Odd how we must rely on the Internet to figure out if it's okay to request (or demand) a return qsl.... The Internet is changing how hams operate..... Am I the only one finding that comical? Is it laziness? Too cheap to buy a stamp? Or?? Why must the 'easy' way define the future of the hobby? Doesn't seem like our track record to me...
I'm not against the Internet, or any of the wonderful programs catered to our hobby, but question how it's changing some habits and how others resist.... As another mentioned, it is very similar to the CW debate....
Until satellite ops, I never had a request for a qsl...... Nor did I have cards for such..... After a wave of request due to my satellite ops, I've ordered cards which have yet to arrive.... So please, if you have requested a card from me, no worries, you'll get one..... Just don't threaten please! I am much more of a 'rag chewer' than a 'contester'... I did satellite ops only to become proficient for an ARISS contact I was hosting for a school.....
The large amount of cards sent with SASE's sent guilted me into ordering those cards (cheap ones, but enough to get the job done)....
I am very sad to see how this subject began.... I hope those I mentor (or talk into joining the hobby) don't end up butting heads with the jerk's in our hobby, but every hobby and group has them..... Heck, to be honest, any group willing to have me as a member is a sure sign of a dysfunctional group right off the bat! (I can be a jerk too - just ask the wife!)
But we really are shooting a dead horse here on this subject.....
Cards on the way folks! Promise! Just give me time to get them in and prepared!
Thanks! Doug K4GKJ
Doug Bennight - K4GKJ 528-5772
-------- Original message -------- From: Patrick [email protected] Date: 04/13/2015 8:39 PM (GMT-05:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Final email.
On 4/13/2015 12:44 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote:
First of all, define "timely manner". This is a very subjective standard, and will differ based on the QSO/QSL scenario.
I understand completely. Like all disputes, this one is mainly based on miscommunication (or no communication) between the two parties. I think the best thing to do is post on QRZ (or wherever) an advisory along the lines of "I will QSL when I get time but I'm a very busy person so don't expect it inside of 6 months". :)
I do think if someone is emailing you and getting frustrated, the best avenue to settle things is to either a) answer and explain or b) take care of whatever it is the complaint is about and get on with your life. In this case, personally, I'd just taken the two minutes to fill out the QSL and dropped it in the mail. If for anything, just so I didn't have to be bothered anymore. Sometimes sticking with your pride and making a point isn't the best way to handle things, even if you're 100% in the right.
We're all hams and members of an extended "ham family". We need to be watching out for each other, doing whatever we can to help one another, and sticking together in order to ensure a firm stand against those people who don't have our best interests at heart. If that means sometimes I have to cut someone slack I don't particularly like, then so be it. I'll expect the same treatment when I fall short as well. :)
Patrick K4PNR
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Well said!
Kevin KK6NHN
On Apr 13, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Doug - k4GKJ [email protected] wrote:
Odd how we must rely on the Internet to figure out if it's okay to request (or demand) a return qsl.... The Internet is changing how hams operate..... Am I the only one finding that comical? Is it laziness? Too cheap to buy a stamp? Or?? Why must the 'easy' way define the future of the hobby? Doesn't seem like our track record to me...
I'm not against the Internet, or any of the wonderful programs catered to our hobby, but question how it's changing some habits and how others resist.... As another mentioned, it is very similar to the CW debate....
Until satellite ops, I never had a request for a qsl...... Nor did I have cards for such..... After a wave of request due to my satellite ops, I've ordered cards which have yet to arrive.... So please, if you have requested a card from me, no worries, you'll get one..... Just don't threaten please! I am much more of a 'rag chewer' than a 'contester'... I did satellite ops only to become proficient for an ARISS contact I was hosting for a school.....
The large amount of cards sent with SASE's sent guilted me into ordering those cards (cheap ones, but enough to get the job done)....
I am very sad to see how this subject began.... I hope those I mentor (or talk into joining the hobby) don't end up butting heads with the jerk's in our hobby, but every hobby and group has them..... Heck, to be honest, any group willing to have me as a member is a sure sign of a dysfunctional group right off the bat! (I can be a jerk too - just ask the wife!)
But we really are shooting a dead horse here on this subject.....
Cards on the way folks! Promise! Just give me time to get them in and prepared!
Thanks! Doug K4GKJ
Doug Bennight - K4GKJ 528-5772
-------- Original message -------- From: Patrick [email protected] Date: 04/13/2015 8:39 PM (GMT-05:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Final email.
On 4/13/2015 12:44 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote:
First of all, define "timely manner". This is a very subjective standard, and will differ based on the QSO/QSL scenario.
I understand completely. Like all disputes, this one is mainly based on miscommunication (or no communication) between the two parties. I think the best thing to do is post on QRZ (or wherever) an advisory along the lines of "I will QSL when I get time but I'm a very busy person so don't expect it inside of 6 months". :)
I do think if someone is emailing you and getting frustrated, the best avenue to settle things is to either a) answer and explain or b) take care of whatever it is the complaint is about and get on with your life. In this case, personally, I'd just taken the two minutes to fill out the QSL and dropped it in the mail. If for anything, just so I didn't have to be bothered anymore. Sometimes sticking with your pride and making a point isn't the best way to handle things, even if you're 100% in the right.
We're all hams and members of an extended "ham family". We need to be watching out for each other, doing whatever we can to help one another, and sticking together in order to ensure a firm stand against those people who don't have our best interests at heart. If that means sometimes I have to cut someone slack I don't particularly like, then so be it. I'll expect the same treatment when I fall short as well. :)
Patrick K4PNR
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