Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376 between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
The website is not up to date.
It its 9/24 and its not open.
The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little oversight like this. UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website visitor. I joined and then apparently my father joined cause he is my elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to his ops. Every member represents more potential members because of vocal advocacy.
Its not pedantic, its reality.
The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern about UX and someone told them that if it bothers them to stop looking at it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers you quit looking at it?"
We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew. don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
QUOTED
the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
73...bruce
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On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay spatrickfay@gmail.com wrote:
As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members. There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for bringing this up.
I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I am with Peter and Andrew on this
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce kk5do@arrl.net wrote:
the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
73...bruce
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On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay spatrickfay@gmail.com wrote:
As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members. There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for bringing this up.
I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I am with Peter and Andrew on this
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH kb1pvh@gmail.com wrote:
Peter,
Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
Dave-KB1PVH
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On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" plaws0@gmail.com wrote:
http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling the store. Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens slowly. I get it. It's fine. More time is needed and that's OK - no one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store, you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past, off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or something.
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The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an IT person either.
We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
73,
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Secretary Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay spatrickfay@gmail.com wrote:
The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376 between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
The website is not up to date.
It its 9/24 and its not open.
The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little oversight like this. UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website visitor. I joined and then apparently my father joined cause he is my elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to his ops. Every member represents more potential members because of vocal advocacy.
Its not pedantic, its reality.
The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern about UX and someone told them that if it bothers them to stop looking at it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers you quit looking at it?"
We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew. don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
QUOTED
the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
73...bruce
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On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay spatrickfay@gmail.com wrote:
As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members. There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for bringing this up.
I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I am with Peter and Andrew on this
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce kk5do@arrl.net wrote:
the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
73...bruce
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone https://yho.com/footer0
On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
spatrickfay@gmail.com>
wrote:
As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
active
amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
look
at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
to
the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
never
look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
the
organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
website
up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members. There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for bringing this up.
I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I am with Peter and Andrew on this
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH kb1pvh@gmail.com wrote:
Peter,
Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S7
On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" plaws0@gmail.com wrote:
http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling the store. Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
happens
slowly. I get it. It's fine. More time is needed and that's OK -
no
one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
store,
you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
past,
off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or something.
-- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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I am an IT person
I am a web designer
I am volunteering
I spend most of my time on the PC
What do u need done I will do it
Andrew
------------------------------------------ Andrew Rich VK4TEC w www.tech-software.net m vk4tec@tech-software.net
On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an IT person either.
We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
73,
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Secretary Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay spatrickfay@gmail.com wrote:
The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376 between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
The website is not up to date.
It its 9/24 and its not open.
The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little oversight like this. UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website visitor. I joined and then apparently my father joined cause he is my elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to his ops. Every member represents more potential members because of vocal advocacy.
Its not pedantic, its reality.
The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern about UX and someone told them that if it bothers them to stop looking at it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers you quit looking at it?"
We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew. don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
QUOTED
the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
73...bruce
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On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay spatrickfay@gmail.com wrote:
As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members. There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for bringing this up.
I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I am with Peter and Andrew on this
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce kk5do@arrl.net wrote:
the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
73...bruce
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone https://yho.com/footer0
On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
spatrickfay@gmail.com>
wrote:
As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
active
amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
look
at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
to
the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
never
look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
the
organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
website
up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members. There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for bringing this up.
I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I am with Peter and Andrew on this
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH kb1pvh@gmail.com wrote:
Peter,
Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S7
On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" plaws0@gmail.com wrote:
http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling the store. Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
happens
slowly. I get it. It's fine. More time is needed and that's OK -
no
one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
store,
you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
past,
off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or something.
-- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
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Andrew,
I sent you a PM. Thanks for volunteering!
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
On 9/24/2016 21:10, Andrew Rich wrote:
I am an IT person
I am a web designer
I am volunteering
I spend most of my time on the PC
What do u need done I will do it
Andrew
Andrew Rich VK4TEC w www.tech-software.net m vk4tec@tech-software.net
On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an IT person either.
We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
73,
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Secretary Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay spatrickfay@gmail.com wrote:
The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376 between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
The website is not up to date.
It its 9/24 and its not open.
The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little oversight like this. UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website visitor. I joined and then apparently my father joined cause he is my elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to his ops. Every member represents more potential members because of vocal advocacy.
Its not pedantic, its reality.
The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern about UX and someone told them that if it bothers them to stop looking at it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers you quit looking at it?"
We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew. don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
QUOTED
the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
73...bruce
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone https://yho.com/footer0
On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay spatrickfay@gmail.com wrote:
As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members. There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for bringing this up.
I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I am with Peter and Andrew on this
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce kk5do@arrl.net wrote:
the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
73...bruce
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone https://yho.com/footer0
On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
spatrickfay@gmail.com>
wrote:
As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
active
amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
look
at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
to
the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
never
look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
the
organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
website
up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members. There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for bringing this up.
