Has anyone assembled a reasonably modern (currently available) table of equipment suitable for sat work?
Dual-band, full-duplex - handhelds, mobiles, base equipment.
Thanks.
Jeff, KE9V
The only two full duplex base satellite radios in current production are:
Kenwood TS-2000 (note the birdie in the middle of SO-50's downlink) Icom IC-9100
Lots of people use combinations of radios - such as FT-817s, FT-857s, FT-897s, FT-991s, FT-100s, IC-706MkIIGs, etc with another radio as a receiver, like another FT-817 or a FUNcube Dongle Pro+ and a laptop/tablet.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Jeff Davis stuckbit@gmail.com wrote:
Has anyone assembled a reasonably modern (currently available) table of equipment suitable for sat work?
Dual-band, full-duplex - handhelds, mobiles, base equipment.
Thanks.
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I believe that some of the Flexradios will do full duplex as well.
73 John AF5CC
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
The only two full duplex base satellite radios in current production are:
Kenwood TS-2000 (note the birdie in the middle of SO-50's downlink) Icom IC-9100
Lots of people use combinations of radios - such as FT-817s, FT-857s, FT-897s, FT-991s, FT-100s, IC-706MkIIGs, etc with another radio as a receiver, like another FT-817 or a FUNcube Dongle Pro+ and a laptop/tablet.
73,
Paul, N8HM
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Has anyone assembled a reasonably modern (currently available) table of equipment suitable for sat work?
Dual-band, full-duplex - handhelds, mobiles, base equipment.
Thanks.
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Go to rigpix.com and look for SSB capable radios...find more detail on originally available options a www.universal-radio.com even for the old stuff...it's out there.
Here's some ideas. Some are old, but if you know what to watch for, you can score a good deal.
Out of production but can be found to work Sats with.
Look in SatPC32 for models in the Radio Setup to see what's supported...if doing PC control...
Icom IC-910H Yaesu FT-847 Icom IC-820/821 Yaesu FT-736R (watch for the correct band modules) (maybe can be PC controlled via CAT) Icom-970H. You can put a 1.2 and 2.4ghz module in this one. Very rare. Yaesu FT-726R (watch for the correct band modules and the satellite module) There is even a 10/15m module for mode A or mode K etc...very rare... Kenwood TS-790
Mono Band Rigs: Kenwood TM-255 2 meter Kenwood TM-455 70cm Yaesu FT-290R2 2 meter There is a bolt on 25w amp for the back of this one Yaesu FT-790R2 70cm. There is a bolt on amp 25w for the back of this one Kenwood TR-751 2m 25 watt all mode Kenwood TR-851 70cm 25watt all mode Icom IC-211 2m all mode 10 watts.... I had one very inexpensive (old but works) Icom IC-451E 70cm all mode 10 watts Icom IC 251/271/275 2m base all mode Icom IC 451/471/475 70cm base all mode ...there's a tuning module to connect some of these 2m/70cm rigs together.
Thanks, Mike W4UOO
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Has anyone assembled a reasonably modern (currently available) table of equipment suitable for sat work?
Dual-band, full-duplex - handhelds, mobiles, base equipment.
Thanks.
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Also, don't forget the old Kenwood TS711/811 2 mtr/70 cm 25 watts respectively. With the IC-10 and IF-232 (which can be homebrewed) work well under computer control. They also worked well under the old TAPR TRAKBOX.
Reid, W4UPD
On 3/20/2015 3:54 PM, Mike Sprenger wrote:
Go to rigpix.com and look for SSB capable radios...find more detail on originally available options a www.universal-radio.com even for the old stuff...it's out there.
Here's some ideas. Some are old, but if you know what to watch for, you can score a good deal.
Out of production but can be found to work Sats with.
Look in SatPC32 for models in the Radio Setup to see what's supported...if doing PC control...
Icom IC-910H Yaesu FT-847 Icom IC-820/821 Yaesu FT-736R (watch for the correct band modules) (maybe can be PC controlled via CAT) Icom-970H. You can put a 1.2 and 2.4ghz module in this one. Very rare. Yaesu FT-726R (watch for the correct band modules and the satellite module) There is even a 10/15m module for mode A or mode K etc...very rare... Kenwood TS-790
Mono Band Rigs: Kenwood TM-255 2 meter Kenwood TM-455 70cm Yaesu FT-290R2 2 meter There is a bolt on 25w amp for the back of this one Yaesu FT-790R2 70cm. There is a bolt on amp 25w for the back of this one Kenwood TR-751 2m 25 watt all mode Kenwood TR-851 70cm 25watt all mode Icom IC-211 2m all mode 10 watts.... I had one very inexpensive (old but works) Icom IC-451E 70cm all mode 10 watts Icom IC 251/271/275 2m base all mode Icom IC 451/471/475 70cm base all mode ...there's a tuning module to connect some of these 2m/70cm rigs together.
