Joe,
Before you do anything, exactly which file is SatPC32 using? And what date is the file? If you are using amateur.txt, and the date is current, then you should be getting good agreement, though a few satellites such as AO-85 will be missing.
73s,
Alan WA4SCA
<-----Original Message----- <From: Joe [mailto:nss@mwt.net] <Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 12:04 PM <To: APBIDDLE@mailaps.org <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Software Problems < <Hi Alan, <Yes the Look down uses the nasabare. but the orbitron and satpc are getting all their stuff from <celestrack how does one tell it to go to nasabare? < <Joe < < <The Original Rolling Ball Clock <Idle Tyme <Idle-Tyme.com <http://www.idle-tyme.com < <On 10/23/2016 11:40 AM, Alan wrote: < < < Joe, < < SatPC32 normally works perfectly, and is used by the command stations for its accuracy and < reliability. < < Something to check. Click on Satellites, and see what the source file is. nasabare.txt is a reliable < one. Look down at the bottom, and see what the file date is. It should be current within a day or < so. You will need to do the update manually with the Update Keps button, for each source. < < 73s, < < Alan < WA4SCA < < < < < < < <-----Original Message----- < <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Joe < <Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 9:56 AM < <To: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org mailto:amsat-bb@amsat.org < <Subject: [amsat-bb] Software Problems < < < <I am really excited about getting back on the Birds after a 40+ year < <absence. < <I've done EME, MS, AU, and all sorts of weak signal stuff on 144Mhz. < <I've played the DX and contesting on HF. < <All has been fun, but none except for the EME has given the most < <happiness than the memories of playing with the birds in the late 70's < < < <Now let me know, I can take this off list if members here want me to, < <But This excitement is quickly turning into disgust. To the point I'm < <just about to say screw it and forget about Sat work again. < < < <I am in the need of help with prediction programs. < < < <Man in the late 70's it was the ARRL bulletin with keps etc. and a Oscar < <Locator. < < < <Now we got ultra cool software programs that all are incredible! Except < <for me, I can not trust ANY of them. I have been testing several to see < <what I will make my primary program. BUT...... and there always is a < <"BUT" isn't there? I can not say what one to "Trust" < <The four I have installed are... < <SatLookDown1_28 < <HRDSatTrack < <Orbitron < <SatPC32 < < < <Now of course they all use the same computer clock. And it is accurate < <to less than a tenth of a second. < < < <Each one periodically ask to Up-Date the TLE's and I say "YES" and let < <them do it all on their own. I change NOTHING on where they get their data. < < < <The run them. < < < <The, < <SatLookDown1_28 & HRDSatTrack, both agree very closely. Almost to the < <second. < < < <But the Orbitron, is off, WAY off. like 15 minutes off. < < < <And the SatPC32 is even worse the sat is like 1/2 an orbit off! < < < <Now the ones that agree also match the page < < < <http://www.amsat.org.ar/pass.htm# < < < <So my guess they are the ones showing correct data. < < < <Now what to do about the other two. How can I make them show correct passes? < < < <Remember I can take this off list if no one wants to read about this... < <Just let me know, < < < <Joe WB9SBD < <-- < <Sig < <The Original Rolling Ball Clock < <Idle Tyme < <Idle-Tyme.com < <http://www.idle-tyme.com < <_______________________________________________ < <Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB@amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this <open forum available < <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed < <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. < <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! < <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb < < < _______________________________________________ < Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB@amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this <open forum available < to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed < are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. < Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! < Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb < < < <
Yes amateur.txt date 10/23/2016 8:29
Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 10/23/2016 12:50 PM, Alan wrote:
Joe,
Before you do anything, exactly which file is SatPC32 using? And what date is the file? If you are using amateur.txt, and the date is current, then you should be getting good agreement, though a few satellites such as AO-85 will be missing.
