Due to a death in the family, I am currently enroute to my parents' place in Memphis.
I have a (not full duplex, unfortunately) HT in my bag, and I just discovered I had left my Elk in the car from Field Day.
The 90th meridian passes through my old childhood bedroom.
I was wondering, in case the opportunity arises, what the protocol is for operating on a gridline, and the subsequent LOTW record keeping.
-- Michael Adams | mda@n1en.org
Michael,
Sorry for your loss.
If you do get on, all you need to say is something like "N1EN EM55/45 grid line." You must be right on the line, a GPS showing that you are indeed at 90.0000 degrees West or a smartphone with a GPS app showing that would be adequate. I suppose a satellite image of the house from a site like ( http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html ) and a picture of you standing right at a position where the line runs through would be adequate too in the unlikely event that the ARRL actually were to request documentation.
LoTW supports up to four grids per QSL. When you create your station location in tQSL, just enter "EM55,EM45" in the field for grid.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Michael Adams mda@n1en.org wrote:
Due to a death in the family, I am currently enroute to my parents' place in Memphis.
I have a (not full duplex, unfortunately) HT in my bag, and I just discovered I had left my Elk in the car from Field Day.
The 90th meridian passes through my old childhood bedroom.
I was wondering, in case the opportunity arises, what the protocol is for operating on a gridline, and the subsequent LOTW record keeping.
-- Michael Adams | mda@n1en.org _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Hi, Michael!
Here's what I have done, based on what I learned from Patrick WD9EWK and John K8YSE among others.
1. If you are going to operate on a grid line, you are supposed to "prove it" according to the VUCC rules.
Special attention is to be paid to section 4 (e) and 4 (f), which explain in detail that:
* You have to be "present" in all grids. * You have to prove it with a GPS set to WGS84 (the default). * The GPS reading has to be mo more than 20 feet of error. * Get two photos: the GPS reading and the placement of the GPS in the operating setup.
Here is a reference to those rules: https://www.arrl.org/files/file/Awards%20Application%20Forms/VUCCRULE1a.pdf
Practically speaking, I park so that the back end of the minivan is right on the line and set up the radios right on the open back end. Take a big picture and a closeup, and we're good.
If you go somewhere particularly rare, it is a good idea to take these pictures even if it's only for 1 grid square.
2. If you can, send a note to AMSAT-BB indicating when you will be operating and which passes. If you are on Twitter, post it there. I have posted even an hour ahead of time and it is always a good idea to get the word out. My notes look like this:
Subject: Impromptu Grid DXpedition: KL7CN/W6 at CN80 on SO-50 at 02:37Z with LotW Confirmation
Hello, all:
Sorry for the short notice -- we'll be active as follows:
QTH: CN80 in Northern California Satellite: SO-50 Date and time: Today 2015-06-21 02:37Z Confirmation: LotW, etc.
-- bag
Bryan KL7CN/W6
My Twitter posts are just the subject line.
3. When I call out I saw something like this:
K-L-7-Charlie-November Slash Double-you Six Delta-Mike-Zero-Five/Zero-Six Gridline
Keeps it short, and advertises that I am in a special place.
I don't bother with signal reports. Everybody gets a 5-9 from the DX.
When someone calls me, suppose it is N4UFO, I say something like this:
November Four Uniform Foxtrot Oscar Confirm
No need to retransmit the grid or my call.
4. If you can, record the pass. You will thank yourself later.
5. Ask W0DHB about LotW logging. He is an expert with LotW and HRD.
The main detail is getting a proper location set up in LotW that includes both grids. It's not hard, but it is unusual so it's a good idea to take a little extra time and get some help to get it right.
Sounds like fun! Go for it!
-- bag
Bryan KL7CN/W6
On Jul 4, 2015, at 06:53, Michael Adams mda@n1en.org wrote:
Due to a death in the family, I am currently enroute to my parents' place in Memphis.
I have a (not full duplex, unfortunately) HT in my bag, and I just discovered I had left my Elk in the car from Field Day.
The 90th meridian passes through my old childhood bedroom.
I was wondering, in case the opportunity arises, what the protocol is for operating on a gridline, and the subsequent LOTW record keeping.
-- Michael Adams | mda@n1en.org _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
Thanks.
Looking at what all I need to do this trip... and the vegetation situation, it might not happen this trip (or if it does, it will be short notice). But it looks like I may be commuting between Connecticut and Memphis for a while, so...
-- Michael Adams | mda@n1en.org
-------- Original message -------- From: Bryan Green bryan@kl7cn.net Date: 2015/07/04 14:09 (GMT-06:00) To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SO50 gridline protocol
Hi, Michael!
Here's what I have done, based on what I learned from Patrick WD9EWK and John K8YSE among others.
1. If you are going to operate on a grid line, you are supposed to "prove it" according to the VUCC rules.
Special attention is to be paid to section 4 (e) and 4 (f), which explain in detail that:
* You have to be "present" in all grids. * You have to prove it with a GPS set to WGS84 (the default). * The GPS reading has to be mo more than 20 feet of error. * Get two photos: the GPS reading and the placement of the GPS in the operating setup.
Here is a reference to those rules: https://www.arrl.org/files/file/Awards%20Application%20Forms/VUCCRULE1a.pdf
Practically speaking, I park so that the back end of the minivan is right on the line and set up the radios right on the open back end. Take a big picture and a closeup, and we're good.
If you go somewhere particularly rare, it is a good idea to take these pictures even if it's only for 1 grid square.
2. If you can, send a note to AMSAT-BB indicating when you will be operating and which passes. If you are on Twitter, post it there. I have posted even an hour ahead of time and it is always a good idea to get the word out. My notes look like this:
Subject: Impromptu Grid DXpedition: KL7CN/W6 at CN80 on SO-50 at 02:37Z with LotW Confirmation
Hello, all:
Sorry for the short notice -- we'll be active as follows:
QTH: CN80 in Northern California Satellite: SO-50 Date and time: Today 2015-06-21 02:37Z Confirmation: LotW, etc.
-- bag
Bryan KL7CN/W6
My Twitter posts are just the subject line.
3. When I call out I saw something like this:
K-L-7-Charlie-November Slash Double-you Six Delta-Mike-Zero-Five/Zero-Six Gridline
Keeps it short, and advertises that I am in a special place.
I don't bother with signal reports. Everybody gets a 5-9 from the DX.
When someone calls me, suppose it is N4UFO, I say something like this:
November Four Uniform Foxtrot Oscar Confirm
No need to retransmit the grid or my call.
4. If you can, record the pass. You will thank yourself later.
5. Ask W0DHB about LotW logging. He is an expert with LotW and HRD.
The main detail is getting a proper location set up in LotW that includes both grids. It's not hard, but it is unusual so it's a good idea to take a little extra time and get some help to get it right.
Sounds like fun! Go for it!
-- bag
Bryan KL7CN/W6
On Jul 4, 2015, at 06:53, Michael Adams mda@n1en.org wrote:
Due to a death in the family, I am currently enroute to my parents' place in Memphis.
I have a (not full duplex, unfortunately) HT in my bag, and I just discovered I had left my Elk in the car from Field Day.
The 90th meridian passes through my old childhood bedroom.
I was wondering, in case the opportunity arises, what the protocol is for operating on a gridline, and the subsequent LOTW record keeping.
-- Michael Adams | mda@n1en.org _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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