I don't know the current status. I will be listening to see if the crossband repeater is up and running on the 17:03utc pass on 145.8.

Dave, AA4KN

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hi folks, have not heard anything on 145.825 and was wondering if the packet is off on the iss? anyone know the status? kc8gkf

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Up until yesterday I was copying them on 145.825...but not a single signal yesterday.

Fred VE3FAL

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:14:39 -0400 Luc Leblanc [email protected] wrote:

On 30 Oct 2008 at 10:02, David J wrote:

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I don't know the current status. I will be listening to see if the crossband repeater is up and running on the 17:03utc pass on 145.8.

Dave, AA4KN

ISS was on packet at 145.800mhz on the 1502Z pass here in FN36KA

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Looks like Mike got in a rush and didn't select the correct (145.825) packet channel but got the old one by mistake. I'm sure he'll catch it the next time he uses the radio. Sorry for the confusion.

Kenneth - N5VHO

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David J Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:25 PM To: VE3FAL-Fred; [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: iss packet off?

They are operating TX at 145.99 and RX at 145.8 with good signals.

Dave, AA4KN

----- Original Message ----- From: "VE3FAL-Fred" [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:29 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: iss packet off?

Up until yesterday I was copying them on 145.825...but not a single

signal

yesterday.

Fred VE3FAL

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On 30 Oct 2008 at 10:02, David J wrote:

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I don't know the current status. I will be listening to see if the crossband repeater is up and running on the 17:03utc pass on 145.8.

Dave, AA4KN

ISS was on packet at 145.800mhz on the 1502Z pass here in FN36KA

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I recently acquired a Yaesu FT-847 for use primarily with satellites. Previously I used a Kenwood TS-2000, but decided to go with the 847 due to the 2000's known birdies on the output of some of the FM satellites.

I use Ham Radio Deluxe, but used SATPC32 on the Kenwood. I had no problems at all with the SSB birds on the Kenwood & SATPC32. However, with the Yaesu FT-847, I find that SATPC32 will no longer 'see' the radio. It won't place the radio into satellite mode, and it won't change the frequencies depending on the satellites I click from the 'shortcuts' on the bottom right.

I have doubled-checked the wiring on the RS-232 cable, 5 for ground, and 2 & 3 crossed (null modem cable). I'm sure it's not the cable, since Ham Radio Deluxe can see and control the radio's frequency.

I'm wondering if there is a problem with either the radio, or if there is something that I need to do in SATPC32 in order to change over to the Yaesu. Obviously under Setup, Radio Setup, I have selected Yaesu, Model FT-847, Com port 1, and CAT delay of 20. However, I don't see anywhere to tell the program what the baud rate of the radio is. I have tried 4800, 9600 and 57600 with the same lack of success. I see there is a file called yaesupar.sqf in the directory of SATPC32, however I can't find anything in the documentation about what, if anything, needs to be entered in that file.

I should also note a couple of other things. On the rig's menu item # 41, for X RPT which is cross repeat, I can't change it from OFF, it's stuck there, no matter what I do. I wonder if that has anything to do with the problem.

In addition in Ham Radio Deluxe, if I use the new HRD Sat Track program, which is a beta release, I can't connect to the radio using the IP server. It briefly displays FT-847, and then it immediately goes away. However, if I use Digital Master 780, which is used for digital modes, it can control the radio without any problems, so I think I have narrowed it down to a problem with SATPC32.

I hope someone can help me, as I would really like to use this rig on the satellites.

73 de W4AS Sebastian

On Nov 2, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Erich Eichmann wrote:

Hello Sebastian, to set the CAT baudrate in SatPC32 click on the control right of the word "Model" in the upper one of the 2 combo boxes in the SatPC32 menu "Radio Setup". In the list that opens select "Baudrate" and in the lower combo box select the baudrate (57600 work fine). Save the settings and restart the program.

73s, Erich, DK1TB

It can also be changed in a menu on the FT-847. Check the menu setting. (I forget which one it is, and I'm away from the shack at the moment.)

-- Nate Duehr [email protected]

Wow, that was easy. I am eternally grateful! It works now. Not an intuitive way of programming (IMHO); the documentation states "there are 2 combo boxes in the upper left side of the menu. The upper one contains the parameters that have to be set (Model, Baud rate), the lower one contains the settings available for the selected parameter".

I read that, and read it again, and I thought it was referring to a different version of SATPC32, since that description was not clear to me, but your explanation was a lot easier to understand. I guess it was just a long day, of putting back up my satellite antennas, installing new preamps, the radio, etc. Must have made me dizzy doing all of that in one day!

And Nate, thanks but I'm aware of how to change the baud rate on the radio, the problem was with the software.

And Luc, I don't know what club you are talking about; I don't feel that I'm stuck with a radio with problems. Mine was sold to the original owner on December 2002, so I don't think it's one of the early ones. As far as HRD, it works fine with my 847, but I can't get the latest satellite 'test' version (1901) to see either my Kenwood TS-2000 or Yaesu FT-847.

73 de W4AS Sebastian

On Nov 2, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Erich Eichmann wrote:

Hello Sebastian, to set the CAT baudrate in SatPC32 click on the control right of the word "Model" in the upper one of the 2 combo boxes in the SatPC32 menu "Radio Setup". In the list that opens select "Baudrate" and in the lower combo box select the baudrate (57600 work fine). Save the settings and restart the program.