73s,
Alan WA4SCA
<-----Original Message----- <From: Joe [mailto:nss@mwt.net] <Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 12:04 PM <To: APBIDDLE@mailaps.org <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Software Problems < <Hi Alan, <Yes the Look down uses the nasabare. but the orbitron and satpc are getting all their stuff from <celestrack how does one tell it to go to nasabare? < <Joe < < <The Original Rolling Ball Clock <Idle Tyme <Idle-Tyme.com <http://www.idle-tyme.com < <On 10/23/2016 11:40 AM, Alan wrote: < < < Joe, < < SatPC32 normally works perfectly, and is used by the command stations for its accuracy and < reliability. < < Something to check. Click on Satellites, and see what the source file is. nasabare.txt is a reliable < one. Look down at the bottom, and see what the file date is. It should be current within a day or < so. You will need to do the update manually with the Update Keps button, for each source. < < 73s, < < Alan < WA4SCA < < < < < < < <-----Original Message----- < <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Joe < <Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 9:56 AM < <To: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org mailto:amsat-bb@amsat.org < <Subject: [amsat-bb] Software Problems < < < <I am really excited about getting back on the Birds after a 40+ year < <absence. < <I've done EME, MS, AU, and all sorts of weak signal stuff on 144Mhz. < <I've played the DX and contesting on HF. < <All has been fun, but none except for the EME has given the most < <happiness than the memories of playing with the birds in the late 70's < < < <Now let me know, I can take this off list if members here want me to, < <But This excitement is quickly turning into disgust. To the point I'm < <just about to say screw it and forget about Sat work again. < < < <I am in the need of help with prediction programs. < < < <Man in the late 70's it was the ARRL bulletin with keps etc. and a Oscar < <Locator. < < < <Now we got ultra cool software programs that all are incredible! Except < <for me, I can not trust ANY of them. I have been testing several to see < <what I will make my primary program. BUT...... and there always is a < <"BUT" isn't there? I can not say what one to "Trust" < <The four I have installed are... < <SatLookDown1_28 < <HRDSatTrack < <Orbitron < <SatPC32 < < < <Now of course they all use the same computer clock. And it is accurate < <to less than a tenth of a second. < < < <Each one periodically ask to Up-Date the TLE's and I say "YES" and let < <them do it all on their own. I change NOTHING on where they get their data. < < < <The run them. < < < <The, < <SatLookDown1_28 & HRDSatTrack, both agree very closely. Almost to the < <second. < < < <But the Orbitron, is off, WAY off. like 15 minutes off. < < < <And the SatPC32 is even worse the sat is like 1/2 an orbit off! < < < <Now the ones that agree also match the page < < < <http://www.amsat.org.ar/pass.htm# < < < <So my guess they are the ones showing correct data. < < < <Now what to do about the other two. How can I make them show correct passes? < < < <Remember I can take this off list if no one wants to read about this... < <Just let me know, < < < <Joe WB9SBD < <-- < <Sig < <The Original Rolling Ball Clock < <Idle Tyme < <Idle-Tyme.com < <http://www.idle-tyme.com < <_______________________________________________ < <Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB@amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this <open forum available < <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed < <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. < <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! < <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb < < < _______________________________________________ < Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB@amsat.org . AMSAT-NA makes this <open forum available < to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed < are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. < Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! < Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb < < < <
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Joe,
Those are good Keps, so there is no need at this point to change them until you solve your other issues.
Which satellites have you compared? Stay away from the ISS for now, since its orbit is periodically boosted, and some of the Keps take some time to catch up with it.
