A considerate operating practice on FM (one channel) satellites, Europe
Hi all, This is a short version of an article I wrote in 2000 about using FM (single channel) satellites.
The reason for using bandwidth for it is that I listened to AO-16 at the pass with AOS at 1621 UTC here from Copenhagen. It was awful - but unfortunately just a repetition of what has been going on for the last couple of month on other FM satellites.
I do not think anyone made a real QSO. One particular radio amateur counted 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 over most of the pass ??
Short version: The golden rule - do not transmit if you can not hear the downlink.
Calling "CQ satellite" 3 - 4 or more times and give the call and the full locator at the same time is non-productive. It simply takes too long time. Experienced operators easily pick out new stations using a short CQ call. It is not really necessary to call CQ - just give your call.
Considerate operating practice allows a QSO to finish. Many operators on the FM satellites do not adhere to this. You very often find a station calling on top of a running QSO, which makes the QSO take much longer time than necessary. Often it is because the QSO takes a long time, which leads to the next "rule".
Make the QSO short when the satellite is busy. Valid QSO's just need to exchange calls and signal report. That is it. You do not need locator or operator name. If there is very little traffic OK go ahead and talk about anything - but not when the satellite is busy.
Here in Europe we also have the habit of asking for the full lokator. I have tried to avoid that, but I have failed in this respect. For a terrestrial QSO or in a contest you need the full lokator - but not for a satellite QSO.
A considerate operator will make one QSO per pass. If you are an experienced operator, who has made a lot of contacts before - limit your contacts to new stations.
Do not use the FM satellites to elaborate on the weather situation in your local area, when the satellite is busy.
Give priority to portable and mobile stations if they can hear the satellite.
Give DX stations (rare calls) a chance to get through. I have witnessed JW stations being "drowned" by local QSO's.
Look at your satellite tracking program in order to avoid calling stations that are out of the footprint.
If someone is really annoying - don't try to block their signal - try to send them an e-mail especially if they are from your own country.
Also respect if people want to use their own native language. It is perfectly OK to talk Danish, German or any other language, as long as they do not carry on for many minutes.
AND no - I do not want to be a policeman on the satellites :-) AND please no flames.
73 OZ1MY Ib
Ib,
this should be translated into all languages - that everyone comprehends this....
73, Mike DK3WN
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von OZ1MY Gesendet: Montag, 28. Januar 2008 20:09 An: AMSAT-BB Betreff: [amsat-bb] A considerate operating practice on FM (one channel) satellites, Europe
Hi all, This is a short version of an article I wrote in 2000 about using FM (single channel) satellites.
The reason for using bandwidth for it is that I listened to AO-16 at the pass with AOS at 1621 UTC here from Copenhagen. It was awful - but unfortunately just a repetition of what has been going on for the last couple of month on other FM satellites.
I do not think anyone made a real QSO. One particular radio amateur counted 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 over most of the pass ??
Short version: The golden rule - do not transmit if you can not hear the downlink.
Calling "CQ satellite" 3 - 4 or more times and give the call and the full locator at the same time is non-productive. It simply takes too long time. Experienced operators easily pick out new stations using a short CQ call. It is not really necessary to call CQ - just give your call.
Considerate operating practice allows a QSO to finish. Many operators on the FM satellites do not adhere to this. You very often find a station calling on top of a running QSO, which makes the QSO take much longer time than necessary. Often it is because the QSO takes a long time, which leads to the next "rule".
Make the QSO short when the satellite is busy. Valid QSO's just need to exchange calls and signal report. That is it. You do not need locator or operator name. If there is very little traffic OK go ahead and talk about anything - but not when the satellite is busy.
Here in Europe we also have the habit of asking for the full lokator. I have tried to avoid that, but I have failed in this respect. For a terrestrial QSO or in a contest you need the full lokator - but not for a satellite QSO.
