Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space
Hi Domenico , you are absolutely right! the main problem is that young people involved in projects not even know what is an "hamradio" and what is an "ham spirit" (in Italy this is the situation), so whithout these conditions you can't produce something right for our community
think only this: the only satellites "ham-useful" have been produced outside university programs
I write this because I personally experienced what it means
Only AMSAT have the right spirit ( and experience..) to produce useful object
when a university has to create a satellite? turns to us...
For Italian University satellities is so
73 de Giulio AB2VY
Hi David, G0MRF
It seem to me that while the Universities are becaming tennis players we collect telemetry without to be involved in their experiments and this is like to only pick up their balls and run with it.
The only difference is that each University receive governement contributions to build the satellite while we radioamateurs invest a lot of personal money to build our own satellite stations.
Since the Radioamateur Community make a worldwide service to the Universities my idea is to collect their TLM upon official donations to be used to build our Orbiting Satellites Carrying Amateur Radio i.e. satellites with linear transponders to talk each other.
Is the Amateur Satellite Service becaming an endangered species ?
It will became an endangered species if P3-E and EAGLE will be not placed in orbit as soon as possible but this requires our contributions ............or not ?
Do you like my TLM ?............Please donate !
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message ----- From: G0MRF@aol.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space
Cubesats built by students from universities in Poland Spain Italy Switzerland Romania France and Belgium have been selected for a free ride
to low earth
orbit. The launch is scheduled on the Vega maiden flight from Kourou at
the
end 2008 / early 2009 TBC.
_http://www.esa.int/esaED/SEM2BPUG3HF_index_0.html_ (http://www.esa.int/esaED/SEM2BPUG3HF_index_0.html)
Thanks
David
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Giulio AB2VY" amprorg@yahoo.it To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:11 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space
Hi Domenico , you are absolutely right! the main problem is that young people involved in projects not even know what is an "hamradio" and what is an ham spirit" (in Italy this is the situation), so whithout these conditions you can't produce something right for our community
think only this: the only satellites "ham-useful" have been produced outside university programs
I write this because I personally experienced what it means
Only AMSAT have the right spirit ( and experience..) to produce useful object
when a university has to create a satellite? turns to us...
For Italian University satellities is so
73 de Giulio AB2VY
Hi Giulio, AB2VY
I agree 100% with what you write with one BIG exception:
The University of Marburg in Germany is the only University working into a university program with AMSAT-DL and with financial + technical contribution of AMSAT-NA and AMSAT-UK that was able to designe produce and make a reality OSCAR-10 OSCAR-13 and AO40
The same University of Marburg is actually working in a university program to produce P3-E and P5-A for the benefit of both science and Amateur Radio.
But actually once the other worldwide Universities will have the ESA/NASA/JAXA-sponsored GENSO project running, they will probably even not need our help anymore, but only our frequencies !!!
Best 73" de
i8CVS Domenico
i8cvs wrote:
But actually once the other worldwide Universities will have the ESA/NASA/JAXA-sponsored GENSO project running, they will probably even not need our help anymore, but only our frequencies !!!
I'm doubting it, but perhaps I'm missing something:
1. University builds satellite 2. University satellite builders are either hams themselves or are endorsed by someone who has a ham radio license. 3. University sets up satellite to transmit within the amateur sub bands 4. University publishes downlink frequencies and allows other amateurs to collect TLM 5. People complain
Am I missing something between 4 and 5? Are these satellites purposely jamming other satellites? Are they going to seek out any future HEO satellites and kamikaze the rocket when it flies by? Or are the people complaining for the sake of complaining?
Last I checked Amateur Radio encouraged experimentation. Cubesats are a shining example of this. I can't comprehend how anyone can complain and consider themselves an "amateur"
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Ben Jackson wrote:
| 1. University builds satellite | 2. University satellite builders are either hams themselves or are | endorsed by someone who has a ham radio license. | 3. University sets up satellite to transmit within the amateur sub bands
It came to my attention that despite me thinking it, I never wrote one of my steps down, so please add "2a. University coordinates satellite frequencies with IARU" :)
Complaining about uncoordinated satellites is a valid discussion topic, ~ but people should focus more on fixing the problem rather then bellyaching about it. :)
- -- Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
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