Thanks, Mike W4UOO
On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Jeff Davis stuckbit@gmail.com wrote:
Has anyone assembled a reasonably modern (currently available) table of equipment suitable for sat work?
Dual-band, full-duplex - handhelds, mobiles, base equipment.
Thanks.
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I had forgotten those. They both had built in power supplies also. Too bad Kenwood didn't make a TS611 for 6m use. They did make a TR9300 which was a 6m version of the TR9130/9500, but never marketed it in the US. THose are very rare to find but do show up from time to time.
73 John AF5CC
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:02 PM, w4upd updwrb@bristor-assoc.com wrote:
Also, don't forget the old Kenwood TS711/811 2 mtr/70 cm 25 watts respectively. With the IC-10 and IF-232 (which can be homebrewed) work well under computer control. They also worked well under the old TAPR TRAKBOX.
Reid, W4UPD
On 3/20/2015 3:54 PM, Mike Sprenger wrote:
Go to rigpix.com and look for SSB capable radios...find more detail on originally available options a www.universal-radio.com even for the old stuff...it's out there.
Here's some ideas. Some are old, but if you know what to watch for, you can score a good deal.
Out of production but can be found to work Sats with.
Look in SatPC32 for models in the Radio Setup to see what's supported...if doing PC control...
Icom IC-910H Yaesu FT-847 Icom IC-820/821 Yaesu FT-736R (watch for the correct band modules) (maybe can be PC controlled via CAT) Icom-970H. You can put a 1.2 and 2.4ghz module in this one. Very rare. Yaesu FT-726R (watch for the correct band modules and the satellite module) There is even a 10/15m module for mode A or mode K etc...very rare... Kenwood TS-790
Mono Band Rigs: Kenwood TM-255 2 meter Kenwood TM-455 70cm Yaesu FT-290R2 2 meter There is a bolt on 25w amp for the back of this one Yaesu FT-790R2 70cm. There is a bolt on amp 25w for the back of this one Kenwood TR-751 2m 25 watt all mode Kenwood TR-851 70cm 25watt all mode Icom IC-211 2m all mode 10 watts.... I had one very inexpensive (old but works) Icom IC-451E 70cm all mode 10 watts Icom IC 251/271/275 2m base all mode Icom IC 451/471/475 70cm base all mode ...there's a tuning module to connect some of these 2m/70cm rigs together.
Thanks, Mike W4UOO
On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Jeff Davis stuckbit@gmail.com wrote:
Has anyone assembled a reasonably modern (currently available) table of equipment suitable for sat work?
Dual-band, full-duplex - handhelds, mobiles, base equipment.
Thanks.
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The FT736R came with 2m and 70cm as standard, so it is good to go for Mode B and Mode J satellites. The FT726 had 2m as standard, it had 2 different UHF modules, one for 430-440MHZ (for the satellite and weak signal part) and a 440-450MHZ for the US FM portion of the band. Also, it wouldn't do full duplex without a satellite board installed, which was an option.
Kenwood had the TS780 which was a dualband 2m/70cm SSB/CW/FM rig. I don't know if it supported full duplex or not, I kind of think it didn't.
For monoband SSB/CW rigs there are also:
2m: Icom 245 with SSB adaptor, Icom 260, Icom 202S, Kenwood TR9000, Kenwood TR9130, Kenwood TS700, Yaesu FT480, Yaesu FT221, Yaesu FT225, Yaesu FT290RI, and Santec LS202A-an all mode HT with thumbwheel frequency selection
70cm: Icom 402, Kenwood TR9500, Yaesu FT780, FT790R1
Yaesu had the FT767 which was an HF rig which you could add a 2m and/or UHF module to.
73 John AF5CC
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Mike Sprenger mikesprenger@gmail.com wrote:
Go to rigpix.com and look for SSB capable radios...find more detail on originally available options a www.universal-radio.com even for the old stuff...it's out there.
Here's some ideas. Some are old, but if you know what to watch for, you can score a good deal.
Out of production but can be found to work Sats with.
Look in SatPC32 for models in the Radio Setup to see what's supported...if doing PC control...
Icom IC-910H Yaesu FT-847 Icom IC-820/821 Yaesu FT-736R (watch for the correct band modules) (maybe can be PC controlled via CAT) Icom-970H. You can put a 1.2 and 2.4ghz module in this one. Very rare. Yaesu FT-726R (watch for the correct band modules and the satellite module) There is even a 10/15m module for mode A or mode K etc...very rare... Kenwood TS-790
Mono Band Rigs: Kenwood TM-255 2 meter Kenwood TM-455 70cm Yaesu FT-290R2 2 meter There is a bolt on 25w amp for the back of this one Yaesu FT-790R2 70cm. There is a bolt on amp 25w for the back of this one Kenwood TR-751 2m 25 watt all mode Kenwood TR-851 70cm 25watt all mode Icom IC-211 2m all mode 10 watts.... I had one very inexpensive (old but works) Icom IC-451E 70cm all mode 10 watts Icom IC 251/271/275 2m base all mode Icom IC 451/471/475 70cm base all mode ...there's a tuning module to connect some of these 2m/70cm rigs together.
