FW: [Bod] Re: FCC Experimental Licensing-What is AMSAT's Strategy
The FCC allows teachers to use ham radio in their class and collect a salary. I believe this also applies to professors at university and the ground station students that are licensed.
Nick k5qxj
From: Rsoifer@aol.com [mailto:Rsoifer@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:19 PM To: jan.king@concepts.aero; quadpugh@bellsouth.net; aa2tx@comcast.net; bod@amsat.org; Senior-officers@amsat.org Cc: afeller@ieee.org; jking@concepts.aero; ku4os@cfl.rr.com; r.twiggs@moreheadstate.edu; jfoley@calpoly.edu Subject: Re: [Bod] Re: FCC Experimental Licensing-What is AMSAT's Strategy
Jan and all,
The late Michael Owen, who wrote most of the present RR Article 25 at WRC 03, said that even if the "technical investigation" does not relate to "radio technique," radio transmissions related to it may still be considered "self training" and thus permissible for amateur stations if the other requirements (e.g. "without pecuniary interest") are meti.
73 Ray
In a message dated 4/1/2013 8:33:13 P.M. GMT Standard Time, jan.king@concepts.aero writes:
And, Nick and Tony, The Cubesatters aren't going away any time soon. We can share our spectrum with them or they will take it all, sooner or later. That is the reality. They already think of it as their spectrum, by the way. Jan, W3GEY
-----Original Message----- From: Nick Pugh [mailto:quadpugh@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, 29 March 2013 2:34 AM To: 'Anthony Monteiro'; bod@amsat.org; Senior-officers@amsat.org Cc: 'Arthur Feller'; Rsoifer@aol.com; jking@concepts.aero; ku4os@cfl.rr.com; 'Robert Twiggs'; Justin Foley Subject: RE: [Bod] Re: FCC Experimental Licensing-What is AMSAT's Strategy
Tony well stated and this should become official AMSAT policy.
Reality the cube sats are here and they are good for our hobby
Nick k5qxj
-----Original Message----- From: Anthony Monteiro [mailto:aa2tx@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:26 AM To: bod@amsat.org; Senior-officers@amsat.org Cc: Arthur Feller; Rsoifer@aol.com; jking@concepts.aero; ku4os@cfl.rr.com; nick pugh; Robert Twiggs Subject: Re: [Bod] Re: FCC Experimental Licensing-What is AMSAT's Strategy
Dear Friends,
These are MY opinions, not an official AMSAT position, but I think it is important to recognize the significant benefits that AMSAT and the entire ham radio community gets from having non-commercial, university CubeSats licensed as amateur radio satellites:
1. It introduces hundreds/thousands of students to ham radio who would never have heard of it. Large numbers of students and professors have gotten ham tickets as a result and are now part of the ranks of ham radio operators.
2. It introduces students and professors to AMSAT. We have many people work on AMSAT projects because they learned about us from a university CubeSat program.
3. It enables direct cooperation between AMSAT and universities in developing satellite projects that benefit all hams who are interested in amateur satellite operating activities.
4. Non-commercial, university CubeSats that are licensed as amateur radio satellites help PROTECT our ham bands! The operating activity from these satellites helps show that we (hams) are actually USING these bands for something.
5. Many AMSAT members thoroughly ENJOY collecting telemetry and data from university CubeSats. Just because it doesn't have a 2-way transponder does not mean it isn't ham radio or it isn't a fun part of the hobby.
6. Grad students who have learned about operating a ham station and who control a (non-commercial) satellite are doing so only incidentally to their paid "job" of getting a PhD. They are obviously not getting paid to operate the ham station; they are getting paid for teaching or for their technical work. This is no different than a teacher in the classroom who is getting paid and using ham radio to teach students. These are GOOD uses of ham radio!
7. Many hams and especially AMSAT members thoroughly ENJOY working with students and their teachers, helping them improve their knowledge of radio communications and radio technology.
I certainly hope that AMSAT and AMSAT members can continue to work with universities on amateur-radio CubeSats and promote amateur radio to a new generation of scientists and engineers. These are our future AMSAT members.
73, Tony AA2TX AMSAT, VP Engineering
97.113(a)(3)(iii) A control operator may accept compensation as an incident of a teaching position during periods of time when an amateur station is used by that teacher as a part of classroom instruction at an educational institution.
Interpretation: A teacher or professor may be paid to use an amateur station as part of classroom instruction at a school or university if the use is not a major part of the course.
On 2-Apr-2013, at 06:22 AM, Nick Pugh quadpugh@bellsouth.net wrote:
The FCC allows teachers to use ham radio in their class and collect a salary. I believe this also applies to professors at university and the ground station students that are licensed.
Nick k5qxj
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