A considerate operator will make one QSO per pass. If you are an experienced operator, who has made a lot of contacts before - limit your contacts to new stations.
Do not use the FM satellites to elaborate on the weather situation in your local area, when the satellite is busy.
Give priority to portable and mobile stations if they can hear the satellite.
Give DX stations (rare calls) a chance to get through. I have witnessed JW stations being "drowned" by local QSO's.
Look at your satellite tracking program in order to avoid calling stations that are out of the footprint.
If someone is really annoying - don't try to block their signal - try to send them an e-mail especially if they are from your own country.
Also respect if people want to use their own native language. It is perfectly OK to talk Danish, German or any other language, as long as they do not carry on for many minutes.
AND no - I do not want to be a policeman on the satellites :-) AND please no flames.
73 OZ1MY Ib
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Excellent reminders. Thank you for posting.
73, Ollie AJ1O
On Jan 28, 2008, at 12:08 PM, OZ1MY wrote:
Hi all, This is a short version of an article I wrote in 2000 about using FM (single channel) satellites.
The reason for using bandwidth for it is that I listened to AO-16 at the pass with AOS at 1621 UTC here from Copenhagen. It was awful - but unfortunately just a repetition of what has been going on for the last couple of month on other FM satellites.
I do not think anyone made a real QSO. One particular radio amateur counted 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 over most of the pass ??
Short version: The golden rule - do not transmit if you can not hear the downlink.
Calling "CQ satellite" 3 - 4 or more times and give the call and the full locator at the same time is non-productive. It simply takes too long time. Experienced operators easily pick out new stations using a short CQ call. It is not really necessary to call CQ - just give your call.
Considerate operating practice allows a QSO to finish. Many operators on the FM satellites do not adhere to this. You very often find a station calling on top of a running QSO, which makes the QSO take much longer time than necessary. Often it is because the QSO takes a long time, which leads to the next "rule".
Make the QSO short when the satellite is busy. Valid QSO's just need to exchange calls and signal report. That is it. You do not need locator or operator name. If there is very little traffic OK go ahead and talk about anything - but not when the satellite is busy.
Here in Europe we also have the habit of asking for the full lokator. I have tried to avoid that, but I have failed in this respect. For a terrestrial QSO or in a contest you need the full lokator - but not for a satellite QSO.
A considerate operator will make one QSO per pass. If you are an experienced operator, who has made a lot of contacts before - limit your contacts to new stations.
Do not use the FM satellites to elaborate on the weather situation in your local area, when the satellite is busy.
Give priority to portable and mobile stations if they can hear the satellite.
Give DX stations (rare calls) a chance to get through. I have witnessed JW stations being "drowned" by local QSO's.
Look at your satellite tracking program in order to avoid calling stations that are out of the footprint.
If someone is really annoying - don't try to block their signal - try to send them an e-mail especially if they are from your own country.
Also respect if people want to use their own native language. It is perfectly OK to talk Danish, German or any other language, as long as they do not carry on for many minutes.
AND no - I do not want to be a policeman on the satellites :-) AND please no flames.
73 OZ1MY Ib
At 06:08 AM 1/29/2008, OZ1MY wrote:
Hi all, This is a short version of an article I wrote in 2000 about using FM (single channel) satellites.
You may also be interested in something similar I wrote around the same time... http://vkradio.com/satiquette.html
I find this business of chasing gridsquares on FM satellites to be a recipe for disaster (be better if that was confined to CW/SSB, where there's more capacity and less demand), as it increases the demand on an already overloaded resource. Over here, you don't normally hear gridsquares on the birds (well I certainly didn't when I was active). Guess having 95% of operators in half a dozen grids helps - could collect them all in 2 passes on the same day if you're lucky! :)
Down, I have seen a wide range of passes, from busy when SO-35 was active, to literally having a pass to myself - I could certainly hear the downlink, but no one else was on...
73 de VK3JED http://vkradio.com
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