Mike,
For reasons which have to do with AO-85 being launched on a NRO mission, there are permanent restrictions on the dissemination of its Keps. The only place you can download them is the AMSAT list. It is called nasabare.txt, though your program may call it something different such as "Amateur (amsat.org)." I don't use GPredict so can't give you details, but the issue exists no matter what program you are using.
73,
Alan WA4SCA
<-----Original Message----- <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of <radiomb <Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 21:55 PM <To: [email protected] <Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 in Gpredict < < <Hello, Seeing the posts I downloaded Gpredict to give it a try. I could not find <AO-85 (FOX-1A) in satellites listed. Even AO-91 is in the current list. Can it be <under some other name? I found a way to add a bird but looks like a pain to <update. Easy way? And if AO-91 is in the list why was AO-85 left out?TNX 73 <Mike K4MIA <_______________________________________________ <Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions <expressed <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT- <NA. <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <program! <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
As a side note, I am trying to understand hat purpose is served by restricting the keps to a single public distribution point. I am failing. Is there an actual realistic rationale, or is this yet another example of security theater?
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________________________________ From: AMSAT-BB [email protected] on behalf of Alan [email protected] Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:18:21 AM To: 'radiomb'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 in GPredict
Mike,
For reasons which have to do with AO-85 being launched on a NRO mission, there are permanent restrictions on the dissemination of its Keps. The only place you can download them is the AMSAT list. It is called nasabare.txt, though your program may call it something different such as "Amateur (amsat.org)." I don't use GPredict so can't give you details, but the issue exists no matter what program you are using.
73,
Alan WA4SCA
<-----Original Message----- <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of <radiomb <Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 21:55 PM <To: [email protected] <Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 in Gpredict < < <Hello, Seeing the posts I downloaded Gpredict to give it a try. I could not find <AO-85 (FOX-1A) in satellites listed. Even AO-91 is in the current list. Can it be <under some other name? I found a way to add a bird but looks like a pain to <update. Easy way? And if AO-91 is in the list why was AO-85 left out?TNX 73 <Mike K4MIA <_______________________________________________ <Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions <expressed <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT- <NA. <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <program! <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Security theater. Obviously all the governments that we don't want knowing exactly what orbit the primary payload(s) on that flight are in have their own tracking systems.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Devin L. Ganger [email protected] wrote:
As a side note, I am trying to understand hat purpose is served by restricting the keps to a single public distribution point. I am failing. Is there an actual realistic rationale, or is this yet another example of security theater?
Sent from my Windows 10 phone
From: AMSAT-BB [email protected] on behalf of Alan [email protected] Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:18:21 AM To: 'radiomb'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 in GPredict
Mike,
For reasons which have to do with AO-85 being launched on a NRO mission, there are permanent restrictions on the dissemination of its Keps. The only place you can download them is the AMSAT list. It is called nasabare.txt, though your program may call it something different such as "Amateur (amsat.org)." I don't use GPredict so can't give you details, but the issue exists no matter what program you are using.
73,
Alan WA4SCA
<-----Original Message----- <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of <radiomb <Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 21:55 PM <To: [email protected] <Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 in Gpredict < < <Hello, Seeing the posts I downloaded Gpredict to give it a try. I could not find <AO-85 (FOX-1A) in satellites listed. Even AO-91 is in the current list. Can it be <under some other name? I found a way to add a bird but looks like a pain to <update. Easy way? And if AO-91 is in the list why was AO-85 left out?TNX 73 <Mike K4MIA <_______________________________________________ <Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions <expressed <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT- <NA. <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <program! <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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On 12/2/2017 12:08, Devin L. Ganger wrote:
As a side note, I am trying to understand hat purpose is served by restricting the keps to a single public distribution point. I am failing. Is there an actual realistic rationale, or is this yet another example of security theater?
Do not feel so bad, JSpOC won't even add it to my Operator account for AMSAT, on Space-Track. We won't get conjunction messages and I don't believe it has or will have a name, just the catalog number which isn't even public.
I'm good with that, "rules is rules." I don't ask any questions, lest they decide that even what we have is too much!
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
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