This is an important debate in difficult times. I am with G7HIA on this one, namely that *** if there is no damage to the satellite *** a QRP (below 5w handy) operation might be considered to be feasible on a centre frequency. It is not our bird to give permission. There are of course two transponders on board. If permission were given ONLY for QRP in effect this means that WE must police this. It would be for us to discorage alligators. (Technically alligators can already use the bird anyway but don't). 73 de andy g0sfj
I have expanded capabilities. I have an ICOM IC910 with the L band added module and last operated on vo-52 in usb, and I am fluent in cw too...but it's difficult to carry this kit by hand (hi!) so I do qrp with an Arrow as well, from all over Europe. And I haven't been able to get into SO-50 for some time on below 5W. AO27 only kicks in for half the pass here. ;>) 73 de andy g0sfj
----- Forwarded Message ----- From: andy thomas andythomasmail@yahoo.co.uk To: amsat amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2011, 13:51 Subject: VO52 and QRP FM
This is an important debate in difficult times.
I am with G7HIA on this one, namely that *** if there is no damage to the satellite *** a QRP (below 5w handy) operation might be considered to be feasible on a centre frequency.
It is not our bird to give permission. There are of course two transponders on board.
If permission were given ONLY for QRP in effect this means that WE must police this. It would be for us to discorage alligators.
(Technically alligators can already use the bird anyway but don't).
73 de andy g0sfj
Would you accept somebody using FM on the 80m band just because he finds SSB too expensive or too difficult to operate?
Am 03.12.2011 15:41, schrieb andy thomas:
I have expanded capabilities. I have an ICOM IC910 with the L band added module and last operated on vo-52 in usb, and I am fluent in cw too...but it's difficult to carry this kit by hand (hi!) so I do qrp with an Arrow as well, from all over Europe.
And I haven't been able to get into SO-50 for some time on below 5W. AO27 only kicks in for half the pass here.
;>)
73 de andy g0sfj
----- Forwarded Message ----- From: andy thomasandythomasmail@yahoo.co.uk To: amsatamsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2011, 13:51 Subject: VO52 and QRP FM
This is an important debate in difficult times.
I am with G7HIA on this one, namely that *** if there is no damage to the satellite *** a QRP (below 5w handy) operation might be considered to be feasible on a centre frequency.
It is not our bird to give permission. There are of course two transponders on board.
If permission were given ONLY for QRP in effect this means that WE must police this. It would be for us to discorage alligators.
(Technically alligators can already use the bird anyway but don't).
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----- Original Message ----- From: "andy thomas" andythomasmail@yahoo.co.uk To: "amsat" amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 3:41 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: VO52 and QRP FM
I have expanded capabilities. I have an ICOM IC910 with the L band added module and last operated on vo-52 in usb, and I am fluent in cw too...but it's difficult to carry this kit by hand (hi!) so I do qrp with an Arrow as well, from all over Europe.
And I haven't been able to get into SO-50 for some time on below 5W. AO27 only kicks in for half the pass here.
;>)
73 de andy g0sfj
Hi Andy, G0SFJ
It's impossible to access VO-52 in FM with a 5 watt HT and arrow antennas because for a decent QSO on CW and SSB you need at least 50 watt and a 13 dBi 70 cm antenna.
Do not try to access VO-52 in FM with your IC910
We, operators of VO-52 linear transponder on CW and SSB in Europe we have a lot of counter measures against any FM intruder into the VO-52 linear passband.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
Don't be so xxx rude. I do not operate on vo52 in FM and never have.
________________________________ From: i8cvs domenico.i8cvs@tin.it To: andy thomas andythomasmail@yahoo.co.uk; amsat amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2011, 17:39 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fw: VO52 and QRP FM
----- Original Message ----- From: "andy thomas" andythomasmail@yahoo.co.uk To: "amsat" amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 3:41 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: VO52 and QRP FM
I have expanded capabilities. I have an ICOM IC910 with the L band added module and last operated on vo-52 in usb, and I am fluent in cw too...but it's difficult to carry this kit by hand (hi!) so I do qrp with an Arrow as well, from all over Europe.
And I haven't been able to get into SO-50 for some time on below 5W. AO27 only kicks in for half the pass here.
;>)
73 de andy g0sfj
Hi Andy, G0SFJ
It's impossible to access VO-52 in FM with a 5 watt HT and arrow antennas because for a decent QSO on CW and SSB you need at least 50 watt and a 13 dBi 70 cm antenna.
Do not try to access VO-52 in FM with your IC910
We, operators of VO-52 linear transponder on CW and SSB in Europe we have a lot of counter measures against any FM intruder into the VO-52 linear passband.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message ----- From: "andy thomas" andythomasmail@yahoo.co.uk To: "amsat" amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 2:51 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] VO52 and QRP FM
This is an important debate in difficult times.
I am with G7HIA on this one, namely that *** if there is no damage to the satellite *** a QRP (below 5w handy) operation might be considered to be feasible on a centre frequency.
It is not our bird to give permission. There are of course two transponders on board.
If permission were given ONLY for QRP in effect this means that WE must police this. It would be for us to discorage alligators.
(Technically alligators can already use the bird anyway but don't).
73 de andy g0sfj
Hi Andy, G0SFJ
Do not try to infect VO-52 with FM
CW and SSB is just what you and the others have to do.
BTW, you can't access VO-52 in FM with a 5 watt HT and arrow antennas because for a decent QSO in CW and SSB you need at least 50 watt and a 13 dBi 70 cm antenna.
We, operators of VO-52 linear transponder on CW and SSB we have a lot of counter measures against any FM intruder into the VO-52 linear passband.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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