
I'm not seeing BRICSAT on the Satellite Pass Predictions page any longer. Anyone know why?
Thanks
David, KK4QOE

Those elements were removed from today's AMSAT keps set for some reason. I noticed that after updating my HamSat iPhone app.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:49 AM, David L Warnberg [email protected] wrote:
I'm not seeing BRICSAT on the Satellite Pass Predictions page any longer. Anyone know why?
Thanks
David, KK4QOE
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Are the BRICSat and PSAT predictions the same? They are not that far apart are they?
Steve AI9IN
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stoetzer" [email protected] To: "David L Warnberg" [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat
Those elements were removed from today's AMSAT keps set for some reason. I noticed that after updating my HamSat iPhone app.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:49 AM, David L Warnberg [email protected] wrote:
I'm not seeing BRICSAT on the Satellite Pass Predictions page any longer. Anyone know why?
Thanks
David, KK4QOE
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Steve Kristoff [email protected]
"A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924

They were always fairly close but I don't think they were the same..
David, KK4QOE
-----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Kristoff Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat
Are the BRICSat and PSAT predictions the same? They are not that far apart are they?
Steve AI9IN
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stoetzer" [email protected] To: "David L Warnberg" [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat
Those elements were removed from today's AMSAT keps set for some reason. I noticed that after updating my HamSat iPhone app.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:49 AM, David L Warnberg [email protected] wrote:
I'm not seeing BRICSAT on the Satellite Pass Predictions page any longer. Anyone know why?
Thanks
David, KK4QOE
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Speaking of... am I going blind or is that one also missing from the Satellite Pass Predictions page??
David, KK4QOE
-----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Kristoff Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat
Are the BRICSat and PSAT predictions the same? They are not that far apart are they?
Steve AI9IN
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stoetzer" [email protected] To: "David L Warnberg" [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat
Those elements were removed from today's AMSAT keps set for some reason. I noticed that after updating my HamSat iPhone app.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:49 AM, David L Warnberg [email protected] wrote:
I'm not seeing BRICSAT on the Satellite Pass Predictions page any longer. Anyone know why?
Thanks
David, KK4QOE
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Yes. Both of them were removed from today's set of AMSAT keps for some reason. The AMSAT keps are what populate the Online Pass Predictions page.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:46 AM, David L Warnberg [email protected] wrote:
Speaking of... am I going blind or is that one also missing from the Satellite Pass Predictions page??
David, KK4QOE
-----Original Message----- From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Kristoff Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat
Are the BRICSat and PSAT predictions the same? They are not that far apart are they?
Steve AI9IN
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stoetzer" [email protected] To: "David L Warnberg" [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat
Those elements were removed from today's AMSAT keps set for some reason. I noticed that after updating my HamSat iPhone app.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:49 AM, David L Warnberg [email protected] wrote:
I'm not seeing BRICSAT on the Satellite Pass Predictions page any longer. Anyone know why?
Thanks
David, KK4QOE
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Steve Kristoff [email protected]
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Speaking of... am I going blind or is that one also missing from the Satellite Pass Predictions page??
See below for the element set sent via AMSAT's KEPS list. Perhaps we're seeing a re-organization of the way ULTRASat elements are released at this intermediate stage when it is too early to tell exactly which object is which.
-- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM [email protected] AMSAT VP User Services
Below are KEP TLE sets associated with the 5/20/2015 Altas V launch from Cape Canaveral of a primary payload and 10 cubesats. Since these objects remain close together, the KEP sets have not been associated with any specific object. We will have to wait until enough separation has occurred to identify each individual object. This data courtesy of http://cubesat.org
Thursday, May 28 16:30 UTC
ULTRASat1 1 90720U 15148.55800340 +.00015915 +00000-0 +41830-3 0 00151 2 90720 054.9957 305.7261 0249626 201.7290 191.9953 15.12934264001200 ULTRASat2 1 90721U 15148.55880183 +.00021762 +00000-0 +56569-3 0 00135 2 90721 054.9970 305.7165 0249435 201.7510 197.7276 15.13029622001208 ULTRASat3 1 90722U 15148.55988628 +.00024288 +00000-0 +63095-3 0 00148 2 90722 054.9917 305.7171 0249333 201.7254 202.1603 15.12996790001202 ULTRASat4 1 90723U 15148.56049123 +.00010056 +00000-0 +27012-3 0 00123 2 90723 054.9948 305.7217 0249980 201.6664 202.3594 15.12772433001061 ULTRASat5 1 90724U 15148.49354887 +.00009887 +00000-0 +26946-3 0 00127 2 90724 055.0103 306.0668 0250262 201.0171 186.6917 15.12357949001191 ULTRASat6 1 90725U 15148.43160443 +.00017459 +00000-0 +46574-3 0 00140 2 90725 055.0086 306.3265 0249761 200.8643 210.1314 15.12441351001185 ULTRASat7 1 90726U 15148.42781326 +.00013069 +00000-0 +35246-3 0 00135 2 90726 055.0081 306.3680 0249815 200.8687 189.0823 15.12394338001181 ULTRASat8 1 90727U 15148.43204319 +.00016865 +00000-0 +45053-3 0 00133 2 90727 055.0123 306.3380 0249797 200.7527 212.2775 15.12424359001189 ULTRASat9 1 90728U 15148.49387326 +.00017050 +00000-0 +45481-3 0 00110 2 90728 055.0131 306.0678 0249967 200.9166 188.8458 15.12425085001033 ULTRASat10 1 90729U 15148.55978801 +.00010570 +00000-0 +28186-3 0 00148 2 90729 055.0058 305.7490 0250157 201.7152 201.2267 15.12876352001201
_______________________________________________ Via the Keps mailing list courtesy of AMSAT-NA http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/keps

