-----Original Message-----
From: "Reicher, James" JReicher@hrblock.com Sent: Jun 25, 2007 9:37 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts!
I managed my one contact per FM bird also and then concentrated on AO-7 and VO-52. I didn't manage as many as George, but we did pretty well.
I found the FM birds to be much more orderly than in years past. I thought that the one station who was handing out quick contacts to the others worked very well.
[snip]
I'm not sure that I see the upside to someone "handing out quick contacts" that will ultimately be tossed because he broke the rules.... invalid Q's are invalid for BOTH parties, are they not? If that was someone's one and only satellite contact, there goes their 100-point bonus!
George, KA3HSW
The rules say nothing about more than one contact voiding the others, or about making a contact with someone who has already made more than one. All you get is the 100 points; more contacts on an FM bird get you nothing but the wrath of everyone who hears you. Jim KQ6EA
--- George Henry ka3hsw@earthlink.net wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: "Reicher, James" JReicher@hrblock.com Sent: Jun 25, 2007 9:37 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts!
I managed my one contact per FM bird also and then
concentrated on AO-7
and VO-52. I didn't manage as many as George, but
we did pretty well.
I found the FM birds to be much more orderly than
in years past. I
thought that the one station who was handing out
quick contacts to the
others worked very well.
[snip]
I'm not sure that I see the upside to someone "handing out quick contacts" that will ultimately be tossed because he broke the rules.... invalid Q's are invalid for BOTH parties, are they not? If that was someone's one and only satellite contact, there goes their 100-point bonus!
George, KA3HSW
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Actually, it's implicit in rule 7.2 of the "ARRL General Rules for All Contests": "7.2. Score reduction may be made for taking credit for unconfirmed QSOs or multipliers, duplicate contacts or other scoring discrepancies."
(operative phrase being "scoring discrepancies")
At the very least, the station handing out contacts violated the intent of the "one contact" rule. Moreover, for every one contact he "handed out", TWO other stations could have made their contacts and gotten off the bird. He actually DECREASED the QSO rate....
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Jerzycke" kq6ea@pacbell.net To: "George Henry" ka3hsw@earthlink.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts!
The rules say nothing about more than one contact voiding the others, or about making a contact with someone who has already made more than one. All you get is the 100 points; more contacts on an FM bird get you nothing but the wrath of everyone who hears you. Jim KQ6EA
--- George Henry ka3hsw@earthlink.net wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: "Reicher, James" JReicher@hrblock.com Sent: Jun 25, 2007 9:37 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts!
I managed my one contact per FM bird also and then
concentrated on AO-7
and VO-52. I didn't manage as many as George, but
we did pretty well.
I found the FM birds to be much more orderly than
in years past. I
thought that the one station who was handing out
quick contacts to the
others worked very well.
[snip]
I'm not sure that I see the upside to someone "handing out quick contacts" that will ultimately be tossed because he broke the rules.... invalid Q's are invalid for BOTH parties, are they not? If that was someone's one and only satellite contact, there goes their 100-point bonus!
George, KA3HSW
Well, that may be, but I read the Field Day rules, and as we all know, Field Day is NOT a "contest". If other rules override the Field Day rules, it should be widely published, or mentioned in the Field Day rules, which it aint. I agree that making more than one contact violates the *spirit* of the rules, but NOT the written Field Day rules.
--- George Henry ka3hsw@earthlink.net wrote:
Actually, it's implicit in rule 7.2 of the "ARRL General Rules for All Contests": "7.2. Score reduction may be made for taking credit for unconfirmed QSOs or multipliers, duplicate contacts or other scoring discrepancies."
(operative phrase being "scoring discrepancies")
At the very least, the station handing out contacts violated the intent of the "one contact" rule. Moreover, for every one contact he "handed out", TWO other stations could have made their contacts and gotten off the bird. He actually DECREASED the QSO rate....
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Jerzycke" kq6ea@pacbell.net To: "George Henry" ka3hsw@earthlink.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts!
The rules say nothing about more than one contact voiding the others, or about making a contact with someone who has already made more than one. All you get is the 100 points; more contacts on an
FM
bird get you nothing but the wrath of everyone who hears you. Jim KQ6EA
--- George Henry ka3hsw@earthlink.net wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: "Reicher, James" JReicher@hrblock.com Sent: Jun 25, 2007 9:37 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Contacts!
I managed my one contact per FM bird also and
then
concentrated on AO-7
and VO-52. I didn't manage as many as George,
but
we did pretty well.
I found the FM birds to be much more orderly
than
in years past. I
thought that the one station who was handing out
quick contacts to the
others worked very well.
[snip]
I'm not sure that I see the upside to someone "handing out quick contacts" that will ultimately
be
tossed because he broke the rules.... invalid
Q's
are invalid for BOTH parties, are they not? If
that
was someone's one and only satellite contact,
there
goes their 100-point bonus!
George, KA3HSW
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