Re: [amsat-bb] Band designators, Modes
We have been using the term "Mode K" to describe 21 MHz uplink/29 MHz downlink because that is what AMSAT called it when it first came into use in 1987. Similarly, the terms "Mode A" and "Mode B" came into use in 1974 because that is what the engineers who designed AMSAT-OSCAR 7 called them. AO-7 actually has four modes: Mode C is a low-power version of Mode B, and Mode D is "transponder off." Then came Fuji-OSCAR 12 with Modes JA (analogue) and JD (digital), where "J" stood for "Japan." FCC even included the definitions of Modes A and B in the written tests of that era.
This "ancient history" has probably served its purpose. Art is right: we'd do better to stick with the numbers.
73 Ray W2RS
I agree with Art and Ray. We should just use the frequency or frequency range when referring to a radio band. I have found myself at times having to check which of the several standards (isn't it nice to have so many?) an author used when referring to radio bands. It is much easier and clearer to just refer a band by the frequency.
73, Edson PY2SDR
--- - We humans have the capability to do amazing things if we work together. - Nós seres humanos temos a capacidade de fazer coisas incríveis se trabalharmos juntos.
On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 1:30 PM, RSoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB <[email protected]
wrote:
We have been using the term "Mode K" to describe 21 MHz uplink/29 MHz downlink because that is what AMSAT called it when it first came into use in 1987. Similarly, the terms "Mode A" and "Mode B" came into use in 1974 because that is what the engineers who designed AMSAT-OSCAR 7 called them. AO-7 actually has four modes: Mode C is a low-power version of Mode B, and Mode D is "transponder off." Then came Fuji-OSCAR 12 with Modes JA (analogue) and JD (digital), where "J" stood for "Japan." FCC even included the definitions of Modes A and B in the written tests of that era.
This "ancient history" has probably served its purpose. Art is right: we'd do better to stick with the numbers.
73 Ray W2RS
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Agreed but we will have to change the behaviour of the professionals who still use the terminology in general.
That action may take a generation or two I guess!
73
Graham
-----Original Message----- From: Edson W. R. Pereira Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 7:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Band designators, Modes
I agree with Art and Ray. We should just use the frequency or frequency range when referring to a radio band. I have found myself at times having to check which of the several standards (isn't it nice to have so many?) an author used when referring to radio bands. It is much easier and clearer to just refer a band by the frequency.
73, Edson PY2SDR
--- - We humans have the capability to do amazing things if we work together. - Nós seres humanos temos a capacidade de fazer coisas incríveis se trabalharmos juntos.
On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 1:30 PM, RSoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB <[email protected]
wrote:
We have been using the term "Mode K" to describe 21 MHz uplink/29 MHz downlink because that is what AMSAT called it when it first came into use in 1987. Similarly, the terms "Mode A" and "Mode B" came into use in 1974 because that is what the engineers who designed AMSAT-OSCAR 7 called them. AO-7 actually has four modes: Mode C is a low-power version of Mode B, and Mode D is "transponder off." Then came Fuji-OSCAR 12 with Modes JA (analogue) and JD (digital), where "J" stood for "Japan." FCC even included the definitions of Modes A and B in the written tests of that era.
This "ancient history" has probably served its purpose. Art is right: we'd do better to stick with the numbers.
73 Ray W2RS
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We’ll just have to set a better example. Probably will take a generation to shed old habits. :-)
73…..
On 5-Jul-2016, at 04:19 PM, Graham Shirville [email protected] wrote:
Agreed but we will have to change the behaviour of the professionals who still use the terminology in general.
That action may take a generation or two I guess!
73
Graham
-----Original Message----- From: Edson W. R. Pereira Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 7:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Band designators, Modes
I agree with Art and Ray. We should just use the frequency or frequency range when referring to a radio band. I have found myself at times having to check which of the several standards (isn't it nice to have so many?) an author used when referring to radio bands. It is much easier and clearer to just refer a band by the frequency.
73, Edson PY2SDR
- We humans have the capability to do amazing things if we work together.
- Nós seres humanos temos a capacidade de fazer coisas incríveis se
trabalharmos juntos.
On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 1:30 PM, RSoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB <[email protected]
wrote:
We have been using the term "Mode K" to describe 21 MHz uplink/29 MHz downlink because that is what AMSAT called it when it first came into use in 1987. Similarly, the terms "Mode A" and "Mode B" came into use in 1974 because that is what the engineers who designed AMSAT-OSCAR 7 called them. AO-7 actually has four modes: Mode C is a low-power version of Mode B, and Mode D is "transponder off." Then came Fuji-OSCAR 12 with Modes JA (analogue) and JD (digital), where "J" stood for "Japan." FCC even included the definitions of Modes A and B in the written tests of that era.
This "ancient history" has probably served its purpose. Art is right: we'd do better to stick with the numbers.
73 Ray W2RS
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