It sad... These moon deniers are just continuing evidence of the gowing ignorance coming out of our education system.

They just believe anything that some smooth talking talk show personality puts out there. Since they can't make sense of the real world through knowledge and learning and education, they grab onto to crazy ideas of others so that they have some sense of belonging to a community of like minded people.

There was a report last week about more than 50% of high school graduates in Maryland have to take remedial math before they can begin their college education. And we are not talking about high math, they can't even do basic math like multiply 7 x 9. There is no value to arguing with these people or bringing them fact, because they lack basic fundamentals of science and physics on which to build understanding.

Witness the the growth of "belief" based knowledge as opposed to science based knowldedge. And attempts to make them equal...

I fear for our future.

Bob

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John P.

Toscano

Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!

William Leijenaar wrote:

...

The news is full again of the moon landings, where NASA

claims to have new evidence, which makes me laugh again. I have the same idea like LeRoy, KD8BXP. When the information is only from one source it is not reliable at all, every scientist should know.

...

This doesn't mean that I state no man has been on the moon,

for me it is just not clear.

William:

If one is truly skeptical of the truth of NASA's claims to have landed men on the moon and brought them back to earth safely, then it is only natural to claim that nothing that NASA says will be accepted as proof of having accomplished the deed. The only thing that NASA

could do to

convince a true skeptic is to land that person on the moon and

bring

them home again. (Wouldn't that be a treat?)

On the other hand, we should be clear that NASA is *NOT* claiming that these pictures are "evidence that they really were there".

They are

(rightly) very proud of the extreme resolution of the pictures

coming

from the new Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO), and wanted to

"show

off" how good the pictures are. Of course, they chose to image targets that would pique the interest of as many folks as possible.

For that

reason, choosing to show photographs of the moon landing sites

surely

fulfills the criterion of generating lots of interest.

You are certainly entitled to your disbelief. But attributing

these

photos to a claim by NASA as evidence of the moon landings is a little bit too negative for my taste. I think that they are fully aware of the fact that any "proof" they could provide would be discounted

by the

skeptics because of its source. The web pages I saw never said anything about offering proof of prior successful landings on the moon. They are simply "showing off" their latest interesting photos.

By the way, do you also believe that all of the fantastic pictures from the Hubble Space Telescope were created in Photoshop instead

of being

real images of far away space objects? Oh, sorry, that's a bit

off-topic, and only a rhetorical question. No need to reply to

that.

...

I would like to see pictures from another nations

satellite, in higher resolution. I believe we will soon know, as there are several countries wanting to go to the moon. I am looking forward to their pictures and the state of the equipment left on the moon, in case the landings were no film studio work :o)

I, too, would welcome more pictures! (See, it really is an interesting target to photograph!)

...

For the moment I keep it more close to the earth with my

small transponder work,

The AMSAT community is indeed highly indebted to you for your hard work in this area. Thank you very much for your efforts in making

small

linear transponders for satellites.

...

Maybe in the future there will be a chance to have a

moon-ponder :o)

Maybe, and maybe not. But if no one ever dreams of it, it will certainly never come to pass. Wanting to take the journey is the very

first of

many, many steps in the journey, but one that is not optional

if the

journey is ever going to be undertaken.

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A lot of people believe that the existence of God is a hoax and that has been going for several thousand years without a conclusive outcome.

Joe wrote:

Explain me this,,For something as big as NASA to be a hoax there would be 10s of thousands of people in on it for 50+ years. and not one of them has talked? Thats unbelivable. Take crop circles, which is a fairly obvious hoax, there was 2 old drunks in england doing them and they talked about it and showed how they did them after just a couple of years. Yet there are people who actually still think that flying saucers are making them.