With all these new sats that are not voice, I was thinking people would probly be more interested and get more invovled if there were something more than just decoding the telemetry like SEEDS II offers Qsl cards and secret words, stuff like that.
Just thought I would throw that out there see what people think. :)
Kevin KF7MYK
Yes,
Kevin, point made. The only way we can change that is by working closely together with these projects and having a tangible influence in their hardware and software development. Out of curiosity, I always wondered why AMSAT would not offer semi complete communication packages, (Data, Rx, Tx) for cubesats for sale, which automatically would have a set of interesting protocols, tools and options embedded. Using RF components from DataTech or Radiometrix would potentially simplify the task. The end user could spend more time and effort focusing on experiments and other additional payload. Don't know if AMSAT ever did a market analysis for this. However, it might something to consider as a proof of concept for FOX or other following cubesats by AMSAT.
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Kevin Deane [email protected] wrote:
With all these new sats that are not voice, I was thinking people would probly be more interested and get more invovled if there were something more than just decoding the telemetry like SEEDS II offers Qsl cards and secret words, stuff like that.
Just thought I would throw that out there see what people think. :)
Kevin KF7MYK
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Stefan,
I believe that AMSAT-NA plans to offer semi-complete communications packages to the Cubesat community. That is one of the expected outcomes of the Fox project, which is AMSAT-NA's first cubesat.
73, Steve N9IP -- -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stefan Wagener Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:42 AM To: Kevin Deane Cc: [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Yes,
Kevin, point made. The only way we can change that is by working closely together with these projects and having a tangible influence in their hardware and software development. Out of curiosity, I always wondered why AMSAT would not offer semi complete communication packages, (Data, Rx, Tx) for cubesats for sale, which automatically would have a set of interesting protocols, tools and options embedded. Using RF components from DataTech or Radiometrix would potentially simplify the task. The end user could spend more time and effort focusing on experiments and other additional payload. Don't know if AMSAT ever did a market analysis for this. However, it might something to consider as a proof of concept for FOX or other following cubesats by AMSAT.
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Kevin Deane [email protected] wrote:
With all these new sats that are not voice, I was thinking people would probly be more interested and get more invovled if there were something more than just decoding the telemetry like SEEDS II offers Qsl cards and secret words, stuff like that.
Just thought I would throw that out there see what people think. :)
Kevin KF7MYK
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Stefan,
As Steve says, providing turnkey communications is of significant interest, both to AMSAT and potential users. Of course, one always has to be aware, and wary of ITAR issues for even such relatively mundane equipment.
Alan WA4SCA
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen E. Belter Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 8:49 AM To: Stefan Wagener Cc: [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Stefan,
I believe that AMSAT-NA plans to offer semi-complete communications packages to the Cubesat community. That is one of the expected outcomes of the Fox project, which is AMSAT-NA's first cubesat.
73, Steve N9IP -- -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stefan Wagener Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:42 AM To: Kevin Deane Cc: [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Yes,
Kevin, point made. The only way we can change that is by working closely together with these projects and having a tangible influence in their hardware and software development. Out of curiosity, I always wondered why AMSAT would not offer semi complete communication packages, (Data, Rx, Tx) for cubesats for sale, which automatically would have a set of interesting protocols, tools and options embedded. Using RF components from DataTech or Radiometrix would potentially simplify the task. The end user could spend more time and effort focusing on experiments and other additional payload. Don't know if AMSAT ever did a market analysis for this. However, it might something to consider as a proof of concept for FOX or other following cubesats by AMSAT.
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Kevin Deane [email protected] wrote:
With all these new sats that are not voice, I was thinking people would
probly be more interested and get more invovled if there were something more than just decoding the telemetry like SEEDS II offers Qsl cards and secret words, stuff like that.
Just thought I would throw that out there see what people think. :)
Kevin KF7MYK
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Stefan - Alan is right, ITAR is a severe barrier to most cooperative projects. :-(
Nonetheless, it was mentioned several times at the 2010 AMSAT-NA Symposium and other places that we want to place our RF package on university CubeSats. For example, these quotes from the AMSAT-Fox news on the website: "AMSAT's flexible, CubeSat compatible software defined transponder is a new approach providing a robust and reliable radio link for future CubeSats allowing university teams to concentrate on their scientific objectives. Future CubeSat missions using AMSAT Fox technology will have an amateur space service capable transponder aboard which may continue to be utilized by radio amateurs once the primary scientific objectives of the University research flights have been met."
The development and launch of ARISSat-1 has been a significant step towards our next generation satellite platform. Fox will take the lessons learned from ARISSat-1 and will repackage the hardware to fit the CubeSat form factor. To quote Tony AA2TX and AMSAT-NA VP of Engineering "When the Fox project is completed, we will have something concrete to offer."