Paul,
My understanding is that they were added "by hand" from the pre-launch values, rather than through the normal process. When the new set was generated, they probably got broomed, so standy by.
73s,
Alan WA4SCA
<-----Original Message----- <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Stoetzer <Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:50 AM <To: David L Warnberg <Cc: [email protected] <Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat < <Yes. Both of them were removed from today's set of AMSAT keps for some <reason. The AMSAT keps are what populate the Online Pass Predictions <page. < <73, < <Paul, N8HM < <On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:46 AM, David L Warnberg [email protected] wrote: <> Speaking of... am I going blind or is that one also missing from the <> Satellite Pass Predictions page?? <> <> David, KK4QOE <> <> -----Original Message----- <> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve <> Kristoff <> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:26 AM <> To: [email protected] <> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat <> <> Are the BRICSat and PSAT predictions the same? They are not that far apart <> are they? <> <> Steve AI9IN <> <> <> ----- Original Message ----- <> From: "Paul Stoetzer" [email protected] <> To: "David L Warnberg" [email protected] <> Cc: [email protected] <> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:52 AM <> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BRICSat <> <> <>> Those elements were removed from today's AMSAT keps set for some <>> reason. I noticed that after updating my HamSat iPhone app. <>> <>> 73, <>> <>> Paul, N8HM <>> <>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:49 AM, David L Warnberg [email protected] <>> wrote: <>>> I'm not seeing BRICSAT on the Satellite Pass Predictions page any longer. <>>> Anyone know why? <>>> <>>> <>>> <>>> Thanks <>>> <>>> <>>> <>>> David, KK4QOE <>>> <>>> _______________________________________________ <>>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. <>>> Opinions expressed <>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <>>> AMSAT-NA. <>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite <>>> program! <>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <>> _______________________________________________ <>> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions <> <>> expressed <>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <>> AMSAT-NA. <>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! <>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <> Steve Kristoff <> [email protected] <> <> "A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside <> yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the <> financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New <> Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, <> Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924 <> <> _______________________________________________ <> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions <> expressed <> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of <> AMSAT-NA. <> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! <> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <> <> _______________________________________________ <> Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed <> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. <> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! <> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb <_______________________________________________ <Sent via [email protected]. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA. <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! <Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

On 5/29/2015 9:27 AM, Alan wrote:
Paul,
My understanding is that they were added "by hand" from the pre-launch values, rather than through the normal process. When the new set was generated, they probably got broomed, so standy by.
Alan is correct. An automated process on the web server is subscribed to the KEPS mailing list, and updates nasabare.txt as well as the predictions page based on the 2l bulletin. Since there were no elements for BRICSAT, PSAT and LIGHTSAIL in this week's bulletin, they were removed from the list through the automated process, and I evidently botched my manual web site fix up Thursday night. This morning I added the new NORAD/AFSPC elements.
Steve AI9IN wrote:
<> <> Are the BRICSat and PSAT predictions the same? They are not that far apart <> are they? <> <> Steve AI9IN
Until this morning they were. Now that we have data from NORAD, they are tracked independently. The Planetary Society provided separate elements for Lightsail, so those elements were in use until Thursday.
From here on out, we expect that NORAD elements will be the best
available, and they will be included in next week's KEPS list.
Looks like CAMSAT will give us another opportunity to iron out kinks in our KEPS/web prediction systems in July before Fox-1A launches. See http://www.amsat.org/?p=4181
-Joe KM1P

I was listening for BRICSat UHF TLM this morning and got nothing. Can't go by my rig really, but maybe BRICSat isn't working?
Steve AI9IN Oldenburg IN EM79ji
----- Original Message ----- From: "David L Warnberg" [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:49 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] BRICSat
I'm not seeing BRICSAT on the Satellite Pass Predictions page any longer. Anyone know why?
Thanks
David, KK4QOE
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Steve Kristoff [email protected]
"A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle, Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924

I haven't heard a peep, either.
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
On 5/29/2015 06:54, Steve Kristoff wrote:
I was listening for BRICSat UHF TLM this morning and got nothing. Can't go by my rig really, but maybe BRICSat isn't working?
Steve AI9IN Oldenburg IN EM79ji
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