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...mostly my FT-817 or I can go FT-857D if I get the urge...

You can easily work AO-51 and SO-50 with your '817!

Page 45 of the 817ND manual shows you how to program "split frequencies."

Here's a quick tutorial on working AO-51 and SO-50 for you:

http://homepage.mac.com/clintbradford/Menu3.html

Clint Bradford, K6LCS AMSAT Area Coordinator