The REAL future of S-Band (was "Special AMSAT dinner")
Actually, I suspect that 3 years from now, we will see 2.4 GHz thinning out, as WiFi users migrate to the new latest-and-greatest products at 5.8 or higher. We all know that the lifespan of your typical computer "widget" is less than 5 years, and usually closer to 3. Already, stores like Best Buy and Circuit City are carrying way more 5.8 cordless phones than 2.4's... and when was the last time you saw a 900 MHz version? It wasn't that long ago that THEY were the cutting edge cordless!
The same thing will happen with WiFi: all the new laptops and PDA's will come with the higher frequency cards, and users will be forced to migrate upward. You can take that to the bank! So put S-band on Eagle - I predict that it'll be wide open in 10 years, NOT a sewer.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruninga" [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Special AMSAT dinner
Three years from now when we have to suffer from a new round of comlaints about 2.4 GHz QRM interfering with the P3E Sband downlink, we could have a special AMSAT dinner. The main entrée might be crow.
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Hi all: Where can I get some verbose shuttle keps?
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Henry Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 1:45 PM To: amsat bb Subject: [amsat-bb] The REAL future of S-Band (was "Special AMSAT dinner")
Actually, I suspect that 3 years from now, we will see 2.4 GHz thinning out, as WiFi users migrate to the new latest-and-greatest products at 5.8 or higher. We all know that the lifespan of your typical computer "widget" is less than 5 years, and usually closer to 3. Already, stores like Best Buy and Circuit City are carrying way more 5.8 cordless phones than 2.4's...
and when was the last time you saw a 900 MHz version? It wasn't that long ago that THEY were the cutting edge cordless!
The same thing will happen with WiFi: all the new laptops and PDA's will come with the higher frequency cards, and users will be forced to migrate upward. You can take that to the bank! So put S-band on Eagle - I predict that it'll be wide open in 10 years, NOT a sewer.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruninga" [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Special AMSAT dinner
Three years from now when we have to suffer from a new round of comlaints about 2.4 GHz QRM interfering with the P3E Sband downlink, we could have a special AMSAT dinner. The main entrée might be crow.
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At 12:28 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
Hi all: Where can I get some verbose shuttle keps?
Hi George,
I don't believe anyone except AMSAT routinely generates verbose keps, but you should be able to decode them from the keps from Space-Track. Here is the key: http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/information/faqs/kepformats.php
73,
Emily
At 12:47 PM -0700 9/9/06, Emily Clarke wrote:
I don't believe anyone except AMSAT routinely generates verbose keps,
It turns out that NASA's web page for shuttle keps DOES have verbose format keps on it.
Go to http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/keps.php and follow the link for shuttle elements.
Here's the direct link: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/SSapplications/Post/JavaSSOP/...
73 -Paul [email protected]
and yes, this is off-topic for AMSAT-BB since there's no amateur radio connection.
I didn't know that! Thanks Paul!
73,
Emily
At 01:01 PM 9/9/2006, Paul Williamson wrote:
At 12:47 PM -0700 9/9/06, Emily Clarke wrote:
I don't believe anyone except AMSAT routinely generates verbose keps,
It turns out that NASA's web page for shuttle keps DOES have verbose format keps on it.
Go to http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/keps.php and follow the link for shuttle elements.
Here's the direct link: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/SSapplications/Post/JavaSSOP/...
73 -Paul [email protected]
and yes, this is off-topic for AMSAT-BB since there's no amateur radio connection.
Thanks !
-----Original Message----- From: Emily Clarke [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:04 PM To: Paul Williamson Cc: GEORGE ABBOTT; [email protected] Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: off topic
I didn't know that! Thanks Paul!
73,
Emily
At 01:01 PM 9/9/2006, Paul Williamson wrote:
At 12:47 PM -0700 9/9/06, Emily Clarke wrote:
I don't believe anyone except AMSAT routinely generates verbose keps,
It turns out that NASA's web page for shuttle keps DOES have verbose format keps on it.
Go to http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/keps.php and follow the link for shuttle elements.
Here's the direct link: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/SSapplications/Post/Java
SSOP/orbit/SHUTTLE/SVPOST.html
73 -Paul [email protected]
and yes, this is off-topic for AMSAT-BB since there's no amateur radio connection.
The same thing will happen with WiFi: all the new laptops and PDA's will come with the higher frequency cards, and users will be forced to migrate upward. You can take that to the bank!
I disagree. Sure, eveyrthing is going up because 2.4 is overcrowded. But as soon as the higher bands get satruated, market forces will see a return to whatever band is still viable. It 2.4 thins out, then more future consumer devices will just come back in...
No way will a "license free band" ever become empty or abandoned (yes, 49 MHz may have, but it has so little bandwdith...that no one wants it? Bob
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