Gawd, did someone sue AMSAT-NA to obtain a membership email mailing list or something?
All sorts of campaign statements from folks who don’t deserve votes in my IN BOX this evening …
No need to reply.
Clint Bradford K6LCS
Hi Clint,
Since I am responsible for this, let me answer that question. All the candidates for AMSAT Board of Directors were given a mailing list containing the name, address and callsign of all AMSAT-NA members to be used to promote their candidacy to the membership. AMSAT does not have an official email list of members. I created the email list by cross referencing the callsigns from the membership with publicly available sources (QRZ.com). I offered to send emails on behalf of my two colleagues as well. Each email has an unsubscribe link that I immediately execute on reception. This mailing was not done by a third party. The list has an expiration date mandated by the secretary. You have several options if you do not to wish to receive email from me. You can delete it on sight, you can create a rule to automatically delete all email from me or you can unsubscribe and you will no longer receive email from me.
If you have any other questions or concerns please email me directly and I will be happy to assist.
Regards, Howie AB2S
________________________________ From: AMSAT-BB amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org on behalf of Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 1:08 AM To: AMSAT BB amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org Subject: [amsat-bb] Who Let THIS Info Out?
Gawd, did someone sue AMSAT-NA to obtain a membership email mailing list or something?
All sorts of campaign statements from folks who don’t deserve votes in my IN BOX this evening …
No need to reply.
Clint Bradford K6LCS _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
I was not “offended” not do I want to “un-subscribe” from your email messages.
I just though tit tedious to perform the work you did on this …
Clint K6LCS
On Aug 3, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Howie DeFelice howied231@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Clint,
Since I am responsible for this, let me answer that question. ...
And he shouldn't have had to. The rules were intended to allow all candidates access to AMSAT's publications for campaigning, which has never worked, and it's discriminatory because the incumbents get those publications as their pulpit year-round. And a postal mail list is provided to them because the rules were written in 1969.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 10:31 PM Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
I was not “offended” not do I want to “un-subscribe” from your email messages.
I just though tit tedious to perform the work you did on this …
Clint K6LCS
On Aug 3, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Howie DeFelice howied231@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi Clint,
Since I am responsible for this, let me answer that question. ...
Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Honestly, it's been extremely hard to take advantage of the publications and official procedures from the "inside".
Just speaking for myself, the minutes of the meetings that show what I've done as an individual for the organization haven't been published because they haven't been approved.
Because we never had another board meeting, there's no way the earlier minutes can be published. They are frozen in time.
Meanwhile, Officers and the majority Directors congratulate themselves publicly on all activity.
A very few people control all of the social media, website content, and column content in the AMSAT Journal.
I moved (and it was approved) for a bylaws committee to fix the things that Bruce is talking about. There are several election issues, with electronic voting roadblocks being a big one.
A bylaws committee is a big deal. It was a priority for Clayton Coleman. He and I talked about it on the phone twice. I committed to help, and I did. I am disappointed at the lack of follow through. The bylaws committee has yet to meet. They had plenty of time. The men selected for this job are qualified and can deliver good results. We should have been able to have this committee meet, have their recommendations incorporated into the bylaws, and offer electronic voting by 2020. Unlike other things we do, this is not rocket science.
I moved (and it was approved) for AMSAT to formally support the ARISS AREx project. This was a very high priority item for AREx. There were three levels of support. The first was a very simple expression of "official support" of the project. Publicly stating that the project was good for amateur radio and should happen. That happened due to this motion.
The regulatory work that I've done is completely invisible to the membership at this point, primarily because detailed minutes for the members cannot be published without regular board meetings.
Clayton appointed me to lead very important ITAR/EAR regulatory work. That would have also been in the minutes that the membership is prevented from seeing.
We have everything we need to fix several decades of painful regulatory bullshit. We have highly competent consultants, a motivated and competent volunteer lead, and people with the technical writing chops to produce a great policy document. We can't even get a board meeting to review the work.
Not having any board meetings for an entire year means these things stay invisible.
If you vote for Paul, Bruce, or Mark, then you will get another year of this exact same thing.
-Michelle W5NYV
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:32 AM Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
And he shouldn't have had to. The rules were intended to allow all candidates access to AMSAT's publications for campaigning, which has never worked, and it's discriminatory because the incumbents get those publications as their pulpit year-round. And a postal mail list is provided to them because the rules were written in 1969.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 10:31 PM Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
I was not “offended” not do I want to “un-subscribe” from your email messages.
I just though tit tedious to perform the work you did on this …
Clint K6LCS
On Aug 3, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Howie DeFelice howied231@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi Clint,
Since I am responsible for this, let me answer that question. ...
Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Electronic voting would be good. I still have not received a ballot by mail.
Steve Kristoff AI9IN
Oldenburg, Indiana EM79ji
----- Original Message ----- From: Michelle Thompson via AMSAT-BB (amsat-bb@amsat.org) Date: 08/04/20 15:27 To: Bruce Perens (bruce@perens.com) Cc: Clint Bradford (clintbradford@mac.com), AMSAT BB (amsat-bb@amsat.org) Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Who Let THIS Info Out?
Honestly, it's been extremely hard to take advantage of the publications and official procedures from the "inside".
Just speaking for myself, the minutes of the meetings that show what I've done as an individual for the organization haven't been published because they haven't been approved.
Because we never had another board meeting, there's no way the earlier minutes can be published. They are frozen in time.
Meanwhile, Officers and the majority Directors congratulate themselves publicly on all activity.
A very few people control all of the social media, website content, and column content in the AMSAT Journal.
I moved (and it was approved) for a bylaws committee to fix the things that Bruce is talking about. There are several election issues, with electronic voting roadblocks being a big one.
My goodness, the "infini-victims" strike again!
Joseph Armbruster KJ4JIO
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 3:32 AM Bruce Perens via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
And he shouldn't have had to. The rules were intended to allow all candidates access to AMSAT's publications for campaigning, which has never worked, and it's discriminatory because the incumbents get those publications as their pulpit year-round. And a postal mail list is provided to them because the rules were written in 1969.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 10:31 PM Clint Bradford via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
I was not “offended” not do I want to “un-subscribe” from your email messages.
I just though tit tedious to perform the work you did on this …
Clint K6LCS
On Aug 3, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Howie DeFelice howied231@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi Clint,
Since I am responsible for this, let me answer that question. ...
Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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