Evidence of moon landings....!
Which is more reasonable:
1. That a 40 year grand conspiracy involving literally thousands of people from multiple, antagonistic countries, could pull off and maintain the illusion that nobody has walked on the moon. Recognizing that the Soviet Union and China both would have benefitted greatly for exposing such fakery, and recognizing that the US government by itself - let alone all the other people, organizations, and governments that have a stake in it - can't keep even a little secret like "I went to Argentina to get a piece on the side". Recognizing all the photographs, the rocks, the satellites, the orbiters, the explosion of technology and so forth. Recognizing that the governments in question have been unable, in the same time period, to keep their leaders from being shot at by simple lunatics, and that those governments haven't even been able to construct a convincing lie about WMD in the middle-east: something that really, everyone would believe with little effort?
OR
2. That men have actually been on the moon as reported?
The whole idea that the moon landings were faked is, quite simply, weapons-grade stupid. It flies in the face of logic and reason. No moon-conspiracy theorist has ever been able to produce a shred of evidence that anything has been faked... a task that should be INCREDIBLY easy given the number of people that have to be involved to this day. Scientists, on the other hand have produced photos, rocks, and mountains of other evidence, not the least of which is the dozen people who have actually been there, a good many of which are still walking around.
People who still tout this moon-landing-fake conspiracy are nutters, plain and simple. There are many places I'd expect to find woo-woo conspiracy believers, but never on the AMSAT list.
Can we please put this issue to bed and go back to satellites and radio now.
-VE3OIJ
AMEN.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Darin Cowan" [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Evidence of moon landings....!
Which is more reasonable:
- That a 40 year grand conspiracy involving literally thousands of people
from multiple, antagonistic countries, could pull off and maintain the illusion that nobody has walked on the moon. Recognizing that the Soviet Union and China both would have benefitted greatly for exposing such fakery, and recognizing that the US government by itself - let alone all the other people, organizations, and governments that have a stake in it - can't keep even a little secret like "I went to Argentina to get a piece on the side". Recognizing all the photographs, the rocks, the satellites, the orbiters, the explosion of technology and so forth. Recognizing that the governments in question have been unable, in the same time period, to keep their leaders from being shot at by simple lunatics, and that those governments haven't even been able to construct a convincing lie about WMD in the middle-east: something that really, everyone would believe with little effort?
OR
- That men have actually been on the moon as reported?
The whole idea that the moon landings were faked is, quite simply, weapons-grade stupid. It flies in the face of logic and reason. No moon-conspiracy theorist has ever been able to produce a shred of evidence that anything has been faked... a task that should be INCREDIBLY easy given the number of people that have to be involved to this day. Scientists, on the other hand have produced photos, rocks, and mountains of other evidence, not the least of which is the dozen people who have actually been there, a good many of which are still walking around.
People who still tout this moon-landing-fake conspiracy are nutters, plain and simple. There are many places I'd expect to find woo-woo conspiracy believers, but never on the AMSAT list.
Can we please put this issue to bed and go back to satellites and radio now.
-VE3OIJ
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Jim Leder wrote:
AMEN.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Darin Cowan" [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Evidence of moon landings....!
Which is more reasonable:
- That a 40 year grand conspiracy involving literally thousands of people
from multiple, antagonistic countries, could pull off and maintain the illusion that nobody has walked on the moon. Recognizing that the Soviet Union and China both would have benefitted greatly for exposing such fakery, and recognizing that the US government by itself - let alone all the other people, organizations, and governments that have a stake in it - can't keep even a little secret like "I went to Argentina to get a piece on the side". Recognizing all the photographs, the rocks, the satellites, the orbiters, the explosion of technology and so forth. Recognizing that the governments in question have been unable, in the same time period, to keep their leaders from being shot at by simple lunatics, and that those governments haven't even been able to construct a convincing lie about WMD in the middle-east: something that really, everyone would believe with little effort?
OR
- That men have actually been on the moon as reported?
The whole idea that the moon landings were faked is, quite simply, weapons-grade stupid. It flies in the face of logic and reason. No moon-conspiracy theorist has ever been able to produce a shred of evidence that anything has been faked... a task that should be INCREDIBLY easy given the number of people that have to be involved to this day. Scientists, on the other hand have produced photos, rocks, and mountains of other evidence, not the least of which is the dozen people who have actually been there, a good many of which are still walking around.
People who still tout this moon-landing-fake conspiracy are nutters, plain and simple. There are many places I'd expect to find woo-woo conspiracy believers, but never on the AMSAT list.
Can we please put this issue to bed and go back to satellites and radio now.
-VE3OIJ
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I for one wholeheartedly agree. Lets get on with real things, satellites and radios.
Dale - kl7xj
On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 15:42 -0700, Dale Hershberger wrote:
I for one wholeheartedly agree. Lets get on with real things, satellites and radios.
I've got a better idea. Let's start a lunar exploration project. We've had forty years of advances in materials science. We have all that experience to build on.
Best way to prove the lunar naysayers wrong? Develop a spacecraft that can travel to the moon. How hard can it be?
Gordon 2M0YEQ
But we've yet to develop a satellite that can carry people. We have problem getting an affordable launch for something the size and weight of a corn flakes box, I doubt we can launch something the size of a small car.
Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
I've got a better idea. Let's start a lunar exploration project. We've had forty years of advances in materials science. We have all that experience to build on.
Best way to prove the lunar naysayers wrong? Develop a spacecraft that can travel to the moon. How hard can it be?
Interesting how technology advances change our views, too. Who would have said "how hard can it be" to go to the moon 40 years ago?!
On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 15:42 -0700, Dale Hershberger wrote:
I for one wholeheartedly agree. Lets get on with real things, satellites and radios.
I've got a better idea. Let's start a lunar exploration project. We've had forty years of advances in materials science. We have all that experience to build on.
Best way to prove the lunar naysayers wrong? Develop a spacecraft that can travel to the moon. How hard can it be?
Gordon 2M0YEQ
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