I was wondering what others may be doing when they receive an "questionnable" request for a QSL. Last week while on vacation in Orlando I attempted to make some AO51 contacts with a handheld station. Althought I was receiving many stations, I was unsuccesful in establishing a contact and never heard anyone call me back. I must have been getting out though as I have received an eQSL request from a South American station. Is it normal practice to ignore the request or to reply with refusal to QSL. If it were a mistaken callsign situation I would reply with a "sorry" but in the case of a bogus request I was wondering what others may be doing. Next time I will use a better antenna hi hi. Thanks & 73 Ian VE9IM
On 12 Mar 2009 at 17:21, Ian wrote:
I was wondering what others may be doing when they receive an "questionnable" request for a QSL.
Here is my "long politics regarding "questionnable" QSL request paper form or E form
1-If it's not in my log book burden of proof is on the sender or it will be a SWL QSL eg: One way reception report from me the transmitting.station. It helps also to add with who i was in QSO if it is the case.
2-Notice to E-QSLer please send it as fast you as you can you will increased your odds one year after the "QSO" it looks like "questionable" and click on the box send an email to advise that you send an E-QSL
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Luc Leblanc VE2DWE Skype VE2DWE www.qsl.net/ve2dwe WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
What if it was simply an honest mistake of someone writing the call down wrong and then sending for a card from whom they thought they worked. I know I have never seen a post on th bb asking for the W5 call I worked this evening to contact them.
73...bruce
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Ian, Good question. I too have recently received QSL cards with SASEs included from people that I know I never spoke with on the birds. They are going to a lot of trouble sending these, but if I never have definitively established contact with them, they shouldn't be disappointed when they don't receive a response from me. I don't like sending QSLs myself anyway. Establishing relationships with other hams is more interesting to me that establishing a card collection. Some people really get off on it and thats great for them.
Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian" Ian@mceassociates.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:21 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] QSL Etiquette
I was wondering what others may be doing when they receive an "questionnable" request for a QSL. Last week while on vacation in Orlando I attempted to make some AO51 contacts with a handheld station. Althought I was receiving many stations, I was unsuccesful in establishing a contact and never heard anyone call me back. I must have been getting out though as I have received an eQSL request from a South American station. Is it normal practice to ignore the request or to reply with refusal to QSL. If it were a mistaken callsign situation I would reply with a "sorry" but in the case of a bogus request I was wondering what others may be doing. Next time I will use a better antenna hi hi. Thanks & 73 Ian VE9IM
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You could always send a QSL confirming only his receiving you (like an SWL card on HF: strike out the "2-way Mode" section & write in "SWL")...
George, KA3HSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian" Ian@mceassociates.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:21 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] QSL Etiquette
I was wondering what others may be doing when they receive an "questionnable" request for a QSL. Last week while on vacation in Orlando I attempted to make some AO51 contacts with a handheld station. Althought I was receiving many stations, I was unsuccesful in establishing a contact and never heard anyone call me back. I must have been getting out though as I have received an eQSL request from a South American station. Is it normal practice to ignore the request or to reply with refusal to QSL. If it were a mistaken callsign situation I would reply with a "sorry" but in the case of a bogus request I was wondering what others may be doing. Next time I will use a better antenna hi hi. Thanks & 73 Ian VE9IM
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If it wasn't for a contact made from some place other than home, a good solution is to drop them an email and set up a schedule for a second QSO to make it an official two-way.
73, Drew KO4MA
But even for a 1-way acknowledgment, doesn't the receiving station need to demonstrate that they actually heard you? I seem to recall years ago that for broadcast stations you needed to supply a log of what was on the air (song list, discussion topics, etc.). Otherwise, you could get cards from every call in the book.
It may sound harsh, but if I get a card for someone not in my log, I keep it with a note as to my conclusion, but do not send a reply. Fortunately, I think it's only happened once or twice. Several times, however, I did find their call scribbled on my desk pad, but they weren't in the log because I didn't think we had a complete exchange. If their QSL info is correct, in those cases I give them the benefit of the doubt, and send a 2-way confirmation.
Greg KO6TH
From: ka3hsw@att.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:33:27 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: QSL Etiquette
You could always send a QSL confirming only his receiving you (like an SWL card on HF: strike out the "2-way Mode" section & write in "SWL")...