I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I am with Peter and Andrew on this
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH kb1pvh@gmail.com wrote:
Peter,
Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S7
On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" plaws0@gmail.com wrote:
http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling the store. Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
happens
slowly. I get it. It's fine. More time is needed and that's OK -
no
one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
store,
you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
past,
off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or something.
-- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
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How much is an AMSAT membership ?
Can I get one in return for doing the web pages
Andrew
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On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an IT person either.
We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
73,
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Secretary Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay spatrickfay@gmail.com wrote:
The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376 between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
The website is not up to date.
It its 9/24 and its not open.
The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little oversight like this. UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website visitor. I joined and then apparently my father joined cause he is my elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to his ops. Every member represents more potential members because of vocal advocacy.
Its not pedantic, its reality.
The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern about UX and someone told them that if it bothers them to stop looking at it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers you quit looking at it?"
We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew. don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
QUOTED
the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
73...bruce
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On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay spatrickfay@gmail.com wrote:
As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members. There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for bringing this up.
I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I am with Peter and Andrew on this
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce kk5do@arrl.net wrote:
the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
73...bruce
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone https://yho.com/footer0
On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
spatrickfay@gmail.com>
wrote:
As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
active
amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
look
at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
to
the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
never
look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
the
organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
website
up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members. There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for bringing this up.
I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I am with Peter and Andrew on this
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH kb1pvh@gmail.com wrote:
Peter,
Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S7
On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" plaws0@gmail.com wrote:
http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling the store. Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
happens
slowly. I get it. It's fine. More time is needed and that's OK -
no
one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
store,
you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
past,
off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or something.
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Sorry, volunteering is volunteering. We get an occasional pat on the back, if we can reach behind us that far. ;-)
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
On 9/24/2016 21:14, Andrew Rich wrote:
How much is an AMSAT membership ?
Can I get one in return for doing the web pages
Andrew
Andrew Rich VK4TEC w www.tech-software.net m vk4tec@tech-software.net
On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an IT person either.
We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
73,
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Secretary Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay spatrickfay@gmail.com wrote:
The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376 between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
The website is not up to date.
It its 9/24 and its not open.
The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little oversight like this. UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website visitor. I joined and then apparently my father joined cause he is my elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to his ops. Every member represents more potential members because of vocal advocacy.
Its not pedantic, its reality.
The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern about UX and someone told them that if it bothers them to stop looking at it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers you quit looking at it?"
We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew. don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
QUOTED
the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
73...bruce
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone https://yho.com/footer0
On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay spatrickfay@gmail.com wrote:
As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members. There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for bringing this up.
I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I am with Peter and Andrew on this
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce kk5do@arrl.net wrote:
the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
73...bruce
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone https://yho.com/footer0
On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
spatrickfay@gmail.com>
wrote:
As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
active
amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
look
at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
to
the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
never
look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
the
organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
website
up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members. There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for bringing this up.
I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I am with Peter and Andrew on this
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH kb1pvh@gmail.com wrote:
Peter,
Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S7
On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" plaws0@gmail.com wrote:
http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling the store. Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
happens
slowly. I get it. It's fine. More time is needed and that's OK -
no
one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
store,
you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
past,
off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or something.
-- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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That's always the way Jerry you have to see past it
My wife volunteers for the cats and dogs
For her
Andrew
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On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:40, Jerry Buxton n0jy@amsat.org wrote:
Sorry, volunteering is volunteering. We get an occasional pat on the back, if we can reach behind us that far. ;-)
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
On 9/24/2016 21:14, Andrew Rich wrote: How much is an AMSAT membership ?
Can I get one in return for doing the web pages
Andrew
Andrew Rich VK4TEC w www.tech-software.net m vk4tec@tech-software.net
On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an IT person either.
We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
73,
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM Secretary Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay spatrickfay@gmail.com wrote:
The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376 between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
The website is not up to date.
It its 9/24 and its not open.
The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little oversight like this. UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website visitor. I joined and then apparently my father joined cause he is my elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to his ops. Every member represents more potential members because of vocal advocacy.
Its not pedantic, its reality.
The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern about UX and someone told them that if it bothers them to stop looking at it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers you quit looking at it?"
We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew. don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
QUOTED
the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
73...bruce
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone https://yho.com/footer0
On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay spatrickfay@gmail.com wrote:
As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members. There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for bringing this up.
I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I am with Peter and Andrew on this
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce kk5do@arrl.net wrote:
the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
73...bruce
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone https://yho.com/footer0
On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
spatrickfay@gmail.com>
wrote:
As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
active
amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
look
at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
to
the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
never
look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
the
organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
website
up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members. There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for bringing this up.
I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I am with Peter and Andrew on this
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH kb1pvh@gmail.com wrote:
Peter,
Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S7
> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" plaws0@gmail.com wrote: > > http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ > > I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling > the store. Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
happens
> slowly. I get it. It's fine. More time is needed and that's OK -
no
> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
store,
> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!). > > But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
past,
> off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or > something. > > > -- > Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! > _______________________________________________ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions > expressed > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of
> AMSAT-NA. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
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