(Forgive me for asking; I know that I have read a write-up somewhere, but can't find it now.)
It is my perception that some portable operators are using these Chinese HT's (specifically BaoFeng) along with their Arrow Antennas. Maybe that I am wrong.
Which model is being used, if that is so. Thanks.
Jerry AB5R
I use the Baofeng UV-5R and a Wouxon KG-UV6D. I use the Baofeng as a transmit radio and the Wouxon for receive. The Wouxon has a freq knob on top of the radio. Makes changing frequencies so easy. I have to say I love the Baofeng. For the $28 (with shipping) it is a solid radio. I have used this two radio setup with my arrow for a few months and have had zero issues.
Good luck
Chad KG0MW
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 29, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Gerald Payton gp_ab5r@outlook.com wrote:
(Forgive me for asking; I know that I have read a write-up somewhere, but can't find it now.)
It is my perception that some portable operators are using these Chinese HT's (specifically BaoFeng) along with their Arrow Antennas. Maybe that I am wrong.
Which model is being used, if that is so. Thanks.
Jerry AB5R _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
If you can avoid using the Baofeng on 2m transmit, things will probably work better, as several studies have indicated the UV-5R often fails 3rd harmonic suppression requirements -- this would tend to desense the 70cm RX, especially on a shared boom antenna like the arrow.
That would be an issue for SO-50, but not Fox-1.
73, Bob, WB4SON
Gerald, I'll paste WD9EWK's latest post on this which contains a link to his previous post on other Chinese radios. Patrick has done extensive evaluations of this subject. Good Luck
73, Ted K7TRK
From Patrick:
"I don't have a KG file to share, but those should not be shared between radios anyway. Those files are not like the config files used in the "normal" ham radios like you get from Icom, Kenwood, and Yaesu. But I can offer some suggestions and advice...
The KG-UV8D is not capable of working SO-50 full-duplex. When you transmit on 2m, the 70cm receiver is desensed. You won't hear the satellite again until you stop transmitting. The radio is capable of working AO-85 full-duplex. I wrote about this on the AMSAT-BB list a year ago, and you can see that message at:
http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-November/056254.html
I do not use memory channels for working AO-85. I use the two VFOs, open the squelch all the way for the receive VFO, and transmit from the other VFO. That link has some key settings I used with that radio.
You can program a group of memory channels to work SO-50 half- duplex. A guide for that is available from AMSAT's Station and Operating Hints page at:
http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=2144
(look for the document "Operating FM Satellites")
Or use another HT with your KG-UV8D, so you can transmit from one radio while listening to the other radio for full-duplex operation.
If you want to use an HT to work both AO-85 and SO-50 full-duplex, there is only one option currently in production: Kenwood TH-D72A. The new TH-D74A is not capable of full-duplex operation for any FM satellite. Wouxun's KG-UV9D, like the KG-UV8D, is capable of working AO-85 full-duplex, but not SO-50. Along with the KG-UV8D, I wrote about a few other Chinese-made HTs and tried using them to work FM satellites full-duplex. They could do that with AO-85, but not SO-50. You can get to the messages covering the other radios I wrote about at:
http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-December/056269.html
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK"
-----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Gerald Payton Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 1:51 PM To: Amsat BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Radios
(Forgive me for asking; I know that I have read a write-up somewhere, but can't find it now.)
It is my perception that some portable operators are using these Chinese HT's (specifically BaoFeng) along with their Arrow Antennas. Maybe that I am wrong.
Which model is being used, if that is so. Thanks.
Jerry AB5R _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Gerald,
I can confirm WD9EWK's findings on the Woxun radios. I used to own a UV8D and now a UV9D. These are pretty decent little rigs for working AO-85 in full duplex. I haven't done much on Fox with an Arrow but it works great with my Elk.
I can also confirm that these rigs won't do full duplex on SO-50 because of desense. I've tried several configurations including stock Arrow and Elk antennas. I also tried again after I cut down my Arrow into a 2x4 element. I seen this done by W5PFG and decided to give it shot. It did not help anything on my UV9D but it's worth noting that it eliminated the desense I was getting on my FT-8900.
One thing I do with SO-50 on these rigs is to leave the VFO I'm using for downlink as main so you can easily adjust for Doppler. I then use the secondary PTT function to key up the other VFO set for uplink. This will keep you from having to switch back and forth between VFOs to adjust RX and jump back for TX. On AO-85 I've only ever had to adjust for Doppler on the uplink so I just leave it as main.
73! Mike Diehl - AI6GS
On Nov 29, 2016, at 3:02 PM, Ted k7trkradio@charter.net wrote:
Gerald, I'll paste WD9EWK's latest post on this which contains a link to his previous post on other Chinese radios. Patrick has done extensive evaluations of this subject. Good Luck
73, Ted K7TRK
From Patrick:
"I don't have a KG file to share, but those should not be shared between radios anyway. Those files are not like the config files used in the "normal" ham radios like you get from Icom, Kenwood, and Yaesu. But I can offer some suggestions and advice...
The KG-UV8D is not capable of working SO-50 full-duplex. When you transmit on 2m, the 70cm receiver is desensed. You won't hear the satellite again until you stop transmitting. The radio is capable of working AO-85 full-duplex. I wrote about this on the AMSAT-BB list a year ago, and you can see that message at:
http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-November/056254.html
I do not use memory channels for working AO-85. I use the two VFOs, open the squelch all the way for the receive VFO, and transmit from the other VFO. That link has some key settings I used with that radio.
You can program a group of memory channels to work SO-50 half- duplex. A guide for that is available from AMSAT's Station and Operating Hints page at:
http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=2144
(look for the document "Operating FM Satellites")
Or use another HT with your KG-UV8D, so you can transmit from one radio while listening to the other radio for full-duplex operation.
If you want to use an HT to work both AO-85 and SO-50 full-duplex, there is only one option currently in production: Kenwood TH-D72A. The new TH-D74A is not capable of full-duplex operation for any FM satellite. Wouxun's KG-UV9D, like the KG-UV8D, is capable of working AO-85 full-duplex, but not SO-50. Along with the KG-UV8D, I wrote about a few other Chinese-made HTs and tried using them to work FM satellites full-duplex. They could do that with AO-85, but not SO-50. You can get to the messages covering the other radios I wrote about at:
http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-December/056269.html
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ Twitter: @WD9EWK"
-----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Gerald Payton Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 1:51 PM To: Amsat BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Chinese Radios
(Forgive me for asking; I know that I have read a write-up somewhere, but can't find it now.)
It is my perception that some portable operators are using these Chinese HT's (specifically BaoFeng) along with their Arrow Antennas. Maybe that I am wrong.
Which model is being used, if that is so. Thanks.
Jerry AB5R _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
participants (5)
-
Bob -
Chad Phillips -
Gerald Payton -
Mike Diehl -
Ted