Are these chit-chatters taking up time? Or possibly someone who does not hear the downlink?
Or a combination of the two?
Clint K6LCS
No. These people hear the downlink. This was a pileup situation for a rare grid. Everyone was just too impatient to let the QSO complete before calling. I was clearly called by the DX, and when I attempted to give my report, I was crushed by another station calling. Most of it did get through, in pieces.
Could have used some more juice to make 100% sure that QSO was complete!
There are a few of us who will just have to wait and see if we did get in the log.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Clint Bradford clintbradford@mac.com wrote:
Are these chit-chatters taking up time? Or possibly someone who does not hear the downlink?
Or a combination of the two?
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Listened to any HF pileups recently? The same thing constantly happens there, why would the satellites be any different?
73 John AF5CC
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
No. These people hear the downlink. This was a pileup situation for a rare grid. Everyone was just too impatient to let the QSO complete before calling. I was clearly called by the DX, and when I attempted to give my report, I was crushed by another station calling. Most of it did get through, in pieces.
Could have used some more juice to make 100% sure that QSO was complete!
There are a few of us who will just have to wait and see if we did get in the log.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Clint Bradford clintbradford@mac.com wrote:
Are these chit-chatters taking up time? Or possibly someone who does not
hear the downlink?
Or a combination of the two?
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The FM birds are *far* worse than any HF pile-up I've ever heard, and I've been a Ham since 1964......
On 05/01/2015 02:58 AM, John Geiger wrote:
Listened to any HF pileups recently? The same thing constantly happens there, why would the satellites be any different?
73 John AF5CC
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
No. These people hear the downlink. This was a pileup situation for a rare grid. Everyone was just too impatient to let the QSO complete before calling. I was clearly called by the DX, and when I attempted to give my report, I was crushed by another station calling. Most of it did get through, in pieces.
Could have used some more juice to make 100% sure that QSO was complete!
There are a few of us who will just have to wait and see if we did get in the log.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Clint Bradford clintbradford@mac.com wrote:
Are these chit-chatters taking up time? Or possibly someone who does not
hear the downlink?
Or a combination of the two?
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I like it that way . Its like contesting . Takes practice and skill to be able to retain call signs and be able to run with the pile up . That actually lost of fun . Its almost like been on the other side of DXpedition .
Yanko, NX9G
On 2015-04-30 22:27, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
The FM birds are *far* worse than any HF pile-up I've ever heard, and I've been a Ham since 1964......
On 05/01/2015 02:58 AM, John Geiger wrote: Listened to any HF pileups recently? The same thing constantly happens there, why would the satellites be any different? 73 John AF5CC On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote: No. These people hear the downlink. This was a pileup situation for a rare grid. Everyone was just too impatient to let the QSO complete before calling. I was clearly called by the DX, and when I attempted to give my report, I was crushed by another station calling. Most of it did get through, in pieces. Could have used some more juice to make 100% sure that QSO was complete! There are a few of us who will just have to wait and see if we did get in the log. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Clint Bradford clintbradford@mac.com wrote: Are these chit-chatters taking up time? Or possibly someone who does not hear the downlink? Or a combination of the two? Clint K6LCS _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open
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I have kind of given up on the evening SO-50 passes while Yuri is sailing the ocean blue. Nothing at all against Yuri or those working him for the rare grid square. That's what all this stuff is for. Just that I'm not going to QSO with anybody during those passes given my mini-station and (mostly) my inexperience. I'll be on during the day on weekends and listening at other times for a break in the action.
Steve AI9IN
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:38 PM, samy_b1@shell4you.net wrote:
I like it that way . Its like contesting . Takes practice and skill to be able to retain call signs and be able to run with the pile up . That actually lost of fun . Its almost like been on the other side of DXpedition .
Yanko, NX9G
On 2015-04-30 22:27, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
The FM birds are *far* worse than any HF pile-up I've ever heard, and I've been a Ham since 1964......
On 05/01/2015 02:58 AM, John Geiger wrote: Listened to any HF pileups recently? The same thing constantly happens
there, why would the satellites be any different? 73 John AF5CC On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote: No. These people hear the downlink. This was a pileup situation for a rare grid. Everyone was just too impatient to let the QSO complete before calling. I was clearly called by the DX, and when I attempted to give my report, I was crushed by another station calling. Most of it did get through, in pieces. Could have used some more juice to make 100% sure that QSO was complete! There are a few of us who will just have to wait and see if we did get in the log. 73, Paul, N8HM On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Clint Bradford < clintbradford@mac.com> wrote: Are these chit-chatters taking up time? Or possibly someone who does not hear the downlink? Or a combination of the two? Clint K6LCS _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes th is open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb [1] _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb [1] _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb [1]
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Maybe we should have considered making Fox-1 dual frequency, so the DX could work split and you would hear the full exchange from his end? :-)
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
On 4/30/2015 21:58, John Geiger wrote:
Listened to any HF pileups recently? The same thing constantly happens there, why would the satellites be any different?
73 John AF5CC
Next one! Though that wasn't the issue here. No one was stepping on him, just those trying to respond.
I really didn't mean to start the FM satellite debate here as there are obviously pros and cons and it's good to have both FM and linear transponders available for voice communications. I believe that 80% of the problems on SO-50 are caused by people who cannot hear (and Fox should do a great job reducing that problem). This pass tonight brought out some of that other 20% and I just felt like venting :)
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Jerry Buxton amsat@n0jy.org wrote:
Maybe we should have considered making Fox-1 dual frequency, so the DX could work split and you would hear the full exchange from his end? :-)
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
On 4/30/2015 21:58, John Geiger wrote:
Listened to any HF pileups recently? The same thing constantly happens there, why would the satellites be any different?
73 John AF5CC
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Clint Bradford
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Jim Jerzycke
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John Geiger
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Paul Stoetzer
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Steve Kristoff