George, KA3HSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian" Ian@mceassociates.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:21 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] QSL Etiquette
I was wondering what others may be doing when they receive an "questionnable" request for a QSL. Last week while on vacation in Orlando I attempted to make some AO51 contacts with a handheld station. Althought I was receiving many stations, I was unsuccesful in establishing a contact and never heard anyone call me back. I must have been getting out though as I have received an eQSL request from a South American station. Is it normal practice to ignore the request or to reply with refusal to QSL. If it were a mistaken callsign situation I would reply with a "sorry" but in the case of a bogus request I was wondering what others may be doing. Next time I will use a better antenna hi hi. Thanks & 73 Ian VE9IM
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For a broadcast station that's on the air 24/7, or at least hours a day, requiring some kind of proof makes sense. But for a satellite contact, either you were, in fact, on the bird and they DID hear you, or you weren't. So if the card or request is for a date and time that I was on the satellite, I'd honor it as an SWL.
George, KA3HSW
----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg D." ko6th_greg@hotmail.com To: ka3hsw@att.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:48 AM Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: QSL Etiquette
But even for a 1-way acknowledgment, doesn't the receiving station need to demonstrate that they actually heard you? I seem to recall years ago that for broadcast stations you needed to supply a log of what was on the air (song list, discussion topics, etc.). Otherwise, you could get cards from every call in the book.
It may sound harsh, but if I get a card for someone not in my log, I keep it with a note as to my conclusion, but do not send a reply. Fortunately, I think it's only happened once or twice. Several times, however, I did find their call scribbled on my desk pad, but they weren't in the log because I didn't think we had a complete exchange. If their QSL info is correct, in those cases I give them the benefit of the doubt, and send a 2-way confirmation.
Greg KO6TH
Here is my experience from a newbie with 34 logged contacts, 16 confirmed.
I've received a couple of QSL cards (e and paper) that I didn't have any log entries for or my log data was different. I record, or at least try to, all my contacts and save the recordings as an .mp3 file. In the cases above, I have attempted to email the sender and explain the discrepancy and ask if they have an audio recording they could send in the case of it not being in my log. If it is a data discrepancy I explain that and ask that they double check their log. In one case the sender replied that he had indeed listed the wrong satellite and would send me a new card.
I've also been on the other side. Last April my HD crashed, I lost my logbook and I was unable to find any backup. Getting involved in other things, I was "off the air" until this February when I happened across a backup of my logbook in an old CD-R I was searching. I noticed that there were some contacts I hadn't sent QSLs for nor received. I sent the QSLs along with a note explaining the delay. Reading some of the responses I now understand why I haven't received any replies <grin>. I did receive one card returned explaining that the QSO was not in the log.
In the past, I have trimmed my recordings to only the time I make contact. What I think I'm going to do now is also save the raw recording for a couple of months incase I need to verify a questionable QSL either sent or received.
73, Kent K5KNT AMSAT #36765 ARRL Sent from: San angelo TX United States.
Hi Kent & the group,
I plan on making recordings myself here so I can go back and get the details. Kinda hard with an arrow in one hand, an HT in the other and an overloaded cerebrum in the middle. :) Anyhow it's fun and it's what you make of it and as time progresses, I'm sure I'll be finding shortcuts that will benefit me.
Losing data is always a pain and backing it up can be just as painful as well. I hope this doesn't sound like a shameless plug, but what I've done is sign up for Carbonite for data backup over the internet. Unlimited amount for a good price and you can save yourself a big headache, if or when, something goes wrong. My logs and audio recordings are already there.
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Frazier" k5knt.kent@gmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:16 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: QSL Etiquette
Here is my experience from a newbie with 34 logged contacts, 16 confirmed.
I've received a couple of QSL cards (e and paper) that I didn't have any log entries for or my log data was different. I record, or at least try to, all my contacts and save the recordings as an .mp3 file. In the cases above, I have attempted to email the sender and explain the discrepancy and ask if they have an audio recording they could send in the case of it not being in my log. If it is a data discrepancy I explain that and ask that they double check their log. In one case the sender replied that he had indeed listed the wrong satellite and would send me a new card.
I've also been on the other side. Last April my HD crashed, I lost my logbook and I was unable to find any backup. Getting involved in other things, I was "off the air" until this February when I happened across a backup of my logbook in an old CD-R I was searching. I noticed that there were some contacts I hadn't sent QSLs for nor received. I sent the QSLs along with a note explaining the delay. Reading some of the responses I now understand why I haven't received any replies <grin>. I did receive one card returned explaining that the QSO was not in the log.
In the past, I have trimmed my recordings to only the time I make contact. What I think I'm going to do now is also save the raw recording for a couple of months incase I need to verify a questionable QSL either sent or received.
73, Kent K5KNT AMSAT #36765 ARRL Sent from: San angelo TX United States. _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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