Amateur Radio BIRDS CubeSat Constellation
Hi Steve.
It's certainly one of the 3 or 4 types of content that is prohibited in the UK. I can't imagine that the Japanese would allow it either.
Probably OK as a file transfer, but not as analog FM on amateur radio spectrum.
Hopefully if this is declared as one of the mission objectives in the frequency coordination request the applicants would have been advised against it and the application put on hold.
On the other hand.....Imagine the payment due to the performers of the music if the fee assessment is based on 'total audience in the broadcast area' !! Could make the cost of the satellite seem insignificant.
Regards
David G0MRF
Saw this in today's AMSAT newsletter:
" A particularly interesting mission of BIRDS project is the SNG mission that exchanges music via a digi-singer. It is an outreach-oriented mission. First, music in MIDI format is uploaded from ground. Then the MIDI file is processed on-board using a vocal synthesizer. Finally, the processed music is sent back to Earth using UHF antenna as voice FM data. "
Isn't music transmission prohibited in the United States amateur radio service?
Steve AI9IN
David,
Horyu-4 received IARU coordination ( http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=434) and includes a similar digisinger, programmed with the Japanese national anthem.
Here's a clip of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUAde9nMW1A
As for your last point, I would hope that any music they planned to upload would be public domain!
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 11:33 AM, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Hi Steve.
It's certainly one of the 3 or 4 types of content that is prohibited in the UK. I can't imagine that the Japanese would allow it either.
Probably OK as a file transfer, but not as analog FM on amateur radio spectrum.
Hopefully if this is declared as one of the mission objectives in the frequency coordination request the applicants would have been advised against it and the application put on hold.
On the other hand.....Imagine the payment due to the performers of the music if the fee assessment is based on 'total audience in the broadcast area' !! Could make the cost of the satellite seem insignificant.
Regards
David G0MRF
Saw this in today's AMSAT newsletter:
" A particularly interesting mission of BIRDS project is the SNG mission that exchanges music via a digi-singer. It is an outreach-oriented mission. First, music in MIDI format is uploaded from ground. Then the MIDI file is processed on-board using a vocal synthesizer. Finally, the processed music is sent back to Earth using UHF antenna as voice FM data. "
Isn't music transmission prohibited in the United States amateur radio service?
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Just to clarify the comment: "It's certainly one of the 3 or 4 types of content that is prohibited in the UK." The UK amateur radio license has not prohibited Music since 2006.
There is very little in terms of Content that is prohibited by the UK license. The only specific Content prohibition that I recall is: - a message, communication or other matter in whatever form that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character. [Notes (h)]
A copy of the current UK license terms and conditions can be seen at https://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/spectrum/amateur-radio/guidance-for-...
73 Trevor M5AKA
On Sunday, 21 August 2016, 16:38, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
David,
Horyu-4 received IARU coordination ( http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=434) and includes a similar digisinger, programmed with the Japanese national anthem.
Here's a clip of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUAde9nMW1A
As for your last point, I would hope that any music they planned to upload would be public domain!
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 11:33 AM, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB < amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
Hi Steve.
It's certainly one of the 3 or 4 types of content that is prohibited in the UK. I can't imagine that the Japanese would allow it either.
Probably OK as a file transfer, but not as analog FM on amateur radio spectrum.
Hopefully if this is declared as one of the mission objectives in the frequency coordination request the applicants would have been advised against it and the application put on hold.
On the other hand.....Imagine the payment due to the performers of the music if the fee assessment is based on 'total audience in the broadcast area' !! Could make the cost of the satellite seem insignificant.
Regards
David G0MRF
Saw this in today's AMSAT newsletter:
" A particularly interesting mission of BIRDS project is the SNG mission that exchanges music via a digi-singer. It is an outreach-oriented mission. First, music in MIDI format is uploaded from ground. Then the MIDI file is processed on-board using a vocal synthesizer. Finally, the processed music is sent back to Earth using UHF antenna as voice FM data. "
Isn't music transmission prohibited in the United States amateur radio service?
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On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 1:23 PM, M5AKA via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
Just to clarify the comment: "It's certainly one of the 3 or 4 types of content that is prohibited in the UK." The UK amateur radio license has not prohibited Music since 2006.
The US regs at 47CFR97.113, especially the prohibitions on music, broadcasting, and passing messages for hire date back to the earliest regs when the commercial radio co's didn't want the competition. I don't know when those were added but it was not at the very beginning, since many stations with amateur license were known to broadcast music and other programming once radiotelephone became practical. Plenty of US "radio station lists" from pre-1925 are online now, but I've not seen copies of the contemporary amateur radio rules. Would be interesting to see when that stuff started.
I'm really not interested in hearing music on amateur radio, nor broadcasting, beyond the exceptions the FCC has had to make in the US rules. I can ignore music on the broadcast bands and satellite radio and don't want to have to ignore it on the amateur bands, too!
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