So that's the plan on the CubeSat front. The AMSAT-NA board also continues to look for MEO and HEO opportunities, and for a possible ARISSat-2.
73, Steve N9IP -- -----Original Message----- From: Alan P. Biddle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:59 AM To: Stephen E. Belter Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Stefan,
As Steve says, providing turnkey communications is of significant interest, both to AMSAT and potential users. Of course, one always has to be aware, and wary of ITAR issues for even such relatively mundane equipment.
Alan WA4SCA
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen E. Belter Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 8:49 AM To: Stefan Wagener Cc: [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Stefan,
I believe that AMSAT-NA plans to offer semi-complete communications packages to the Cubesat community. That is one of the expected outcomes of the Fox project, which is AMSAT-NA's first cubesat.
73, Steve N9IP -- -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stefan Wagener Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:42 AM To: Kevin Deane Cc: [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Yes,
Kevin, point made. The only way we can change that is by working closely together with these projects and having a tangible influence in their hardware and software development. Out of curiosity, I always wondered why AMSAT would not offer semi complete communication packages, (Data, Rx, Tx) for cubesats for sale, which automatically would have a set of interesting protocols, tools and options embedded. Using RF components from DataTech or Radiometrix would potentially simplify the task. The end user could spend more time and effort focusing on experiments and other additional payload. Don't know if AMSAT ever did a market analysis for this. However, it might something to consider as a proof of concept for FOX or other following cubesats by AMSAT.
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Kevin Deane [email protected] wrote:
With all these new sats that are not voice, I was thinking people would
probly be more interested and get more invovled if there were something more than just decoding the telemetry like SEEDS II offers Qsl cards and secret words, stuff like that.
Just thought I would throw that out there see what people think. :)
Kevin KF7MYK
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Excellent!
Just made my financial support for Fox!
Stefan, VE4NSA
Go CubeSat Go
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Stephen E. Belter [email protected] wrote:
Stefan - Alan is right, ITAR is a severe barrier to most cooperative projects. :-(
Nonetheless, it was mentioned several times at the 2010 AMSAT-NA Symposium and other places that we want to place our RF package on university CubeSats. For example, these quotes from the AMSAT-Fox news on the website: "AMSAT's flexible, CubeSat compatible software defined transponder is a new approach providing a robust and reliable radio link for future CubeSats allowing university teams to concentrate on their scientific objectives. Future CubeSat missions using AMSAT Fox technology will have an amateur space service capable transponder aboard which may continue to be utilized by radio amateurs once the primary scientific objectives of the University research flights have been met."
The development and launch of ARISSat-1 has been a significant step towards our next generation satellite platform. Fox will take the lessons learned from ARISSat-1 and will repackage the hardware to fit the CubeSat form factor. To quote Tony AA2TX and AMSAT-NA VP of Engineering "When the Fox project is completed, we will have something concrete to offer."
So that's the plan on the CubeSat front. The AMSAT-NA board also continues to look for MEO and HEO opportunities, and for a possible ARISSat-2.
73, Steve N9IP
-----Original Message----- From: Alan P. Biddle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:59 AM To: Stephen E. Belter Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Stefan,
As Steve says, providing turnkey communications is of significant interest, both to AMSAT and potential users. Of course, one always has to be aware, and wary of ITAR issues for even such relatively mundane equipment.
Alan WA4SCA
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen E. Belter Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 8:49 AM To: Stefan Wagener Cc: [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Stefan,
I believe that AMSAT-NA plans to offer semi-complete communications packages to the Cubesat community. That is one of the expected outcomes of the Fox project, which is AMSAT-NA's first cubesat.
73, Steve N9IP
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stefan Wagener Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:42 AM To: Kevin Deane Cc: [email protected] Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Sats
Yes,
Kevin, point made. The only way we can change that is by working closely together with these projects and having a tangible influence in their hardware and software development. Out of curiosity, I always wondered why AMSAT would not offer semi complete communication packages, (Data, Rx, Tx) for cubesats for sale, which automatically would have a set of interesting protocols, tools and options embedded. Using RF components from DataTech or Radiometrix would potentially simplify the task. The end user could spend more time and effort focusing on experiments and other additional payload. Don't know if AMSAT ever did a market analysis for this. However, it might something to consider as a proof of concept for FOX or other following cubesats by AMSAT.
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Kevin Deane [email protected] wrote:
With all these new sats that are not voice, I was thinking people would
probly be more interested and get more invovled if there were something more than just decoding the telemetry like SEEDS II offers Qsl cards and secret words, stuff like that.
Just thought I would throw that out there see what people think. :)
Kevin KF7MYK
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Thank you, Stefan!
73 Jerry N0JY
On 10/22/2011 10:58 AM, Stefan Wagener wrote:
Excellent!
Just made my financial support for Fox!
Stefan, VE4NSA
Go CubeSat Go
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