Has anybody else heard this --
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeqe0l7/Signal_436MHz.wav (recorded in USB mode) - in AM mode it just sounds like a constant tone -- The signal strength is not constant - and peaks about every 10 seconds - - A new radar perhaps?
I was running for some time yesterday (02/07/2011) and for at least an hour today (02/08/2011) stopping around 2100Z.
I'm located FM19 - I believe it's originating south of me.
Needless to say it makes the downlinks hard to copy!
Bruce WA3SWJ
Has anybody else heard this -- http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeqe0l7/Signal_436MHz.wav The signal strength is not constant - and peaks about every 10 seconds - - A new radar perhaps?
The 10 sec rotation rate nails it as an E6C Radar plane. Probably operating off the East Coast. I have been hearing it periodically for years, and getting ready for a satellite receive lab this week, it would have completely spoiled the lab. So I spent over an hour on the web and on the phone and finally got in touch with the right folks and when I said "10 seconds" they didn't need any more. That nailed it to an E6.
They are not supposed to operate on the UHF channel that overlaps the 400-420 MHz band anywhere near land, but it is unclear what the guidance is for the band 430-450 where HAMS ARE SECONDARY.
The above is my understanding, might not be exact.
To locate it would be hard... Swinging the beam doesn't help much, because the radar is rotating at the same time and giving all kinds of fluctuations per second... which would mask your attempts at peaking on it.
My best guess to locate it would be to get two hams on the phone separated by several hundred miles and to TIME the difference between the peak. That would establish an angle from the radar between the two hams. Then both hams compare signal strengths to an OMNI antenna (must be omni) and both must be calibrated for equal S meter readings. The difference in peak signal strength would get an idea of range ratio between the two stations. That and the angle (and ignoring the mirror solution over land) would get you a good idea where he is operating. (Maybe?)
Bob, WB4APR
a doppler fox hunt antenna system would get the direction also.
Joe WB9SBD
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On 2/8/2011 5:49 PM, Bob Bruninga wrote:
Has anybody else heard this -- http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeqe0l7/Signal_436MHz.wav The signal strength is not constant - and peaks about every 10 seconds - - A new radar perhaps?
The 10 sec rotation rate nails it as an E6C Radar plane. Probably operating off the East Coast. I have been hearing it periodically for years, and getting ready for a satellite receive lab this week, it would have completely spoiled the lab. So I spent over an hour on the web and on the phone and finally got in touch with the right folks and when I said "10 seconds" they didn't need any more. That nailed it to an E6.
They are not supposed to operate on the UHF channel that overlaps the 400-420 MHz band anywhere near land, but it is unclear what the guidance is for the band 430-450 where HAMS ARE SECONDARY.
The above is my understanding, might not be exact.
To locate it would be hard... Swinging the beam doesn't help much, because the radar is rotating at the same time and giving all kinds of fluctuations per second... which would mask your attempts at peaking on it.
My best guess to locate it would be to get two hams on the phone separated by several hundred miles and to TIME the difference between the peak. That would establish an angle from the radar between the two hams. Then both hams compare signal strengths to an OMNI antenna (must be omni) and both must be calibrated for equal S meter readings. The difference in peak signal strength would get an idea of range ratio between the two stations. That and the angle (and ignoring the mirror solution over land) would get you a good idea where he is operating. (Maybe?)
Bob, WB4APR
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Bob - Thanks for running that down. And you are exactly right - I could not get seem to get a signal strength peak at any compass heading.
At 06:49 PM 2/8/2011, Bob Bruninga wrote:
Has anybody else heard this -- http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeqe0l7/Signal_436MHz.wav The signal strength is not constant - and peaks about every 10 seconds - - A new radar perhaps?
The 10 sec rotation rate nails it as an E6C Radar plane. Probably operating off the East Coast. I have been hearing it periodically for years, and getting ready for a satellite receive lab this week, it would have completely spoiled the lab. So I spent over an hour on the web and on the phone and finally got in touch with the right folks and when I said "10 seconds" they didn't need any more. That nailed it to an E6.
They are not supposed to operate on the UHF channel that overlaps the 400-420 MHz band anywhere near land, but it is unclear what the guidance is for the band 430-450 where HAMS ARE SECONDARY.
The above is my understanding, might not be exact.
To locate it would be hard... Swinging the beam doesn't help much, because the radar is rotating at the same time and giving all kinds of fluctuations per second... which would mask your attempts at peaking on it.
My best guess to locate it would be to get two hams on the phone separated by several hundred miles and to TIME the difference between the peak. That would establish an angle from the radar between the two hams. Then both hams compare signal strengths to an OMNI antenna (must be omni) and both must be calibrated for equal S meter readings. The difference in peak signal strength would get an idea of range ratio between the two stations. That and the angle (and ignoring the mirror solution over land) would get you a good idea where he is operating. (Maybe?)
Bob, WB4APR
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