Re: [amsat-bb] New Duplexer and AO-85
Yes, Thanks to Jerry for taking time from your day to type a reply and answer questions.
I certainly didn't intend my message from early this morning to sound harsh, and I apologize if I came off that way. Like others, I spent quite a deal of time researching the new Fox-1 satellite and after watching the video posted on AMSATS "Meet The Fox Project", around the 7:53 mark is where it is stated that operators with hand held equipment would be able to work this new satellite. So, I was quite eager and anxious to have something else circling the globe other than just SO-50 for us FM'ers, as I do not have the proper equipment to work the linear birds. I don't have to rehash the issues that came along and I found that working this new bird with hand held equipment was not as easy as it was presented in the video, and yes, I did become a bit frustrated ... kind of like getting that new train for Christmas and finding that you don't have a locomotive to pull the train. So if I stepped on toes, I am truly sorry. I will sit back, be patient, and let this be a learning experience, since from the time I entered into the amateur radio satellite arena, there were already working FM birds in place, two of those which have since "passed away". This is my first experience of having a new FM bird launched into space and I admit, I was expecting it to work as well as what is already up there. This is truly a learning experience for the people who turned the first screw right down to those of us who eagerly watch our tracking data and step outside to wave an antenna at the sky (while getting peculiar looks from our neighbors). My hats off to all those who are involved with the Fox project, and I do look forward to the future Fox satellites. Take care and have a great day.
Loon
On 10/28/2015 12:31, W3MAT . wrote:
I certainly didn't intend my message from early this morning to sound harsh, and I apologize if I came off that way.
You were not harsh, you spoke the truth. My policy is that you can't get something done if you're not honest. Tell me the truth, don't worry about hurting my feelings that's my problem. I'm sure all y'all are familiar with how to solve a problem - describe it well, and be willing to help, in this case perhaps by testing/reporting more if asked.
I would appreciate it if you could send me the URL for that video, so I can understand which one it is and exactly what was said. Especially if it was me saying it, I tend to forget what happened two weeks ago if it's not engineering stuff.
And believe me the whole Fox Team is unhappy with the missing locomotive (or the fact that it's an underpowered one) so we're working hard to make sure we learn from it and don't repeat the situation. We'd also plan to test AO-85 more and offer suggestions on how to best work the satellite.
This is the nature of amateur radio satellites, you don't get a do-over. But you do gain invaluable experience. Ground testing revealed no such problem as we are seeing; Murphy on the other hand doesn't care about that and a drop dead date is just that regardless you being as ready as you'd like to be. That is the nature of hitchhiking a ride on a rocket! You go with what you've got or you don't go at all (and may never get the chance for a free ride again if you don't deliver).
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
*I would appreciate it if you could send me the URL for that video, so I*
*can understand which one it is and exactly what was said*
Here's the link Jerry ... https://youtu.be/nPYofZojyNs
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Jerry Buxton n0jy@amsat.org wrote:
On 10/28/2015 12:31, W3MAT . wrote:
I certainly didn't intend my message from early this morning to sound harsh, and I apologize if I came off that way.
You were not harsh, you spoke the truth. My policy is that you can't get something done if you're not honest. Tell me the truth, don't worry about hurting my feelings that's my problem. I'm sure all y'all are familiar with how to solve a problem - describe it well, and be willing to help, in this case perhaps by testing/reporting more if asked.
I would appreciate it if you could send me the URL for that video, so I can understand which one it is and exactly what was said. Especially if it was me saying it, I tend to forget what happened two weeks ago if it's not engineering stuff.
And believe me the whole Fox Team is unhappy with the missing locomotive (or the fact that it's an underpowered one) so we're working hard to make sure we learn from it and don't repeat the situation. We'd also plan to test AO-85 more and offer suggestions on how to best work the satellite.
This is the nature of amateur radio satellites, you don't get a do-over. But you do gain invaluable experience. Ground testing revealed no such problem as we are seeing; Murphy on the other hand doesn't care about that and a drop dead date is just that regardless you being as ready as you'd like to be. That is the nature of hitchhiking a ride on a rocket! You go with what you've got or you don't go at all (and may never get the chance for a free ride again if you don't deliver).
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
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