Hello All,
A friend and I were discussing the actual physical size of a grid square in kilometers and or miles and we cannot come up with anything positive. Can anyone reading this provide us with those actual numbers? No real argument involved. Just a matter of curiosity..... Thank you in advance...
73 Frank, K0BLT
It depends on where you are in the world, as they're not really "square". Up towards the poles they get a pronounced triangular shape, on down by the Equator, they're more like a rectangle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maidenhead_Grid_Squares
73, Jim KQ6EA
--- Frank A Cahoy k0blt@juno.com wrote:
Hello All,
A friend and I were discussing the actual physical size of a grid square in kilometers and or miles and we cannot come up with anything positive. Can anyone reading this provide us with those actual numbers? No real argument involved. Just a matter of curiosity..... Thank you in advance...
73 Frank, K0BLT _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Every square is different - depends where the square is in the world.
http://www.arrl.org/locate/gridinfo.html
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank A Cahoy" k0blt@juno.com
A friend and I were discussing the actual physical size of a grid square in kilometers and or miles and we cannot come up with anything positive. Can anyone reading this provide us with those actual numbers? No real argument involved. Just a matter of curiosity..... Thank you in advance...
Every square is different - depends where the square is in the world.
http://www.arrl.org/locate/gridinfo.html
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank A Cahoy" k0blt@juno.com
A friend and I were discussing the actual physical size of a grid square in kilometers and or miles and we cannot come up with anything positive. Can anyone reading this provide us with those actual numbers? No real argument involved. Just a matter of curiosity..... Thank you in advance...
The area of a grid square is not uniform, it depends on your latitude. The "height" of a square formed by latitude and longitude lines is simply the difference in latitude, in degrees times 60 nautical miles. However the length of a segment of a latitude line between to longitudes in nautical miles is approximately the difference in longitudes times 60 times the cosine of the latitude. Only at the equator, latitude equals zero degrees, is length of a degree of latitude and a degree of longitude equal. The area of grid squares decreases as you move north or south away from the equator.
John WA4WDL
----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank A Cahoy" k0blt@juno.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 12:07 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Square..Physical Size??
Hello All,
A friend and I were discussing the actual physical size of a grid square in kilometers and or miles and we cannot come up with anything positive. Can anyone reading this provide us with those actual numbers? No real argument involved. Just a matter of curiosity..... Thank you in advance...
73 Frank, K0BLT _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
John, Good to hear from someone that knows navigation "Minute is a Mile", a 6000 foot Nautical mile making a second 100 feet in latitude. One other caviat, At the equator a "Grid Square" is a 2 degree longitude by one degree latitude rectangle and is most square at 60 degrees North or South Latitude ( COS 60 degrees = 0.5).
Art, KC6UQH ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Franke" jmfranke@cox.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org; "Frank A Cahoy" k0blt@juno.com Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 10:29 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Grid Square..Physical Size??
The area of a grid square is not uniform, it depends on your latitude. The "height" of a square formed by latitude and longitude lines is simply the difference in latitude, in degrees times 60 nautical miles. However the length of a segment of a latitude line between to longitudes in nautical miles is approximately the difference in longitudes times 60 times the cosine of the latitude. Only at the equator, latitude equals zero degrees, is length of a degree of latitude and a degree of longitude equal. The area of grid squares decreases as you move north or south away from the equator.
John WA4WDL
----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank A Cahoy" k0blt@juno.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 12:07 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Square..Physical Size??
Hello All,
A friend and I were discussing the actual physical size of a grid square in kilometers and or miles and we cannot come up with anything positive. Can anyone reading this provide us with those actual numbers? No real argument involved. Just a matter of curiosity..... Thank you in advance...
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~69.2 miles N-S, but E-W depends on the latitude. The E-W distance gets less as you head towards the poles as the longitude lines converge, so the size of the square changes.
73, Drew KO4MA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank A Cahoy" k0blt@juno.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 12:07 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Square..Physical Size??
Hello All,
A friend and I were discussing the actual physical size of a grid square in kilometers and or miles and we cannot come up with anything positive. Can anyone reading this provide us with those actual numbers? No real argument involved. Just a matter of curiosity..... Thank you in advance...
73 Frank, K0BLT _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
At 08:07 AM 7/1/2007, Frank A Cahoy wrote:
Hello All,
A friend and I were discussing the actual physical size of a grid square in kilometers and or miles and we cannot come up with anything positive. Can anyone reading this provide us with those actual numbers? No real argument involved. Just a matter of curiosity..... Thank you in advance...
73 Frank, K0BLT
There is not set size as it varies from roughly square dimensions near the equator to increasing taller but narrower one's at higher latitudes. Consider the grids that touch the north or south pole: they are triangles.
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Frank A Cahoy k0blt@juno.com asked
A friend and I were discussing the actual physical size of a grid square in kilometers and or miles and we cannot come up with anything positive. Can anyone reading this provide us with those actual numbers? No real argument involved. Just a matter of curiosity..... Thank you in advance...
1 degree of latitude = 60 minutes = 60 nautical miles (by definition)
1 nautical mile = 1.852 kilometers (by definition)
1 degree of latitude = 60 * 1.852 = 111.12 km
1 degree of longitude = 60 * 1.852 * cos(latitude) kilometers
At the equator, a grid square is approximately 222 by 111 kilometers.
At 60 degrees north a grid square is approximately square, because cos(60) = 0.5
If you want to bore people at parties, geometry on a sphere, with great circles for lines, is an example of a Riemannian geometry, where (among other things) the sum of the angles in a triangle always exceeds 180 degrees.
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Andrew Glasbrenner
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Edward Cole
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Frank A Cahoy
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Jim Jerzycke
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John Franke
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laura halliday
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Simon Brown
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Simon Brown (HB9DRV)