ISS Unattended Beacon Theory (UBT) - PROVE ME WRONG!
I worked an ISS pass earlier tonight on packet. I copied 18 stations digipeated via the ISS. However, only one of them responded to any kind of live, keyboard-to-keyboard action. The other stations seemed very dedicated to letting the world know their name and city every 1-2 minutes.
Surely my theory that 80% of the stations are unattended beacons, pass after pass, must be wrong.
Please, prove me wrong at 0200Z 19-April, and show me that people have two-way QSO's and not just beacon their name and city continuously for 24 hours.
73 Clayton W5PFG
Well? I didn't join in because that would have upset the experiment since I'm not usually on there anyway. So what happened?
Jerry Buxton, NØJY
On 4/18/2016 20:30, Clayton Coleman wrote:
I worked an ISS pass earlier tonight on packet. I copied 18 stations digipeated via the ISS. However, only one of them responded to any kind of live, keyboard-to-keyboard action. The other stations seemed very dedicated to letting the world know their name and city every 1-2 minutes.
Surely my theory that 80% of the stations are unattended beacons, pass after pass, must be wrong.
Please, prove me wrong at 0200Z 19-April, and show me that people have two-way QSO's and not just beacon their name and city continuously for 24 hours.
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Hi Clayton,
I'm one of the ones that is not beaconing 24x7. BUT, given your challenge, i hope to jump in and keyboard (unproto) sometime soon.
Thanks, Mike W4UOO
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On Apr 18, 2016, at 9:30 PM, Clayton Coleman kayakfishtx@gmail.com wrote:
I worked an ISS pass earlier tonight on packet. I copied 18 stations digipeated via the ISS. However, only one of them responded to any kind of live, keyboard-to-keyboard action. The other stations seemed very dedicated to letting the world know their name and city every 1-2 minutes.
Surely my theory that 80% of the stations are unattended beacons, pass after pass, must be wrong.
Please, prove me wrong at 0200Z 19-April, and show me that people have two-way QSO's and not just beacon their name and city continuously for 24 hours.
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Clayton,
Over Europe I've only seen twice a true QSO using ISS digipeater in the past 2 years. Otherwise just people with unattended beacons.
73 Pedro CU2ZG
Quoting Clayton Coleman kayakfishtx@gmail.com:
I worked an ISS pass earlier tonight on packet. I copied 18 stations digipeated via the ISS. However, only one of them responded to any kind of live, keyboard-to-keyboard action. The other stations seemed very dedicated to letting the world know their name and city every 1-2 minutes.
Surely my theory that 80% of the stations are unattended beacons, pass after pass, must be wrong.
Please, prove me wrong at 0200Z 19-April, and show me that people have two-way QSO's and not just beacon their name and city continuously for 24 hours.
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Constant beaconing is such a waste of a good resource. Some people are clearly just beaconing 24/7/365 on 145.825 MHz.
I know this problem has existed ever since the ISS digipeater was turned on 15+ years ago and complaining on the BB isn't likely to solve it, but it's just mind boggling why people bother with such a useless endeavor. Use the digipeater either for live keyboard-to-keyboard QSOs or neat experiments like sending an email via the ISS or controlling robots. 24/7/365 beaconing just makes it tough to use the digipeater for useful purposes.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Pedro via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote:
Clayton,
Over Europe I've only seen twice a true QSO using ISS digipeater in the past 2 years. Otherwise just people with unattended beacons.
73 Pedro CU2ZG
Quoting Clayton Coleman kayakfishtx@gmail.com:
I worked an ISS pass earlier tonight on packet. I copied 18 stations digipeated via the ISS. However, only one of them responded to any kind of live, keyboard-to-keyboard action. The other stations seemed very dedicated to letting the world know their name and city every 1-2 minutes.
Surely my theory that 80% of the stations are unattended beacons, pass after pass, must be wrong.
Please, prove me wrong at 0200Z 19-April, and show me that people have two-way QSO's and not just beacon their name and city continuously for 24 hours.
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My beacon is set to 30 minutes, but the station is 24/7 as a satgate.
Pedro
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On 19 Apr 2016, at 12:42, Paul Stoetzer n8hm@arrl.net wrote:
Constant beaconing is such a waste of a good resource. Some people are clearly just beaconing 24/7/365 on 145.825 MHz.
I know this problem has existed ever since the ISS digipeater was turned on 15+ years ago and complaining on the BB isn't likely to solve it, but it's just mind boggling why people bother with such a useless endeavor. Use the digipeater either for live keyboard-to-keyboard QSOs or neat experiments like sending an email via the ISS or controlling robots. 24/7/365 beaconing just makes it tough to use the digipeater for useful purposes.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Pedro via AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org wrote: Clayton,
Over Europe I've only seen twice a true QSO using ISS digipeater in the past 2 years. Otherwise just people with unattended beacons.
73 Pedro CU2ZG
Quoting Clayton Coleman kayakfishtx@gmail.com:
I worked an ISS pass earlier tonight on packet. I copied 18 stations digipeated via the ISS. However, only one of them responded to any kind of live, keyboard-to-keyboard action. The other stations seemed very dedicated to letting the world know their name and city every 1-2 minutes.
Surely my theory that 80% of the stations are unattended beacons, pass after pass, must be wrong.
Please, prove me wrong at 0200Z 19-April, and show me that people have two-way QSO's and not just beacon their name and city continuously for 24 hours.
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