Thanks, Mike W4UOO
On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Jeff Davis stuckbit@gmail.com wrote:
Has anyone assembled a reasonably modern (currently available) table of equipment suitable for sat work?
Dual-band, full-duplex - handhelds, mobiles, base equipment.
Thanks.
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Just curious here, but since the FT-726 does NOT have any kind of PC interface, how can SatPC32 control it?
Does it use one of the "mic click" circuits and the UP/DOWN buttons on the microphone?
73, Jim KQ6EA
It can't and is not listed as a supported radio. In addition, most of the radios mentioned before might do full duplex but not necessary full PC and SatPc32 control. There is a reason why Erich has put a special file in SatPC32 that "hints" to radio support and issues. Worthwhile reviewing that before you make any decisions.
My 2 cents,
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Jim Jerzycke kq6ea@verizon.net wrote:
Just curious here, but since the FT-726 does NOT have any kind of PC interface, how can SatPC32 control it?
Does it use one of the "mic click" circuits and the UP/DOWN buttons on the microphone?
73, Jim KQ6EA
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Yes, I know it can't. I have one that was given to me and I'm trying to decide what to do with it.
My question was caused by what I thought was a comment about it being included in the SatPC32 rig list.
Since I run an FT-847, and I've never really looked at the supported rigs, I was just curious if there was a work-around usinf the UP/DOWN microphone buttons like I've seen for other rigs.
I'll crawl back into the wood work now......
Jim
On 03/21/2015 12:52 AM, Stefan Wagener wrote:
It can't and is not listed as a supported radio. In addition, most of the radios mentioned before might do full duplex but not necessary full PC and SatPc32 control. There is a reason why Erich has put a special file in SatPC32 that "hints" to radio support and issues. Worthwhile reviewing that before you make any decisions.
My 2 cents,
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Jim Jerzycke kq6ea@verizon.net wrote:
Just curious here, but since the FT-726 does NOT have any kind of PC interface, how can SatPC32 control it?
Does it use one of the "mic click" circuits and the UP/DOWN buttons on the microphone?
73, Jim KQ6EA
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Just like some probably like having 2 or more hf rigs, I have second sat rig, which can't be computer tuned...to keep my skills up.
It's an icom ic-211 and a kenwood TM-455. Was a kenwood tr-751 2m and a TS-450 hf rig when the RS10-12-15 Sats were in service
Without computer it Drives much more clumsily, makes the successful contact even sweeter.
BTW
Anyone besides me enjoying this trip down memories of gear used for Sats....I am, thanks for that !
Probably a lot more than the original ask. Maybe I should apologize for that...it's fun to me to imagine the various ways to work the birds.
Thanks, Mike W4UOO
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On Mar 20, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Mike Sprenger mikesprenger@gmail.com wrote:
Go to rigpix.com and look for SSB capable radios...find more detail on originally available options a www.universal-radio.com even for the old stuff...it's out there.
Here's some ideas. Some are old, but if you know what to watch for, you can score a good deal.
Out of production but can be found to work Sats with.
Look in SatPC32 for models in the Radio Setup to see what's supported...if doing PC control...
Icom IC-910H Yaesu FT-847 Icom IC-820/821 Yaesu FT-736R (watch for the correct band modules) (maybe can be PC controlled via CAT) Icom-970H. You can put a 1.2 and 2.4ghz module in this one. Very rare. Yaesu FT-726R (watch for the correct band modules and the satellite module) There is even a 10/15m module for mode A or mode K etc...very rare... Kenwood TS-790
Mono Band Rigs: Kenwood TM-255 2 meter Kenwood TM-455 70cm Yaesu FT-290R2 2 meter There is a bolt on 25w amp for the back of this one Yaesu FT-790R2 70cm. There is a bolt on amp 25w for the back of this one Kenwood TR-751 2m 25 watt all mode Kenwood TR-851 70cm 25watt all mode Icom IC-211 2m all mode 10 watts.... I had one very inexpensive (old but works) Icom IC-451E 70cm all mode 10 watts Icom IC 251/271/275 2m base all mode Icom IC 451/471/475 70cm base all mode ...there's a tuning module to connect some of these 2m/70cm rigs together.
Thanks, Mike W4UOO
On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Jeff Davis stuckbit@gmail.com wrote:
Has anyone assembled a reasonably modern (currently available) table of equipment suitable for sat work?
Dual-band, full-duplex - handhelds, mobiles, base equipment.
Thanks.
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