73s,
Alan WA4SCA
<-----Original Message----- <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Joe <Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 12:57 PM <To: amsat-bb@amsat.org <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Software Problems < <Yes amateur.txt <date 10/23/2016 8:29 < <Joe WB9SBD <Sig <The Original Rolling Ball Clock <Idle Tyme <Idle-Tyme.com <http://www.idle-tyme.com <On 10/23/2016 12:50 PM, Alan wrote: <> Joe, <> <> Before you do anything, exactly which file is SatPC32 using? And what date is the file? If you are <> using amateur.txt, and the date is current, then you should be getting good agreement, though a few <> satellites such as AO-85 will be missing. <> <> 73s, <> <> Alan <> WA4SCA <> <> <> <-----Original Message----- <> <From: Joe [mailto:nss@mwt.net] <> <Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 12:04 PM <> <To: APBIDDLE@mailaps.org <> <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Software Problems <> < <> <Hi Alan, <> <Yes the Look down uses the nasabare. but the orbitron and satpc are getting all their stuff from <> <celestrack how does one tell it to go to nasabare? <> < <> <Joe <> < <> < <> <The Original Rolling Ball Clock <> <Idle Tyme <> <Idle-Tyme.com <> <http://www.idle-tyme.com <> < <> <On 10/23/2016 11:40 AM, Alan wrote: <> < <> < <> < Joe, <> < <> < SatPC32 normally works perfectly, and is used by the command stations for its accuracy and <> < reliability. <> < <> < Something to check. Click on Satellites, and see what the source file is. nasabare.txt is a <> reliable <> < one. Look down at the bottom, and see what the file date is. It should be current within a <> day or <> < so. You will need to do the update manually with the Update Keps button, for each source. <> < <> < 73s, <> < <> < Alan <> < WA4SCA <> < <> < <> < <> < <> < <> < <> < <-----Original Message----- <> < <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Joe <> < <Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 9:56 AM <> < <To: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org mailto:amsat-bb@amsat.org <> < <Subject: [amsat-bb] Software Problems <> < < <> < <I am really excited about getting back on the Birds after a 40+ year <> < <absence. <> < <I've done EME, MS, AU, and all sorts of weak signal stuff on 144Mhz. <> < <I've played the DX and contesting on HF. <> < <All has been fun, but none except for the EME has given the most <> < <happiness than the memories of playing with the birds in the late 70's <> < < <> < <Now let me know, I can take this off list if members here want me to, <> < <But This excitement is quickly turning into disgust. To the point I'm <> < <just about to say screw it and forget about Sat work again. <> < < <> < <I am in the need of help with prediction programs. <> < < <> < <Man in the late 70's it was the ARRL bulletin with keps etc. and a Oscar <> < <Locator. <> < < <> < <Now we got ultra cool software programs that all are incredible! Except <> < <for me, I can not trust ANY of them. I have been testing several to see <> < <what I will make my primary program. BUT...... and there always is a <> < <"BUT" isn't there? I can not say what one to "Trust" <> < <The four I have installed are... <> < <SatLookDown1_28 <> < <HRDSatTrack <> < <Orbitron <> < <SatPC32 <> < < <> < <Now of course they all use the same computer clock. And it is accurate <> < <to less than a tenth of a second. <> < < <> < <Each one periodically ask to Up-Date the TLE's and I say "YES" and let <> < <them do it all on their own. I change NOTHING on where they get their data. <> < < <> < <The run them. <> < < <> < <The, <> < <SatLookDown1_28 & HRDSatTrack, both agree very closely. Almost to the <> < <second. <> < < <> < <But the Orbitron, is off, WAY off. like 15 minutes off. <> < < <> < <And the SatPC32 is even worse the sat is like 1/2 an orbit off! <> < < <> < <Now the ones that agree also match the page <> < < <> < <http://www.amsat.org.ar/pass.htm# <> < < <> < <So my guess they are the ones showing correct data. <> < < <> < <Now what to do about the other two. How can I make them show correct passes? <> < < <> < <Remember I can take this off list if no one wants to read about this... <> < <Just let me know, <> < < <> < <Joe WB9SBD <> < <-- <> < <Sig <> < <The Original Rolling Ball Clock <> < <Idle Tyme <> < <Idle-Tyme.com <> < <http://www.idle-tyme.com <> < <_______________________________________________ <> < <Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org mailto:AMSAT-BB@amsat.org . 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