73s, Erich, DK1TB

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sebastian" [email protected] To: "AMSAT BB" [email protected]; <ham-radio- [email protected]>; [email protected] Cc: "WZ4I - Mark Harrison" [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu FT-847

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I recently acquired a Yaesu FT-847 for use primarily with satellites. Previously I used a Kenwood TS-2000, but decided to go with the 847 due to the 2000's known birdies on the output of some of the FM satellites.

I use Ham Radio Deluxe, but used SATPC32 on the Kenwood. I had no problems at all with the SSB birds on the Kenwood & SATPC32. However, with the Yaesu FT-847, I find that SATPC32 will no longer 'see' the radio. It won't place the radio into satellite mode, and it won't change the frequencies depending on the satellites I click from the 'shortcuts' on the bottom right.

I have doubled-checked the wiring on the RS-232 cable, 5 for ground, and 2 & 3 crossed (null modem cable). I'm sure it's not the cable, since Ham Radio Deluxe can see and control the radio's frequency.

I'm wondering if there is a problem with either the radio, or if there is something that I need to do in SATPC32 in order to change over to the Yaesu. Obviously under Setup, Radio Setup, I have selected Yaesu, Model FT-847, Com port 1, and CAT delay of 20. However, I don't see anywhere to tell the program what the baud rate of the radio is. I have tried 4800, 9600 and 57600 with the same lack of success. I see there is a file called yaesupar.sqf in the directory of SATPC32, however I can't find anything in the documentation about what, if anything, needs to be entered in that file.

I should also note a couple of other things. On the rig's menu item # 41, for X RPT which is cross repeat, I can't change it from OFF, it's stuck there, no matter what I do. I wonder if that has anything to do with the problem.

In addition in Ham Radio Deluxe, if I use the new HRD Sat Track program, which is a beta release, I can't connect to the radio using the IP server. It briefly displays FT-847, and then it immediately goes away. However, if I use Digital Master 780, which is used for digital modes, it can control the radio without any problems, so I think I have narrowed it down to a problem with SATPC32.

I hope someone can help me, as I would really like to use this rig on the satellites.

73 de W4AS Sebastian

On 3 Nov 2008 at 8:56, Sebastian wrote:

Wow, that was easy. I am eternally grateful! It works now. Not an intuitive way of programming (IMHO); the documentation states "there are 2 combo boxes in the upper left side of the menu. The upper one contains the parameters that have to be set (Model, Baud rate), the lower one contains the settings available for the selected parameter".

I read that, and read it again, and I thought it was referring to a different version of SATPC32, since that description was not clear to me, but your explanation was a lot easier to understand. I guess it was just a long day, of putting back up my satellite antennas, installing new preamps, the radio, etc. Must have made me dizzy doing all of that in one day!

And Nate, thanks but I'm aware of how to change the baud rate on the radio, the problem was with the software.

And Luc, I don't know what club you are talking about; I don't feel that I'm stuck with a radio with problems. Mine was sold to the original owner on December 2002, so I don't think it's one of the early ones. As far as HRD, it works fine with my 847, but I can't get the latest satellite 'test' version (1901) to see either my Kenwood TS-2000 or Yaesu FT-847.

73 de W4AS Sebastian

You propbably have a version with the issue corrected or with a serial number starting with 8G05xxxx

Cat Control Operations

The FT-847 seems to have a set of unique op codes for CAT control. Yaesu in general, does not appear to have a consistent set of codes for any of their radios (unlike Kenwood for example).

Given that, you can't select another radio in a software offering that doesn't show the FT-847 specifically.

The original design for the FT-847 did not include two-way CAT control operations for frequency and mode. You could use your PC to give commands to the radio, but the radio could not report back any frequency or mode information to the PC. Many, including QST, complained about this shortfall, and the company modified the firmware in the radio to enable two-way CAT control operations for frequency and mode. Starting with serial number 8G05xxxx , two-way CAT control is standard.

In a real credit to Yaesu, it offered to upgrade any earlier model radios to the two-way CAT control, so many of the earlier models have two-way CAT control. If you're buying a used FT-847, ask if it has been upgraded.

The CAT control for the FT-847 does not convey the final digit (i.e., the ones digit) under any circumstances, so no external software can ever resolve any frequency better than 10 Hz. The FT-847 itself resolves to 1 Hz.

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On Nov 2 2008, Luc Leblanc wrote:

On 2 Nov 2008 at 12:40, Sebastian wrote:

Welcome in the club...

You probably get one of their first model where the CAT system cannot be read by PC's he can only received commands from the PC. This problem has been corrected on later model..

I just hope your HRD is working as up till now only FT-847 super control is working. It's like when you buy the first model of a new car model you are stuck with issues time to time on the first version...

Hi, Luc.

My FT-847 was an early production model, and had the incompletely functioning firmware that prevented bi-directional communication. I sent mine in for some factory service years ago, and they upgraded the firmware to the current full-featured version at no extra cost. I don't know for sure if that is still an option for you, assuming that you have an older FT-847 like that, from your comment about being "in the club" with an early model.

As we found out, Sebastian got his problem taken care of, and it wasn't the firmware problem. I suspected that it would turn out to be something else (as it did), because in his original posting, he said, "...since Ham Radio Deluxe can see and control the radio's frequency..." The hallmark of the old firmware was that the computer could NOT READ the frequency or mode information, it could only WRITE the frequency or mode to the radio. If HRD could see the radio's frequency, he had to have the newer firmware. I didn't chime in right away, since I have absolutely zero first-hand experience with any of the software he was working with. (Back in the days when I actually had a little free time, I experimented with writing my own software to communicate with the FT-847.) I still love the radio and would not want to part with mine.

73 de WØJT John P. Toscano, AMSAT-NA LM#2292