someone needs my 
home grid (EN80) confirmed via LoTW, send me an email off list and I will 
update the propagation mode and upload that as well.  I just can't see 
spending all of that time to make a change to all of those entries.  From 
now on I will enter "satellite" as the propagation mode, and then I will 
upload both portable and non-portable QSOs.  I did read in the instructions 
about how you could cut and paste the changed in the ADIF file, but after 
trying that it would take just as long to make the changes in HRD.
73!
Zack
KD8KSN
-----Original Message----- 
From: Gary "Joe" Mayfield
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:52 PM
To: 'Zachary Beougher' ; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] LoTW Questions
The ARRL does a nice job of spelling out the parameters here:
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/LoTW%20Instructions/N5JB.pdf
The band that matters ( according to the ARRL ) is the band you transmit on,
not the band you receive on.
Here is the data you need to log the contact and have it count in LOTW
CALL:6 [The Station You Worked]
<QSO_DATE:8> [YYYYMMDD]
<TIME_ON:6> [HHMMSS] in utc
BAND:4 [The band you transmitted on]
MODE:3 [SSB, CW, FM, etc.]
<PROP_MODE:3>SAT
<SAT_NAME:4> [The bird you used]
<EOR>
Please note it is VERY unforgiving as far as entries go. Things must be 
spelled correctly!  The [] above should not be included.  I have yet to hear
the exact allowable clock difference, but I'm sure it is several minutes at 
least.
73,
Joe kk0sd
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From: amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On 
Behalf Of Zachary Beougher
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:11 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] LoTW Questions
Hi All,
I am trying to get myself going on LoTW, and I need to know what the 
generally excepted parameters are for QSO information.

In my logbook (HRD), what should I put for the freq. (2m, 440)?

What happens if my log entry is one minute off of stations B's entry

(1906z versus 1905z) - will they match up?

What should my mode be set at (FM, SAT)?

Other than date, time, call, mode, sent RST, rcvd RST, band and name (op

name), is there anything that needs to be added to it when I go to upload? 
This was the default LoTW selection for HRD, so I am assuming it is correct.
I can't think of any other questions at the moment, but any other helpful 
tips for getting it started would be appreciated.
73!
Zack
KD8KSN
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